Re: [talk-au] How to tag a non-existent road

2009-10-15 Thread John Smith
I wrote a diary entry about this:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/JohnSmith/diary/8283#comments

In one of the comments someone suggested:

highway=nonexistent

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Re: [talk-au] navit files

2009-10-15 Thread Sam Couter
Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:55 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  I wonder if it's possible to duplicate the object to break it up into
  2 objects instead of one, and strip appropriate tags from the
  respective objects.
 
 
 Yep, that's the 'correct' solution that I am assuming, without having
 actually delved
 in to the code at the moment.

The solution outlined by cp15 (see Liz's earlier message) is to modify
attr_longest_match to return more than just one match when appropriate.

The hard part will be deciding how to determine when more matches should
be returned and what those matches should be. Returning too many matches
will greatly increase the size of the Navit map file, which is obviously
undesirable.
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[talk-au] Routable Garmin Maps for NSW

2009-10-15 Thread Nick Hocking
A while back I could download the zip file for NSW from osmaustralia.org,
unzip it rename the img file to gmapsupp.img,
copy it onto the Garmin Nuvi and I would have routable osm maps on the
Garmin,

Recently when I do this the maps are not routable at all and when you try to
set a route, it just sets off cross country

Am I doing somnething wrong? Do the overview and TDB files come into it
somehow?
And still, poi searching is fine but street names are not.


PS - is navit useful yet  (maybe with some decent voice commands).

I'll have to check out Gosmore as well to see if it has improved voice
commands.

Cheers
Nick
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Re: [talk-au] Routable Garmin Maps for NSW

2009-10-15 Thread Liz
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Nick Hocking wrote:
 PS - is navit useful yet  (maybe with some decent voice commands).
navit has funny long distance routing.
when we have the osm2navit sorted out - our trouble may be solved with the 
newest svn version I'll start talking with them about our routing problems.

it may be related to roads not having a max speed specified, for example, and 
I need to understand more about the routing algorithms before we can sort out 
why one can get sent hundreds of extra kms.

Liz


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Re: [talk-au] Routable Garmin Maps for NSW

2009-10-15 Thread John Henderson
Nick Hocking wrote:
 A while back I could download the zip file for NSW from osmaustralia.org 
 http://osmaustralia.org, unzip it rename the img file to gmapsupp.img,
 copy it onto the Garmin Nuvi and I would have routable osm maps on the 
 Garmin,
  
 Recently when I do this the maps are not routable at all and when you 
 try to set a route, it just sets off cross country

What size is your NSW file?  Is it the 18.16MB (or thereabouts) file 
from  http://osmaustralia.org/garminroute.php

The non-routable files are smaller.

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Re: [talk-au] navit files

2009-10-15 Thread Sam Couter
Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.9378lon=138.6228zoom=13layers=B000FTF
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.2954lon=138.9733zoom=12layers=B000FTF

Using the latest SVN version of osm2navit, these two and the one near
Robertson NSW seem to turn out right. They're routable roads anyway, I
don't know how admin boundaries affect Navit.
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Re: [talk-au] Routable Garmin Maps

2009-10-15 Thread Nick Hocking
Thanks John, Excellent - it now works.

You were right,  Everytime I downloaded the current zip file, I ended up
with a 13.6MB zip file and subsequently a 14MB img file.
I've now saved it to a completely different locations and now I have a
18.5MB zip file and a subsequent 24.7 MB img file that is fully routable.

Thanks,   I still don't know what I was doing wrong but I can now show this
to some people at work who are showing a lot of interest, in openstreepmap,
hence my  other questions about navit and gosmore.

They were also very interested in whether we had speed limits on all the
roads.

BTW, I like your mapping work around the ACT area.   When Liz mentioned that
there were some new divisions near Yass, I thought,... how did I miss them,
and planned to visit them the following Saturday, but you got there first.
Well Done.

There are still some roads  between the highway and Yass valley way to be
mapped but I only dive dirt roads these days just prior to a service of my
car so that they can replace all the air filters etc.

Cheers
Nick
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Re: [talk-au] Routable Garmin Maps

2009-10-15 Thread Nick Hocking
Ok - I've  worked out my problem.

I was still using the original link which now points to the non routable img
files.

I've now adjusted my bookmarks to point to the rouitable ones.
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Re: [talk-au] Routable Garmin Maps

2009-10-15 Thread John Henderson
Nick Hocking wrote:

 Thanks,   I still don't know what I was doing wrong but I can now show 
 this to some people at work who are showing a lot of interest, in 
 openstreepmap, hence my  other questions about navit and gosmore.

Using routable maps to suggest routes across town is a great way of 
finding things that need to be fixed.

 They were also very interested in whether we had speed limits on all the 
 roads.

There's very little of that in my neck of the woods.  And few multi-lane 
divided road sections have a lane count specified.  I've read that the 
lanes=n tag on these can influence routing.

 There are still some roads  between the highway and Yass valley way to 
 be mapped but I only dive dirt roads these days just prior to a service 
 of my car so that they can replace all the air filters etc.

There's a lot to be done, all over the place.  I'm retired, and have an 
older friend who likes to have a weekly drive from Canberra into the 
country.  We take his SUV, and he appreciates making a positive 
contribution by seeking out and mapping a couple of new roads each trip.

He has a Garmin GPS in his car, and finds the OSM maps I provide him 
much more accurate than the official Garmin/Sensis maps.  These are 
often out by hundreds of metres on dirt roads, as well as being out-of-date.

Sometimes I go back alone to do the more tedious fill in of roads 
which are residential, or don't in the direction we want.

John

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