[OSM-talk-fr] Carto-Cité - imprimer une carte

[Cyrille37 OSM via Talk-fr]

Bonjour

Sur le wiki de Carto-Cité il y a qlqs outils référencés pour imprimer 
une carte 
https://wiki.cartocite.fr/doku.php?id=openstreetmap:introduction:imprimer_une_carte


@CartoCité: vous pourriez y ajouter le site osm.org qui avec l'outil 
"partager" permet l'export d'une zone en SVG ou PDF. Je viens de générer 
2 exemples (Indre-et-Loire et Tours Métropole) là : 
https://www.grosfichiers.com/FMYHhEMPRqF
Ainsi que le lien vers votre tuto 
https://cartocite.fr/tutoriels-openstreetmap/


Belle journée à tou·te·s
Cyrille37.


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Re: [talk-cz] Ahoj. Vypada to ze jsou tu nejake nove trasy kct na zmapovani behem dlohych zimnich veceru, kdyby mel nekdo cestu kolem. Šestnáct kilometrů. Podívejte se na nové turistické trasy jižní

[Miroslav Suchy]

Dne 01. 11. 20 v 11:43 Jakub Jelen napsal(a):
> https://brnensky.denik.cz/zpravy_region/sestnact-kilometru-podivejte-se-na-nove-turisticke-trasy-jizni-moravy-20201031.html
> 
>  

To mám prakticky za barákem. Jak mi skončí karanténa tak to projdu a nafotím 
nové rozcestníky.
Díky za úpozornění.

Mirek

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Re: [Talk-it] SENTIERI BLOCCATI DA PIANTE CADUTE

[emmexx]

On 11/3/20 8:07 AM, danbag--- via Talk-it wrote:
> O ci sono tag più adatti?

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Obstacle

ciao
maxx

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[Talk-it] SENTIERI BLOCCATI DA PIANTE CADUTE

[danbag--- via Talk-it]

Ho inserito i tag:

obstruction=yes
obstruction_description=piante cadute

In way impercorribili per tale motivo.
Ok?
O ci sono tag più adatti?

Ciao lista
Danilo(danbag)

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Re: [OSRM-talk] pont de Québec not in the routing steps of OSRM

[Daniel Patterson via OSRM-talk]

The "steps" that OSRM emits are roughly intended to be human consumable
instructions.  We often collapse "obvious" maneuvers where it'd be annoying
to receive a visual/verbal prompt.  For this reason, "steps" aren't great
objects to use for data analysis, unless you're specifically interested in
the heuristics of ideal navigation instructions.

The alternative I'd suggest would be to find a couple of OSM node IDs that
are on the way you're interested in, and use the `annotations=nodes`
parameter to return the list of nodes along the path - search that list for
your well-known-nodes and you should have confirmation that a path
traversed the geometry you care about.

daniel

On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 2:12 PM Xavier Prudent 
wrote:

> Dear OSRMers,
>
> I use OSRM to determine through which bridge a car would cross the river
> St Laurent in Quebec city (Canada).
> When running on the default OSM map, and using steps=true in the API call,
>
> curl -s
> http://127.0.0.1:4040/route/v1/driving/-71.2429112,46.7469116;-71.3315801,46.7701873?steps=true=true=full
>
> I get all steps and street names for the itinerary, except for the Pont of
> Québec. When doing the same with openTripPlanner I find its name in the
> steps sequence.
>
> Why cannot I see this bridge in the OSRM routing steps?
>
> Thank you,
>
> regards,
>
> Xavier Prudent
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Voltage warning

[Donal Hunt]

Thanks for the insight Colm.

The only comment I'll make is that "low voltage" in electrical circles in <
1000V. High voltage is anything above 1000V. Trying to align with that may
be worthwhile (probably too late).

On thing we can agree on is that there is a lot left to map!

