Re: [talk-au] Oodnadatta Track

2009-07-12 Thread Gordon Smith
Hi Russell,

Yes, the track itself has been done.  The southern half, Marree to the
Coober Pedy turnoff had been done a little while ago; I finished the
northern half in June.  It's the road to the west of Lake Eyre:

  http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-28.31&lon=136.21&zoom=8&layers=0B00FTF

There are plenty other roads nearby though; I planned to do the Painted
Desert road, for exmaple, but ran out of time.

The track to the east of Lake Eyre is the Birdsville Track, then east again
is the Strzelecki Track.

There's no NextG access (though when I did the Strzelecki Track I was
surprised to find that NextG is now available at Moomba).

Happy travelling.


Gordon


On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Russell Lang wrote:

> It looks like the Oodnadatta Track hasn't been drawn yet.  I will be
> driving
> along this in September, and visiting a few of the national parks.  I can
> get
> access to an etrex legend GPS.  I'll be taking a Windows netbook with me.
> Is there someone who wants to work with me, to take the GPS traces and
> upload them?  Depending on internet access (Telstra NextG), I might be
> able to upload some information while still in the field.
>
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Re: [talk-au] Orchards

2009-07-12 Thread John Smith

--- On Sun, 12/7/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au  wrote:

> The NSW Govt maps (currently produced by the Dept of Lands)
> only show orchard, plantation or vinyard as anything
> different from the surrounding land. Grazing farmland
> isn't shown as anything special, ie it's just
> 'land'.

Ahhh ok, I thought you meant going off local knowledge, although if you found a 
nice stock and station agent they might be able to fill in the specifics for 
you.


  

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[talk-au] Oodnadatta Track

2009-07-12 Thread Russell Lang
It looks like the Oodnadatta Track hasn't been drawn yet.  I will be driving 
along this in September, and visiting a few of the national parks.  I can get 
access to an etrex legend GPS.  I'll be taking a Windows netbook with me.  
Is there someone who wants to work with me, to take the GPS traces and 
upload them?  Depending on internet access (Telstra NextG), I might be 
able to upload some information while still in the field.


Russell Lang   gsv...@ghostgum.com.au
Ghostgum Software Pty Ltd  http://www.ghostgum.com.au/


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Re: [talk-au] Orchards

2009-07-12 Thread Liz
On Sun, 12 Jul 2009, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote:
> I've read through the discussion about the landuse=vinyard tag
> (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Vineyard) and the
> general consensus seems to be that landuse=farm, produce=blah is the best
> approach.
>
> Anyway, just opening this up for debate in the hope that an Australian
> convention can be decided on.

This is one of those things that makes the difference between the cheap maps 
and the expensive ones. It certainly adds to the map, but living in an 
intensively farmed area I find it a bit frightening that I would have to mark 
vineyards / orchards / etc

Landuse is the tag which gets rendered as the nice symbols or colours on the 
map.






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Re: [talk-au] Adopt-an-area

2009-07-12 Thread Liz
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009, Greg Harper wrote:
> Fiji is my adopted country. I traced a fair bit of the roads to hopefully
> inspire a local to start naming streets. There is finally at least one
> active mapper there armed with a GPS and uploading GPX files and naming
> streets, with another guy naming everything in Suva. I have been mainly
> mentoring the mapper to assit with getting the edits right.
>
> Won't be sending any equipment, but are happy to assist in this way.

Sounds great - mentoring is very worthwhile.


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Re: [talk-au] Adopt-an-area

2009-07-12 Thread Greg Harper
Fiji is my adopted country. I traced a fair bit of the roads to hopefully
inspire a local to start naming streets. There is finally at least one
active mapper there armed with a GPS and uploading GPX files and naming
streets, with another guy naming everything in Suva. I have been mainly
mentoring the mapper to assit with getting the edits right.

Won't be sending any equipment, but are happy to assist in this way.


2009/7/12 John Smith 

>
> --- On Sun, 12/7/09, Liz  wrote:
>
> > I'm making a suggestion for those who are not poor
> > (students can ignore this)
> > that we could pick developing countries with mappers on the
> > ground and provide
> > some assistance - advice on the map, help with data loggers
> > and any other sort
> > of help.
>
> While this is very laudable, when ever I start pondering about this I keep
> coming back to how under mapped Australia is.
>
> It's quite frustrating, a lot of those countries have people willing and
> able, but lack the technology to do something about it, and we lack in
> people that are willing and able.
>
>
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Re: [talk-au] Orchards

2009-07-12 Thread John Smith

--- On Sun, 12/7/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au  wrote:

> I've read through the discussion about the
> landuse=vinyard tag
> (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Vineyard)
> and the general consensus seems to be that landuse=farm,
> produce=blah is the best approach.

No idea on the best approach, although that seems reasonable, and instead of 
grazing you could have produce=beef|sheep|goat|dairy.

Although how finely do you want to do this, for example near Moree they grow a 
lot of cotton, but they also have a pecan nut farm, would it be produce nut or 
pecan_nut?


  

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[talk-au] Orchards

2009-07-12 Thread b . schulz . 10
Greetings List,

In the North Coast region there are a lot of fruit/nut plantations and I think 
it would be great to be able to differentiate between farmland which is used to 
graze cattle and farmland which is mostly orchards or sugar cane.

I've read through the discussion about the landuse=vinyard tag 
(http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Vineyard) and the general 
consensus seems to be that landuse=farm, produce=blah is the best approach.

Anyway, just opening this up for debate in the hope that an Australian 
convention can be decided on.

Brent

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[talk-au] validator plugin updates

2009-07-12 Thread John Smith

Pretty much all my patches have been incorporated into the current build, I 
have come across some extra things that need to be added to the ignore list, 
such as:

cuisine=coffee_shop
cuisine=fish_and_chips
cuisine=pie

Anyone else know of any that should also be listed showing up as warnings?


  

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Re: [talk-au] Adopt-an-area

2009-07-12 Thread John Smith

--- On Sun, 12/7/09, Liz  wrote:

> I'm making a suggestion for those who are not poor
> (students can ignore this) 
> that we could pick developing countries with mappers on the
> ground and provide 
> some assistance - advice on the map, help with data loggers
> and any other sort 
> of help.

While this is very laudable, when ever I start pondering about this I keep 
coming back to how under mapped Australia is.

It's quite frustrating, a lot of those countries have people willing and able, 
but lack the technology to do something about it, and we lack in people that 
are willing and able.




  

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[talk-au] Adopt-an-area

2009-07-12 Thread Liz

While most of OSM contributors are students and poor, some OSM contributors, 
especially here, are not...

I'm making a suggestion for those who are not poor (students can ignore this) 
that we could pick developing countries with mappers on the ground and provide 
some assistance - advice on the map, help with data loggers and any other sort 
of help.

I found one group had one GPS enabled phone between them and were running a 
competition on "how many edits" to see who got the GPS next. That group has 
accepted my offer of a data logger and one of the solar powered i-Blue PS-757 
units will go over there - not a large cost to me but i think it will be a 
bonus to them.

I know there is a complex UK administered gps loans system, and I could have 
donated to that, but I'd rather adopt-an-area in a more personal way.

Liz 

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