Re: [talk-au] Massive flooding
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 18:35:58 +1100 Nick Hocking wrote: > JohnSmith wrote > > "I originally cc'd my original email to the HOT list as well, however > it would see they doesn't bother trying to help unless you are a 3rd > world country with a high chance of PR..." > > Given the incessant trolling and cyber-stalking of OSM by some vocal > Australians, I'd be suprised if anyone else > in OSMWorld gave tuppance for what happens in Australia. __ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au there's a link just there, you are able to use it to unsubscribe ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Brisbane Flooding on NearMap
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > > > Something like: > > flood_prone=yes > > flood_prone:height=* > > > > Obviously, we'd need to carefully define "height" (is it normally with > > respect to some marker, or with respect to sea level, etc.?) Anyway, > > the idea is that this field would describe under what conditions the > > area (or way) is flood prone. ... > ...we can mark the edge as being inundated at X+4.3metres... Isn't that exactly what we want in this case? I.e. doesn't the following exactly describe the information that we are recording?: flood_prone=yes flood_prone:observed_river_height=4.3 flood_prone:gauge=Brisbane City Gauge This qualifies the conditions under which the area (or way) is "flood prone" (or actually..."flooded"). > there are generalised standards avail off BOM where floods are > major:moderate:minor, and those terms are defined here > http://www.bom.gov.au/hydro/flood/flooding.shtml#definitions_terminology On that page, I think only the following could be helpful for describing a "flood prone" area: * Observed River Height (see the example above, where you still need to identify the gauge) * "metres above mean sea level or Australian Height Datum (AHD)" So you could also have flood_prone:gauge=Australian Height Datum. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Massive flooding
On 15 January 2011 17:35, Nick Hocking wrote: > JohnSmith wrote > > "I originally cc'd my original email to the HOT list as well, however > it would see they doesn't bother trying to help unless you are a 3rd > world country with a high chance of PR..." > > Given the incessant trolling and cyber-stalking of OSM by some vocal > Australians, I'd be suprised if anyone else > in OSMWorld gave tuppance for what happens in Australia. What a pointless email, there has been a great disater with many people dead and that's the sort of thing you post in this thread. Yet another middle finger for aussies from OSM... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Massive flooding
On 15 January 2011 11:02, John Smith wrote: > Last I heard the death toll was at 16 for Qld, I'm not aware if there > has been any deaths in other states. I just heard that one person from Grantham, their body was found 86 km away. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Massive flooding
JohnSmith wrote "I originally cc'd my original email to the HOT list as well, however it would see they doesn't bother trying to help unless you are a 3rd world country with a high chance of PR..." Given the incessant trolling and cyber-stalking of OSM by some vocal Australians, I'd be suprised if anyone else in OSMWorld gave tuppance for what happens in Australia. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Brisbane Flooding on NearMap
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 07:57:49 +0100 "waldo000...@gmail.com" wrote: > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Elizabeth Dodd > wrote: > > > > > > flood_prone=yes > > > > > > Need to expand it a little to cover how often that level is > > > likely to occur etc and/or height above the normal river level. > > > > Jan 2010 added to it somehow would be adequate? > > I think it would be better to describe the flood by a height, rather > than by a date. This way, it is generalisable to future floods. > > Something like: > flood_prone=yes > flood_prone:height=* > > Obviously, we'd need to carefully define "height" (is it normally with > respect to some marker, or with respect to sea level, etc.?) Anyway, > the idea is that this field would describe under what conditions the > area (or way) is flood prone. flood markers exist at particular points but are subject to being moved you can find references on bom.gov.au to some river heights not being at the same point as the historical flood marker so you can say that this is Xmetres on the Brisbane City Gauge flood_prone:height=* sounds good but we don't have that much data - we can mark the edge as being inundated at X+4.3metres but we don't have enough data to know where the edge is at X+2 metres (etc) there are generalised standards avail off BOM where floods are major:moderate:minor and those terms are defined here http://www.bom.gov.au/hydro/flood/flooding.shtml#definitions_terminology so i suggest we make an effort to fit in with that established terminology ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Brisbane Flooding on NearMap
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > > > > flood_prone=yes > > > > Need to expand it a little to cover how often that level is likely to > > occur etc and/or height above the normal river level. > > Jan 2010 added to it somehow would be adequate? I think it would be better to describe the flood by a height, rather than by a date. This way, it is generalisable to future floods. Something like: flood_prone=yes flood_prone:height=* Obviously, we'd need to carefully define "height" (is it normally with respect to some marker, or with respect to sea level, etc.?) Anyway, the idea is that this field would describe under what conditions the area (or way) is flood prone. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Massive flooding
It's all collected at the same time, but to speed up processing we left the multiview out of this pass (it'll get done later) so that the Ipswitch and river mouth surveys get online faster cheers b On 15 January 2011 13:28, Andrew Harvey wrote: > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Ben Last wrote: > > Hi - yes, in the interests of time we skipped Multiview for these surveys > so > > as to get the PhotoMaps up faster. > > cheers > > b > > So you guys didn't collect the multiview imagery, or is it processing > and will be up at a later date? > > The terrain looks much more details than the previous flights, > expected as higher res imagery gives a higher res point cloud... even > though they don't seem to have been rendered past zoom 17. > -- Ben Last Development Manager nearmap.com ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Massive flooding
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Ben Last wrote: > Hi - yes, in the interests of time we skipped Multiview for these surveys so > as to get the PhotoMaps up faster. > cheers > b So you guys didn't collect the multiview imagery, or is it processing and will be up at a later date? The terrain looks much more details than the previous flights, expected as higher res imagery gives a higher res point cloud... even though they don't seem to have been rendered past zoom 17. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 13:03:10 +0800 Ben Last wrote: > Er... there's lots! Most of the FairFax media sites picked up the > Sydney Morning Herald article yesterday, > http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/flood-devastation-mapped-by-highres-sky-cams-20110114-19qer.html ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Brisbane Flooding on NearMap
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Brendan Morley wrote:
> Folks
>
> NearMap's flood run of Brisbane is partially online. e.g. in the CBD
> through to Oxley Creek at least.