Donal

On Mon 2 Nov 2020, 23:14 Colm Moore,  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It is difficult to determine the exact voltage on each piece of the
> electricity network without going to inspect each individual device on site
> (potentially difficult, unsafe, potentially illegal), although there are
> some visual clues in the overhead photos (size of substation, power route,
> size & type of pole, etc.). There are hundreds of thousands of transformers
> and twice as much power line as there is public roads.
>
> voltage=low, voltage:primary=low, voltage:secondary=low, etc. are
> placeholder values I created to help identify the voltages used on the
> power network.
>
>   1.  voltage=* can apply to any part of any electrical device.
>   2.  voltage:primary=* primarily applies to transformers and substations
> and is the voltage for the side the power is coming from.
>   3.  voltage:secondary=* primarily applies to transformers and
> substations and is the voltage for the side the power is going to.
>   4.  There are also voltage:tertiary=* and voltage:quaternary=* for
> locations with multiple voltages.
>
> These are the values I have been using:
>
>   1.  High = I presume the voltage to be 110,000 volts or higher but can't
> say which.
>   2.  Medium = I presume the voltage to be 38,000 volts but can't say for
> definite.
>   3.  Low = I presume the voltage to be 20,000 volts or lower but can't
> say which.
>
> The network operators and voltages used across Ireland are below.
>
> Could I ask where the error is showing? The usual debugging sites normally
> associate errors with the most recent contributor - usually me.
>
> Colm
>
> -
>
> EirGrid (Republic of Ireland and Ireland-Britain)
> 40 - high
> 22 - high
> 11 - high
>
> ESB Networks (Republic of Ireland)
> 38000 - medium
> 2 - low
> 1 - low
> 400 (often referred to as 380-415) - low
> 230 (often referred to as 220-240) - low
>
> NIE Networks (Northern Ireland)
> 40 - high
> 275000 - high
> 11 - high
> 33000 - medium
> 19000 - low
> 11000 - low
> 6600 - low
> 400 (often referred to as 380-415) - low
> 230 (often referred to as 220-240) - low
>
> Mutual Energy (Northern Ireland-Britain)
> 25
>
> Irish Rail
> 1500
>
> Luas
> 750
>
> Other Operators
> 60
> 33000
> 2
> 19000
> 1
> Various
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] OpenStreetMap Ireland projects

[Colm Moore]

Hi,

It might be possible to do something similar to the Check Autopista project 
http://k1wiosm.github.io/checkautopista/ which checks the completeness of tags 
on motorways.

Start with motorways, move on to trunk and primary roads, etc. and make sure 
that each road has at least the basic information - maxspeed (where known), 
number of lanes, type of surfaces, route ref, one-way, etc. I have the 
motorways in reasonable condition already, but Check Autopista is throwing up 
some issues that I haven't addressed.

Colm

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Today's Topics:

   1. weeklyOSM #536 2020-10-20-2020-10-26 (weeklyteam)
   2. voltage warning (Tadeusz Cantwell)
   3. Townlands.ie project (Colm Moore)
   4. Re: Townlands.ie project (Brian Hollinshead)
   5. Re: Townlands.ie project (Brian Hollinshead)
   6. OpenStreetMap Ireland projects (Donal Hunt)


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Subject: [OSM-talk-ie] weeklyOSM #536 2020-10-20-2020-10-26
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To: Discussion of OpenStreetMap in Ireland 
Subject: [OSM-talk-ie] voltage warning
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Voltage warning

[Colm Moore]

Hi,

It is difficult to determine the exact voltage on each piece of the electricity 
network without going to inspect each individual device on site (potentially 
difficult, unsafe, potentially illegal), although there are some visual clues 
in the overhead photos (size of substation, power route, size & type of pole, 
etc.). There are hundreds of thousands of transformers and twice as much power 
line as there is public roads.

voltage=low, voltage:primary=low, voltage:secondary=low, etc. are placeholder 
values I created to help identify the voltages used on the power network.

  1.  voltage=* can apply to any part of any electrical device.
  2.  voltage:primary=* primarily applies to transformers and substations and 
is the voltage for the side the power is coming from.
  3.  voltage:secondary=* primarily applies to transformers and substations and 
is the voltage for the side the power is going to.
  4.  There are also voltage:tertiary=* and voltage:quaternary=* for locations 
with multiple voltages.

These are the values I have been using:

  1.  High = I presume the voltage to be 110,000 volts or higher but can't say 
which.
  2.  Medium = I presume the voltage to be 38,000 volts but can't say for 
definite.
  3.  Low = I presume the voltage to be 20,000 volts or lower but can't say 
which.

The network operators and voltages used across Ireland are below.

Could I ask where the error is showing? The usual debugging sites normally 
associate errors with the most recent contributor - usually me.

