Re: [talk-au] answers to the difficult questions
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010, John Smith wrote: I have seen a lot of effulent dump points for caravans that are on their own, the other types of waste are usually handled by a recycling centre, and tagging what types of waste those centres will handle is probably useful as well: http://www.moretonbay.qld.gov.au/living.aspx?id=846 In my opinion it would be a bit tidier without the waste tag, and have extra amenity tag options. Yes and look at how many amenity tags there are, and growing, I think a little grouping wouldn't hurt things. This week's one in Hay is outside Hay Recycling Centre It's all recycled, but I wouldn't want to be taking any greywater for disposal to any Recycling Centre. I believe its actually dumped into the town sewerage system which in the Murrumbidgee means it is all going to be recycled into drinking water for Adelaide after we've used it 10 more times. I presume that the system is mainly required by tourists - and while it is an amenity like a toilet block it does have a restricted clientele. come on guys - suggestions for Mens Shed required too ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] answers to the difficult questions
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:32:42 +1100 Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: I believe its actually dumped into the town sewerage system which in the Murrumbidgee means it is all going to be recycled into drinking water for Adelaide after we've used it 10 more times. And will probably improve the quality of the water here anyway ;) -- =b ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] answers to the difficult questions
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010, Darrin Smith wrote: On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:32:42 +1100 Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: I believe its actually dumped into the town sewerage system which in the Murrumbidgee means it is all going to be recycled into drinking water for Adelaide after we've used it 10 more times. And will probably improve the quality of the water here anyway ;) the main problem is that we get Canberra's p*** in the water first before we even get it ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] answers to the difficult questions
On 17 February 2010 18:32, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: come on guys - suggestions for Mens Shed required too amenity=mens_shed operator=Rotary ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] answers to the difficult questions
* And will probably improve the quality of the water here anyway ;) ** *the main problem is that we get Canberra's p*** in the water first before we even get it Oh, ohh, I think I see where this one is going... Now the Canberra mappers are going to get all defensive and blame the upstream Queanbeyanites for all the ahh - pollutants. Actually, it is interesting to see (via the river reports) where all the recent flood waters are being secreted away and how much is actually getting to S.Aus. A couple more cyclones and maybe Lake Alexandrina maybe get refilled. PS - trivia, I just found out that Lake Alexandrina is actually named after Queen Victoria. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] answers to the difficult questions
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010, Nick Hocking wrote: Actually, it is interesting to see (via the river reports) where all the recent flood waters are being secreted away and how much is actually getting to S.Aus. A couple more cyclones and maybe Lake Alexandrina maybe get refilled. so, let's whinge about the other end of the system. In the late 20s the grand plan to make the Murray permanently navigable to Goolwa was hatched. At Goolwa they would tranship to ocean going vessels. So they cut off two coastal lakes from the sea with the barrages. By the time the barrages were completed the river trade had died and the railways had taken over. So now there are two large coastal lakes with no access to the sea, and demands to provide large quantities of water which is simply evaporated from them. Some farmers got irrigation licences to use this water. I'm in favour of the weir at Wellington to keep the sea out of Adelaide's water supply, a pipe to supply the lake side irrigators and letting the sea into the lakes so that they are brackish as they were 80-90 years ago. The recent flood waters are actually being absorbed by the Darling river, filling its own wetlands and providing some water for irrigation - only a small increase in allocation given to some NW Slopes farmers so far. 10 years without rain leaves the country very parched, so let Penny Wrong know we're not withholding water, we just ain't got any. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] answers to difficult questions
So they cut off two coastal lakes from the sea with the barrages. Actually, I agree, If, historically Lake Alexexandrina was periodically flooded by sea water then shouldn;t that situation be reverted to. If S.Aust needs more fresh water then it should be just more impetus to develop renewable sources of energy to create it, e.g solar wind and better use of nuclear. PS - having being raised in the Adelaide hills, we did have our own rain water tanks but the Murray water tasted quite interesting, so long as you didn't look at it while you drank it. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] answers to difficult questions
On 17 February 2010 21:02, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: If S.Aust needs more fresh water then it should be just more impetus to develop renewable sources of energy to create it, e.g solar wind and better use of nuclear. There is always a down side to most renewables. Solar/wind is too expensive (per watt) and not dependable enough to be used as base load, regardless of any claims by snake oil sales men. While we probably have the land needed for hydro, we lack the water. For base load there is very few options that will provide cheap/reliable power needed, since it will be almost impossible to get people to have peak demands during people generation. So that just leaves coal or nuclear, there is a very safe nuclear option, although they have yet to get the science right to make a borium reactor work, alternatively there is some fairly safe fission options as well, the only major nuclear accident was due to Russian engineering, they should have gotten the Germans to build it and it wouldn't have happened. Oh and if you don't want kids, volunteer to be on a Russian nuclear submarine :) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] answers to difficult questions
