Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...

2010-06-10 Thread John Henderson
On 10/06/10 15:08, John Smith wrote:

 As I said, it was just a stub page, feel free to extend it :)

I've added In some countries, a horse stile might be more commonly 
called a cavaletti or a horse hop.

John H


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Re: [talk-au] tagging giveway signs

2010-06-10 Thread John Smith
On 10 June 2010 19:59, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:
 On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:14:16 +1000
 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anyone take giveway signs? If so what tags do you normally use?

 I don't.

 However, tagwatch shows highway=giveway on some nodes, similar to 
 highway=stop I guess.

XAPI reports only 7 or 8 highway=giveway tags and I was wondering if
there was something used more often.

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Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...

2010-06-10 Thread Sam Couter
Jim Croft jim.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
 there is one near my place... will try and iPhone it this weekend...

Could you perhaps take a photo of it instead?

/camera snob
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Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Community Notification- Services Relocation

2010-06-10 Thread Brendan Morley
When I read the flier my first reaction was cool, that looks like a 
Mapnik rendering.  This is in the context of previous fliers variously 
using Google Maps or Whereis renders to provide the context.

Who knows what licencing arrangements BrisConnections has with those 
providers.  Perhaps the NearMap commerical arrangement implies that 
attribution doesn't need to be carried over.  Everyone's allowed to make 
the same mistake once.  I agree with John, let's be gentle with them, at 
least the first time.

Another opportunity for BrisConnections is for us to encourage editing 
the basemap so that it can provide up to date road configurations.  
After all, the roads get shifted around every few weeks.  It would a 
good case study.


Brendan

On 10/06/2010 3:03 PM, John Smith wrote:
 On 10 June 2010 14:26, David Deandd...@ieee.org  wrote:

 Looks like NearMap or us need to talk to BrisConnections about attribution.
  
 It might have been better to contact them privately about this before
 resorting to making a fuss publicly, I'm not sure of Nearmap's take on
 it but it'd great if more people used OSM data for this and we could
 even help them to some extent by marking it as a construction zone, or
 the dates it will be, yes we'd like the recognition of our hard work,
 but we don't want to embarsses people into a corner so in future so
 they go off and use gmaps imagery instead.

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[talk-au] A cute map reading logo...

2010-06-10 Thread Jim Croft
@jatorre this is a lovely logo from fortiousone http://yfrog.com/mrq2tp
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Re: [talk-au] tagging giveway signs

2010-06-10 Thread Roy Wallace
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 7:46 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:

 XAPI reports only 7 or 8 highway=giveway tags and I was wondering if
 there was something used more often.

No idea, but FWIW wouldn't highway=give_way be more consistent with
other OSM tags? i.e. separating words with an underscore...

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Re: [talk-au] tagging giveway signs

2010-06-10 Thread John Smith
On 11 June 2010 09:55, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 7:46 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:

 XAPI reports only 7 or 8 highway=giveway tags and I was wondering if
 there was something used more often.

 No idea, but FWIW wouldn't highway=give_way be more consistent with
 other OSM tags? i.e. separating words with an underscore...


There was only 13 of those, so it doesn't seem like many people map
them, unless people in other countries call them something else...

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Re: [talk-au] tagging giveway signs

2010-06-10 Thread Simon Biber
John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 11 June 2010 09:55, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
  No idea, but FWIW wouldn't highway=give_way be more consistent with
  other OSM tags? i.e. separating words with an underscore...
 
 
 There was only 13 of those, so it doesn't seem like many people map
 them, unless people in other countries call them something else...

Yes, in some countries they are called yield signs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yield_sign

According to 

http://www.informationfreeway.org/api/0.6/*%5Bhighway=yield%5D
http://www.informationfreeway.org/api/0.6/*%5Bhighway=giveway%5D
http://www.informationfreeway.org/api/0.6/*%5Bhighway=give_way%5D

the OSM database contains

98 instances of highway=yield  (9 distinct users)
25 instances of highway=giveway (2 distinct users)
13 instances of highway=give_way (3 distinct users)

My personal preference would have been to use give_way,  since it follows the 
tradition of using British English as the source of tag names, but the majority 
of mappers so far have chosen yield.

Regards,
Simon.


  

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Re: [talk-au] tagging giveway signs

2010-06-10 Thread John Smith
On 11 June 2010 11:45, Simon Biber simonbi...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
 My personal preference would have been to use give_way,  since it follows the 
 tradition of using British English as the source of tag names, but the 
 majority of mappers so far have chosen yield.

I've already shifted giveway to give_way and wrote a wiki page, since
there was none for yield and and doesn't help when I did a search of
yield in xapi I came up with nothing because I switched the i and e
around...

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dgive_way

I wouldn't consider ~100 sign indicative of much, other than a lacking
of presets, I could easily bump highway=give_way up by marking every
intersection in the suburb, which is why I brought this thread up in
the first place... :)

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Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...

2010-06-10 Thread John Henderson
On 10/06/10 10:33, John Smith wrote:
 On 10 June 2010 06:49, John Hendersonsnow...@gmx.com  wrote:
 I'm more than happy to go with barrier=horse_stile, given that established
 usage.  I'll change the cavalettis I've already tagged, and look at putting
 a note on the map features page when I take some photos.

 Can someone get a picture of one of these that we can use on the wiki?

I'm new to this digital photography thing, but I've photographed 7 
different cavalettis and put them here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/51019...@n07/

I presume you can just lift what you want from there.

John H

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