Colm

-

EirGrid (Republic of Ireland and Ireland-Britain)
40 - high
22 - high
11 - high

ESB Networks (Republic of Ireland)
38000 - medium
2 - low
1 - low
400 (often referred to as 380-415) - low
230 (often referred to as 220-240) - low

NIE Networks (Northern Ireland)
40 - high
275000 - high
11 - high
33000 - medium
19000 - low
11000 - low
6600 - low
400 (often referred to as 380-415) - low
230 (often referred to as 220-240) - low

Mutual Energy (Northern Ireland-Britain)
25

Irish Rail
1500

Luas
750

Other Operators
60
33000
2
19000
1
Various

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[OSRM-talk] pont de Québec not in the routing steps of OSRM

[Xavier Prudent]

Dear OSRMers,

I use OSRM to determine through which bridge a car would cross the river St
Laurent in Quebec city (Canada).
When running on the default OSM map, and using steps=true in the API call,

curl -s
http://127.0.0.1:4040/route/v1/driving/-71.2429112,46.7469116;-71.3315801,46.7701873?steps=true=true=full

I get all steps and street names for the itinerary, except for the Pont of
Québec. When doing the same with openTripPlanner I find its name in the
steps sequence.

Why cannot I see this bridge in the OSRM routing steps?

Thank you,

regards,

Xavier Prudent


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [osm-fr asso] Prochain CA OSM-FR - Mardi 3 novembre 21h

[Frédéric Rodrigo]

Bonsoir,

Personne n'a ajouter de sujet à l'ordre du jour de la réunion de demain.

Il y a uniquement les sujets reportés de la dernière fois car tykayn 
n'était pas là pour les présenter.


S'il n'y a pas de sujet à l'ordre du jour on ne fait pas la réunion ?

Frédéric.



Le 01/11/2020 à 12:26, Nelson Tayou a écrit :

Re,
Yes on fera une présentation d’OSMdata a partir de 20h30 ce mardi.

Merci a vous !

On 1 Nov 2020, at 09:38, Vincent Bergeot > wrote:


Merci Frédéric,

Pour le rendez vous For/Infor (formation / information), il avait été 
décidé la dernière fois que Karl et Zimmy nous 
présententdemo.OpenStreetMap.fr 


A mardi


Le 31 octobre 2020 21:56:24 GMT+01:00, "Frédéric Rodrigo" 
mailto:fred.rodr...@gmail.com>> a écrit :


Bonjour,

Le prochain CA de l'association OSM-FR va avoir lieu mardi 3 novembre à 21h.

Vous pouvez proposez des sujets à l'ordre du jour ici :

https://annuel.framapad.org/p/ttaU5vnJL1OD_wPS1-Vg

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/France/OSM-FR/CA_2020-11-03



Comme toujours le CA est ouvert à tous le monde.

Des sujets ne nécessitant pas d'être discuté en synchrone peut aussi
être traité indépendamment des séancés du CA.



À 20h30, avant le CA, peut avoir lieu une session de présentation. Si un
sujet est prévu faite signe.



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[OSM-talk-ie] Looking for ideas.

[Angel Cervera Claudio]

Hi all.
Recently I released a Spark connector (Spark 2, 3 and Scala 2.11 and 2.12,
Python, etc.) based in my opensource library for osm pbf parsing. The
performance is really good.

I'm writing because I want to write a post or application to extract or
analize OSM data, and I don't know what I can implement.
I want to take advance of the post and do something helpful for the
community.

Any idea?

BTW. The link to the project: https://github.com/simplexspatial/osm4scala
Feel free to share.

Regards.



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Re: [Talk-it] taginfo history

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

Am Mo., 2. Nov. 2020 um 16:49 Uhr schrieb liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT
eu :

>
> Grazie anche da parte mia a Martin Raifer per il lavoro e a te per la
> segnalazione.



Scusate, che sono stato poco chiaro, in realtà il lavoro presentato sopra
(taginfo history) è di Jochen Topf. Martin Raifer fornisce da anni un
servizio simile (tag history), che usavo tanto, e ho usato l'occasione
dell'uscita del servizio sui server della fondazione per ringraziarlo
un'altra volta per il suo di lavoro, molto utile a mio avviso per capire
l'andamento di un tag.