For base load there is very few options that will provide cheap/reliable power needed Yes indeed... all arguments over drinking water supply,etc always come back to energy supply. If we can't find a technical solution to provide the energy needs for the projected population in 50 years, then we must engineer the population numbers to be compatible with the maximum energy availability within this timeframe. Now - is there a need to map energy resources into OSM,Bungendore, has a reasonablt impressive wind farm going round and round at the moment. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] answers to difficult questions
On 17 February 2010 21:50, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: If we can't find a technical solution to provide the energy needs for the projected population in 50 years, then we must engineer the population numbers to be compatible with the maximum energy availability within this timeframe. kWhr is the new currency... Now - is there a need to map energy resources into OSM,Bungendore, has a reasonablt impressive wind farm going round and round at the moment. You can map individual wind mills, and Liz has been mapping uranium mines/facilities... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] answers to difficult questions
Nick Hocking wrote: Now - is there a need to map energy resources into OSM,Bungendore, has a reasonablt impressive wind farm going round and round at the moment. Well I've done the Cullerin wind farm nearby: http://www.osm.org/?lat=-34.80689lon=149.39749zoom=15 and I thought I'd leave Bungendore to someone else :) And there's a massive new one to be built on the Gullen Range, between Cullerin and Crookwell. I notice that road works to facilitate heavy transport access to the area is well under way. John H ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Nearmap for Canberra
I see that Canberra is now online. - Ben. Sent from my HTC___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Nearmap for Canberra
I've only just put the announcement on the NearMap forum! http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-35.266365,149.135284z=11t=h will show you the coverage area. Cheers b On 18 February 2010 12:27, Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com wrote: I see that Canberra is now online. - Ben. Sent from my HTC ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au -- Ben Last Development Manager (HyperWeb) NearMap Pty Ltd ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Nearmap for Canberra
On 2/18/10, Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com wrote: I see that Canberra is now online. - Ben. Awesome! I've been checking NearMap daily for this to come. It's amazing to see all my favourite locales in high-res. There's sure to be alot of corrections to my previous POI entries tonight ;) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Nearmap for Canberra
On 18 February 2010 14:31, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: I've only just put the announcement on the NearMap forum! http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-35.266365,149.135284z=11t=h will show you the coverage area. It's now up on the wiki too... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NearMap_PhotoMaps#Every_Where_Else ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Nearmap for Canberra
Ben Kelley wrote: I see that Canberra is now online. Fantastic. I've just added the tiny island in the NW corner of Lake Ginninderra. What are people using for the source tag for Nearmap? John H ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Nearmap for Canberra
On 18 February 2010 14:44, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: What are people using for the source tag for Nearmap? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NearMap_PhotoMaps#Attribution ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Nearmap for Canberra
John Henderson wrote: What are people using for the source tag for Nearmap? Got it. source=nearmap John ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Nearmap for Canberra
there is a strange red hatchback with black roof-racks and a black AK47 spray stenciled on its bonnet parked in my driveway! and the shadecloth on my pergola needs repairing in one corner... :( I kid you not... I just zoomed in... :) jim On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: I've only just put the announcement on the NearMap forum! http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-35.266365,149.135284z=11t=h will show you the coverage area. Cheers b On 18 February 2010 12:27, Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com wrote: I see that Canberra is now online. - Ben. Sent from my HTC ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au -- Ben Last Development Manager (HyperWeb) NearMap Pty Ltd ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au -- _ Jim Croft ~ jim.cr...@gmail.com ~ +61-2-62509499 ~ http://www.google.com/profiles/jim.croft 'A civilized society is one which tolerates eccentricity to the point of doubtful sanity.' - Robert Frost, poet (1874-1963) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Nearmap for Canberra
On 18 February 2010 16:34, Jim Croft jim.cr...@gmail.com wrote: there is a strange red hatchback with black roof-racks and a black AK47 spray stenciled on its bonnet parked in my driveway! and the shadecloth on my pergola needs repairing in one corner... :( I kid you not... I just zoomed in... :) I wonder if Liz ever figured out the right way to tag the offices of lawyers... :) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
