Re: [OSM-talk] travel-time-maps

2008-01-24 Thread Nick Black
On Jan 24, 2008 6:12 PM, Tom Carden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 24/01/2008, Stephen Gower [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 01:32:47PM -0800, Tom Carden wrote:
 
Happily I can inform you that this work has recently been picked up 
again.
 
...indicates that some progress is public, (bar the press release)
at http://www.mysociety.org/2007/more-travel-maps/
 

 Indeed, thanks!  Apologies to those who are not happy using Flash 9,
 but the interactive features really did need it.

And yes, they are using OSM data!
 

 Yes :)  Nick at ZXV helped out with the projection of the mapnik layer
 to OSGB so that the mysociety overlays lined up.

Artem also helped out a lot with the OSGB projections and Mapnik - so
thanks to him too.


 Before anyone complains that there's no CC-BY-SA attribution (the
 letter of the license) please rest assured that Steve (Coast) already
 got to me and that I am updating the maps to reflect that as quickly
 as I can!



 The project is prominently credited, and all the code is open source
 (the spirit of the license).  However the lack of CC license is an
 oversight on my part, and given my early involvement in OSM I should
 have known better.

Next time... ;-)


 Tom.


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Re: [OSM-talk] travel-time-maps

2008-01-19 Thread Tom Chance
Hello,

I'm thrilled to hear that people are still working on this, I recently emailed 
Tom at mySociety to ask about it. I'm trying to find a way to use free data 
and tools including OpenStreetMap for a big community regeneration project in 
Sutton, South London, and analysis of transport and amenity accessibility is 
a big resource mapping priority!

Any more info about how far down the line the tools are, how hard it would be 
to plug in OSM data and start some analysis, etc. would be much appreciated. 
I'd love to go for some joint funding with someone like OSMF / mySociety but 
have so far had next to no response.

Kind regards,
Tom

On Thursday 17 January 2008 21:32:47 Tom Carden wrote:
 Apologies, the below message was sent to the wrong mysociety address.
 This mail is cc'd to the correct address ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 On 17/01/2008, Tom Carden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Greg,
 
  This is something I know a little bit about.  I've CC'd the
  mysociety-maps list too so they know that other people are still
  thinking about this.
 
  You can join that list here:
  https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/listinfo/maps
 
  On 17/01/2008, Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I have a proposition that I'd like to discuss for open mapping. It's
   not my idea originally but Chris Lightfoot's (the late genius of social
   computing projects). One of his projects was undertaken a while back
   for the UK's Department of Transport but seems to have languished
   unused ever since.
  
   The project can be found here:
   http://www.mysociety.org/2006/travel-time-maps/index.php#examples
 
  Happily I can inform you that this work has recently been picked up
  again.
 
  I have recently been helping mysociety with the presentation of their
  latest data (I've also had assistance from Nick at ZXV).  I'm not sure
  exactly when the updated maps will launch but suffice to say *WATCH
  THIS SPACE*.
 
   It strikes me that this kind of journey time contours map has great
   value, especially if it relies on genuine travel data from motivated
   participants. I could imagine an open source solution using a
   mobile/GPS combo being used to show real-time travel time data - where
   the user can change the time base for a running average (from 'this
   hour' to 'this year')
  
   I hope I'm not revisiting a topic that has been done to death in this
   forum - I couldn't find anything with a fairly cursory search.
 
  Not at all.
 
   Let me know what you think.
 
  I suspect for the parts of the world already well-covered by OSM, work
  on routing and travel times could begin NOW (and already has, I
  think).  But my favourite part of the mysociety work is the fact that
  it concentrates on public transport - that's a trickier proposition.
 
  Best,
 
  Tom.

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Re: [OSM-talk] travel-time-maps

2008-01-17 Thread Tom Carden
Hi Greg,

This is something I know a little bit about.  I've CC'd the
mysociety-maps list too so they know that other people are still
thinking about this.

You can join that list here:
https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/listinfo/maps

On 17/01/2008, Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a proposition that I'd like to discuss for open mapping. It's not my
 idea originally but Chris Lightfoot's (the late genius of social computing
 projects). One of his projects was undertaken a while back for the UK's
 Department of Transport but seems to have languished unused ever since.

 The project can be found here:
 http://www.mysociety.org/2006/travel-time-maps/index.php#examples


Happily I can inform you that this work has recently been picked up again.

I have recently been helping mysociety with the presentation of their
latest data (I've also had assistance from Nick at ZXV).  I'm not sure
exactly when the updated maps will launch but suffice to say *WATCH
THIS SPACE*.

 It strikes me that this kind of journey time contours map has great value,
 especially if it relies on genuine travel data from motivated participants. I
 could imagine an open source solution using a mobile/GPS combo being used to
 show real-time travel time data - where the user can change the time base for
 a running average (from 'this hour' to 'this year')

 I hope I'm not revisiting a topic that has been done to death in this forum -
 I couldn't find anything with a fairly cursory search.

Not at all.


 Let me know what you think.

I suspect for the parts of the world already well-covered by OSM, work
on routing and travel times could begin NOW (and already has, I
think).  But my favourite part of the mysociety work is the fact that
it concentrates on public transport - that's a trickier proposition.

Best,

Tom.

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Re: [OSM-talk] travel-time-maps

2008-01-17 Thread Tom Carden
Apologies, the below message was sent to the wrong mysociety address.
This mail is cc'd to the correct address ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

On 17/01/2008, Tom Carden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Greg,

 This is something I know a little bit about.  I've CC'd the
 mysociety-maps list too so they know that other people are still
 thinking about this.

 You can join that list here:
 https://secure.mysociety.org/admin/lists/mailman/listinfo/maps

 On 17/01/2008, Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have a proposition that I'd like to discuss for open mapping. It's not my
  idea originally but Chris Lightfoot's (the late genius of social computing
  projects). One of his projects was undertaken a while back for the UK's
  Department of Transport but seems to have languished unused ever since.
 
  The project can be found here:
  http://www.mysociety.org/2006/travel-time-maps/index.php#examples
 

 Happily I can inform you that this work has recently been picked up again.

 I have recently been helping mysociety with the presentation of their
 latest data (I've also had assistance from Nick at ZXV).  I'm not sure
 exactly when the updated maps will launch but suffice to say *WATCH
 THIS SPACE*.

  It strikes me that this kind of journey time contours map has great value,
  especially if it relies on genuine travel data from motivated participants. 
  I
  could imagine an open source solution using a mobile/GPS combo being used to
  show real-time travel time data - where the user can change the time base 
  for
  a running average (from 'this hour' to 'this year')
 
  I hope I'm not revisiting a topic that has been done to death in this forum 
  -
  I couldn't find anything with a fairly cursory search.

 Not at all.

 
  Let me know what you think.

 I suspect for the parts of the world already well-covered by OSM, work
 on routing and travel times could begin NOW (and already has, I
 think).  But my favourite part of the mysociety work is the fact that
 it concentrates on public transport - that's a trickier proposition.

 Best,

 Tom.


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