Ciao
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Re: [Talk-it] taginfo history

[liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu]

Il 02/11/20 10:55, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto:
> Ho appena saputo che taginfo è stato migliorato e ora fornisce anche
> statistiche sull'andamento del utilizzo dei tags. Questo è possibile perché
> ora legge anche i full history planet files.
> 
> Lo storico è disponibile per le chiavi, e alcuni tags (200.000 chiavi e
> 80.000 tags).
> Trovate un nuovo tab "cronologia" su taginfo, per esempio
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/amenity=monastery#chronology
> 
> Ciao
> Martin
> 
> PS: Grazie anche a Martin Raifer, che ha offerto per tanti anni OSM tag
> history, servizio simile e molto utile e ben fatto, ma purtroppo spesso non
> aggiornato con gli ultimi dati (per esempio per questo tag, i dati sono del
> 2018):
> https://taghistory.raifer.tech/#***/amenity/monastery
> 

Grazie anche da parte mia a Martin Raifer per il lavoro e a te per la
segnalazione.

Vedo male o anche la scheda progetti è nuova?


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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] voltage warning

[Donal Hunt]

The voltage. Get out your volt meter and verify what the voltage is!


I don't know enough about the transformers but it looks like the ESB use
33KVA and 15KVA transformers to step down from 20KV or 10KV to 230V.
Reference is
https://www.esbnetworks.ie/docs/default-source/publications/assessment-of-the-scope-for-higher-penetrations-of-distributed-generation-on-the-low-volage-distribution-network.pdf

From what I've seen the inbound / outbound voltages aren't specified but
you may be able to deduce them. :)
I have some photos if you need them.

Donal


On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 5:01 PM Tadeusz Cantwell  wrote:

> I'm getting an error for voltage=low for a transformer. Had a look at the
> wiki but not sure what should to use instead.
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:voltage:secondary
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Re: [Talk-at] Moderation at Webforum

[Johann Haag]

Am Mo., 2. Nov. 2020 um 08:25 Uhr schrieb Stefan Tauner via Talk-at <
talk-at@openstreetmap.org>:

> On Mon, 2 Nov 2020 07:07:12 +0100
> Johann Haag  wrote:
>
> > unabhängig davon wie man zum Inhalt einzelner Webforumsbeiträge, oder
> Usern
> > steht. Die Moderation des at Webforums sollte neu überdacht werden.
> >
> > Der aktuelle Moderator Michael Reichert ist sicher bemüht, aber auf zu
> > vielen Baustellen in OpenStreetMap unterwegs.
>
> Das sollte natürlich dort besprochen werden und nicht hier.
>

Hallo Stefan,
danke für diesen konstruktiven Vorschlag, ich werde Michael Reichert also
eine Mail senden, ob er dieses Thema im Webforum eröffnen kann.
Grüße Johann


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[OSM-talk-nl] 5 Nov 2020 18:30-20:00 - De Grote Geo Show - MAPTIME SPECIAL

[Just van den Broecke]

Wellicht ten overvloede:

Donderdag 5 nov 18:30, 12e aflevering DGGS, MAPTIME SPECIAL - door Niene 
Boeijen - zie programma en stream-links op:


https://tv.osgeo.nl/episode/episode-0012

Let op: eenmalig start 18:30 !

Uw Samensteller & Host & Kompas: Niene Boeijen. Rubrieken:

Special guests & critical panel: Topi Tjukanov & Naomi Bueno de Mesquita

- Opening: Geo-events, #30DayMapChallenge and other remarkable
maps on the web - Niene Boeijen
- GIN Cartografie wedstrijd 2020- Edward MacGillavry
- Xenocartography, neogeography & colorful pixels - Topi Tjukanov
Live making of #30MapChallenge- Day 5: Blue - By Topi Tjukanov
- Critical Cartography a conversation with Naomi Bueno de Mesquita
Weg Wandelen- Naomi Bueno de Mesquita
- De Grote Geo Quiz - Map Quiz - door Marielle Geers
- De Grote Mapping Mondkapjes Modeshow! Stuur jouw (kaart
gerelateerde) mondkapjes foto in voor de GMMM!
- De Zeepkist - Kom in de show! Open Vloer. Wie wil en durft! Wat voor
mooie kaarten maak jij?
- Column Erik, “Nico” Meerburg - Reageert live op uitzending!

Met groet,

Just

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[OSM-talk-ie] OpenStreetMap Ireland projects

[Donal Hunt]

Hi Everyone,

I have a desire to tidy up the Ireland
 wiki page a little in the
coming weeks but need some input from y'all/...

Current projects are:

   - osmirl_buildings project: map as many of the 5.5m buildings in Ireland.

Past projects are:

   - Clonmel Heritage Week 2020 project
   - Townlands.ie
   - others? for sure. let's get them listed...

