What is Osmand ?
In Basecamp or using garmin gps (e-trex), Maillen can NOT be found, even
without street.
You will find Assesse and you have to know that Maillen belongs to Assesse.
“Strépy-Braquegnies is not a boundary but a Residential Area (a landuse). You
can't use one in an OSM search. »
Strépy-Braquegnies is a city that has its own postal code (7110) and is totally
different from La Louvière having another postal code (7100)
What if there is another street with the same name exists in 7100 La Louvière?
Nothing prevents it.
If you are walking or cycling, there is 8 Km between Strépy-Braquegnies and La
Louvière. That’s a lot. If your map can’t figure out this, paper maps might be
better!
Bien à vous,
Alain Bourgeois
+32 496 51 85 75
http://www.kineuro.com/ http://www.kineuro.com
From: André Pirard [mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com]
Sent: lundi 23 février 2015 01:48
To: OpenStreetMap Belgium
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-be] city names - bug in OFM?
On 2015-02-22 23:13, Alain Bourgeois wrote :
Maillen and Assesse are not the only bug.
With Osmand, I find Maillen e.g. Place du Bâti and OSM finds Place du Bâti
Maillen but that's near Maillen which is a village, that result is in Assesse
which is a city. OSM also finds Place du Bâti Assesse, of course.
Osmand also finds Assesse if you tap villages (OSM calls it a city, not even
a town, ahem).
Kortessem and Wellen are in Osmand all-right, but, again, you have to tap on
villages when the list gets short.
We found other ones (event bigger).
e.g. try to find Rue Jean-Baptiste Monoyer in 7110 Strépy-Braquegnies. You will
not find it.
To locate it you have to search on … Rue JB Monoyer, in 7100 La Louvière.
In order to find Rue Jean-Baptiste Monoyer it should be called Rue
Jean-Baptiste Monoyer and not Rue JB Monoyer.
I have corrected that bug.
Strépy-Braquegnies is not a boundary but a Residential Area (a landuse). You
can't use one in an OSM search.
You could if it were a (non-administrative) boundary, and even not, found in a
subarea and Nominatim supported that, but that's another discussion.
There is no need to include Jean-Baptiste in the query.
Your street is located (nested) in Pont Balasse, La Louvière, Soignies,
Hainaut, Wallonia, 7100;7110, Belgium
So, any of these queries returns your answer: Monoyer Pont Balasse, Monoyer
La Louvière, Monoyer Soignies, Monoyer Hainaut, Monoyer Wallonia,
Monoyer Belgium or Monoyer.
I'm not sure what the post code is or can be used for unless you are a letter.
Except for JB, I don't find a bug, less other ones, less event bigger.
André.
I thought it was due to postal code, but sometimes streets are associated to
wrong postal code!
Bien à vous,
Alain Bourgeois
+32 496 51 85 75
http://www.kineuro.com/ http://www.kineuro.com
From: Erik Beerten [mailto:ebe...@gmail.com]
Sent: jeudi 25 décembre 2014 19:25
To: OpenStreetMap Belgium
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-be] city names - bug in OFM?
The problem with the missing municipalities also exists in OSMAND where some as
Kortessem and Wellen are not listed although they are in OSM.
A solution for tagging boundaries can be checking for natural boundaries =
rivers, in different sources first. In Flanders those rivers as natural
boundaries are mostly good visible on the AGIV air imagery.
But what about a similar usable tool for Wallonie. I didn't hear more about how
to use a similar source as AGIV for Wallonie in JOSM (?).
Regards,
Erik
Op 23-12-14 om 18:14 schreef Marc Gemis:
As you could see from the link in my previous post, Mallien is mapped as a
node.
Ligfietser wrote:
The OFM map looks at the administrative boundaries on OSM to assign the
streets to a place:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Boundaries#Namur
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wiki … ries#Namur
First it looks in level 8 (municipality of Assese) and if available, it looks
deeper at a section (sub municipality) admin_level=9. I dont know if this is
the case in Maillen.
If there exists such a section of level 9, it must be entered in OSM. If there
is no section, streets could be tagged with
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:is_in is_in
If those sections are not specified, the map cannot find a street in Maillen so
you must either enter Assesse or try another OSM map (no guarantee it work
either) or a commercial map.
So in order to make OFM work, we need the boundaries for Mallien as a relation.
We do not have them in OSM at this moment.
Those borders are hard to get. I don't know the situation for this in Wallonia.
In Flanders we have a lot of admin-level 9 boundaries (deelgemeenten), but even
there the list is not complete. Maybe Julien Fastré or André know more about
this.
In general, we have to base ourselves on out-of-date maps for the borders. We
are not allowed to copy them from Google or other institutions that ask a lot
of money for that data