Other "projects" listed on the page:

   - Places
   - Infrastructure
   - Irish Language (Gaeilge)
   - Gaelic games
   - Background Imagery
   - Imports

I would like to suggest that going forward, each project has a clear goal,
1-2 identified leaders and an easy way for others to contribute / join the
effort. Even pet projects are welcome to be listed as long as they meet the
above criteria. Small projects are better than long-lived projects that
keep evolving. It should be acceptable to have lots of small projects based
around a theme (e.g. ensure all towns have both english and irish names
listed; next project is "ensure all rivers have both irish and english
names", etc). Some of the "other" projects above should probably be moved
to a reference section unless there is high-priority mapping required for
some of the elements.

If you have any input, please add to the discussion here

(talk
page for the Ireland wiki page).
Thanks!

Donal
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[talk-ph] Restarting discussion on road classifications

[Jherome Miguel]

In light of some suspicious edits by a "tongkho" who have been upgrading
road classes without providing reasons (usually in edits with the comment
"Modified"), I think we should continue discussions on classifying PH roads
once again and come up with a consensus.

Again, here is my proposed definitions of each road class, since the last
discussions plus my additional suggestions:

-Motorway: expressway
-Trunk: highways between cities with population of 100,000+, usually 1 to
2-digit national roads; major roads resembling expressways (with U-turns,
overpasses/underpasses at major junctions, intersection closures, or
service roads for business/residential/local access)
-Primary: highways between small cities and large towns, usually 3-digit
national roads; major arteries
-Secondary: highways between smaller towns, usually being unnumbered
national roads and provincial roads; minor arteries
-Tertiary: roads between barangays; collector roads
-Unclassified: minor non-residential local roads
-Residential: residential streets
-Service: driveways, drive-thru lanes, parking lot roads, eskinitas/alleys/
residential streets with width <2.5 m.
-Footway: walkways, sidewalks, "eskinita" not passable to cars or tricycles
-Path: most unpaved trails (hiking trails, mixed-use trails in rural areas)

In this proposal, living_street is to be deprecated. It was adapted in
2015, but contentions have been raised on its use in developing-world
contexts.

In the 2015 scheme, trunk was intended to be used on 1 to 2-dight national
roads (i.e. the North-South Backbone or Rte 1 (N1), East-West Laterals, and
Other Roads of Strategic Importance) but some mappers use it for roads that
resemble expressways to some degree (e.g. Commonwealth Ave, C5, CSCR) or
any roads seen as major highways popularly even where it should be tagged
lower. The alternative definition of "expressway-like road" is included in
the proposal, but may or may not be included in the final definition.

--TagaSanPedroAko
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[Talk-it] Fwd: [OSM-talk] New native/web OSM renderer based on A/B Street

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

Vi segnalo questo progetto, un renderer vettoriale di dati OSM, focalizzato
al momento sugli incroci e quantità di lanes.
http://abstreet.s3-website.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/osm_demo/

Ciao
Martin

-- Forwarded message -
Von: Dustin Carlino 
Date: Mo., 2. Nov. 2020 um 00:59 Uhr
Subject: [OSM-talk] New native/web OSM renderer based on A/B Street
To: 


Hi,

Demo: http://abstreet.s3-website.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/osm_demo/
Connect 2020 talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUN5GWfb4Qo

I've been working on https://abstreet.org, a traffic simulation game built
from OSM data, designed for cycling and public transit advocacy. A/B Street
renders individual lanes, infers geometry for intersections, models turn
lanes and restrictions, and infers lots of detail for traffic signal timing
and parking lot capacity. Recently I split out an OSM viewer just to show
off these details, letting you do quick visual Q/A on things like lane
tagging. The viewer runs on web (via WebAssembly and WebGL) and natively
(Mac, Windows, and Linux via OpenGL). As a disclaimer, changing maps is
much clunkier on the web than native, but I'm working on it.

One key difference from most slippy maps is that this viewer downloads a
single file per region (scoped right now to the core of a city, but the
boundary is configurable). You can't pan over to anywhere in the world, but
once you've loaded a map, everything should be extremely fast -- moving
around, zooming, querying tags on objects. I've imported a few places from
bbike, and I can add or adjust the boundary of anywhere you like. See
https://dabreegster.github.io/abstreet/howto/new_city.html or reply here
with a link to a geojson.io file.

I have a few asks of y'all:

1) What should this viewer do to add value to the community? I'm not
looking into making a general purpose renderer, more like an array of small
renderers specialized for purposes like Q/A on lanes, exploring POIs, etc.
2) Do you have any other use cases or ideas how to use things like the road
geometry?
3) Are you interested in developing anything from this? If so, I'd like to
work with you to design an appropriate API for consuming the internal map
format.
4) If you're interested in the core mission of A/B Street, I'd love
collaborators for things like
https://github.com/dabreegster/abstreet/issues/372 (modeling public transit
better).

Thanks!
-Dustin
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[Talk-it] taginfo history

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

Ho appena saputo che taginfo è stato migliorato e ora fornisce anche
statistiche sull'andamento del utilizzo dei tags. Questo è possibile perché
ora legge anche i full history planet files.

Lo storico è disponibile per le chiavi, e alcuni tags (200.000 chiavi e
80.000 tags).
Trovate un nuovo tab "cronologia" su taginfo, per esempio
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/amenity=monastery#chronology

Ciao
Martin

PS: Grazie anche a Martin Raifer, che ha offerto per tanti anni OSM tag
history, servizio simile e molto utile e ben fatto, ma purtroppo spesso non
aggiornato con gli ultimi dati (per esempio per questo tag, i dati sono del
2018):
https://taghistory.raifer.tech/#***/amenity/monastery
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Re: [Talk-GB] Multi-lingual tagging in Wales

[Jez Nicholson]

I'm open to alternatives for dispute regulation. I fear that Wales *is* a
location where feelings run high.

See also https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_exonyms including the
Welsh-English argument in the Talk.

On Sat, 31 Oct 2020, 19:52 Andy Townsend,  wrote:

> On 31/10/2020 18:19, Jez Nicholson wrote:
>
> I like it.
>
> + "in the event of dispute... the default language is English."?
> .although I'm not sure how to define dispute'.
>
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2020, 11:07 Ben Proctor,  wrote:
>
> (snipped)
>
> "In the event of a dispute please discuss among a larger group and try and
> find consensus" might be better than being seen to "hard-code" a preference
> for one language or another.
>
> With a Data Working Group hat on I've seen language disputes in various
> places, and it's often made worse by someone "overinterpreting" something
> in a wiki page or elsewhere that was perfectly well-meaning but not
> designed to cover the current situation at all.   If you wanted to refer to
> the DWG directly "in the event of a dispute" that wouldn't be a problem,
> since I'd expect that the first thing that we'd try and do is to get those
> involved to talk things through in a wider forum, possibly this list or
> something more local if appropriate.
> Best Regards,
>
> Andy
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Townlands.ie project

[Brian Hollinshead]

Hi Colm,

Seeing your list of Dublin Eds dated 1901, reminded me that I had most
likely added the bulk of the Dublin Eds and had used the 1901 census index.
Overpass shows 15 dated 1901. I suspect all that I added were 1901 even if
not so tagged.

To have the Dublin EDs conform to the rest of the country please let me
know what date the other counties are and confirm what source I should now
use.

I can then quietly keep any that match and re-date them or remove those
that don’t and replace them. The sooner the better.

Thanks

On Sun, 1 Nov 2020 at 21:00, Colm Moore  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> While this project is substantially complete, a few things arise. None of
> my comments below are criticism of any of the people who have contributed.
>
> Some administrative areas have been broken and /or deleted. See examples
> below. If I find missing administrative areas could someone volunteer to
> add them?
>
> The diagnostic page https://www.townlands.ie/progress/ is throwing up
> lots of issues, e.g. it looks for County Derry but the name in OSM is
> County Londonderry.
>
> Some of the text on the Townlands.ie website is out of date, e.g. it
> refers to the project as being current.
>
> The menu at the bottom doesn't seem to include all the main pages, e.g.
> https://www.townlands.ie/progress/
>
> Colm
>
>
>
>
> ---
>
>
> Dublin City
> Mansion House B ED
> Merchants Quay F ED
> Rathmines East C ED
>
> Fingal
> Barberstown townland (between Blancharstown and Lucan).
> Northwest corner EDs - Balscadden, Clonmethan, Garristown, Hollywood -
> only the 1901 versions exist.
> Overlap between Kilsallaghan ED and The Ward ED.
> Off-shore islands not in any townland.
>
> Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown
> Off-shore islands not in any townland.
>
> South Dublin
> No apparent problems.
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