>
> Sam Vekemans has expressed interest to me in helping trace the flood line.
>
> All I can say to that right now is please trace not just to the level of the
> visible floodwater but also the traces of where it's been. For example,
> it's fairly obvious on most of the roads where the "high tide" of the
> silt/sludge has been. This will be an invaluable resource in, essentially,
> "where not to build".
>
> I have no idea what to tag it, I'm sure you'll work something out.
There seems to be two different things here. Mapping out the extent of
the flood and mapping flood prone areas.
For mapping the extent of the flood, if it was going into the OSM
database I would suggest it be tagged as a historical item, ie.
something like natural=water, historical={{timestamp}}.
It might be worthwhile looking into the josm lake walker plug in to
see if it can help automate the classification of the flooded region.
For mapping a flood prone area, I suppose it depends a lot on the size
of the flood, ie. the higher the flood the larger the area. If just
one area is mapped, where the line is placed will be subjective.
Perhaps it would be better to put data into the database that would
allow for flood modeling, so that you can determine for any give flood
height, the resulting flood prone area. This is just a thought though.
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Re: [talk-au] Brisbane Flooding on NearMap
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 16:04:01 +1100 Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > > > > > ps. does anyone have a time stamp for exactly when the flood reached > > peak height? > > > http://www.abc.net.au/news/infographics/qld-floods/height.htm > > ___ > taken from this data http://www.bom.gov.au/fwo/IDQ65389/IDQ65389.540198.tbl.shtml (read now, it has rolling expiry) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Brisbane Flooding on NearMap
> > ps. does anyone have a time stamp for exactly when the flood reached > peak height? http://www.abc.net.au/news/infographics/qld-floods/height.htm ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Brisbane Flooding on NearMap
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 12:55:14 +1000 John Smith wrote: > On 15 January 2011 12:52, 4x4falcon wrote: > >> > >> I have no idea what to tag it, I'm sure you'll work something out. > >> > >> > >> Brendan > > > > > > flood_prone=yes > > Need to expand it a little to cover how often that level is likely to > occur etc and/or height above the normal river level. > > ___ Jan 2010 added to it somehow would be adequate? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin
Er... there's lots! Most of the FairFax media sites picked up the Sydney Morning Herald article yesterday, and now that the latest Brisbane CBD and Oxley surveys are up, the Brisbane Courier Mail and Brisbane Times linked directly to us this morning (both seem to be rotating many stories about the floods now). So traffic is pretty damn high; we cranked up the major Internet link's speed yesterday and we'll hold that whilst it's needed. But it's a pretty scalable architecture and it's working! We're noting the links to us on our Facebook/twitter feeds also, as well as announcing the surveys as they go online (I think Ipswitch is next). Cheers b On 15 January 2011 12:54, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 11:29:01 +0800 > Ben Last wrote: > > > Also: we're being linked like crazy from several major media sources, > > so if you can ensure you have a decent-size browser cache and avoid > > trying to spider down large areas of tiles, that'd be very helpful in > > reducing the load (currently around 3x the peak we saw during the WA > > Telethon competition, and climbing). > > that sounds great Ben, please tell us more about the interest in your > business > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > -- Ben Last Development Manager nearmap.com ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 11:29:01 +0800 Ben Last wrote: > Also: we're being linked like crazy from several major media sources, > so if you can ensure you have a decent-size browser cache and avoid > trying to spider down large areas of tiles, that'd be very helpful in > reducing the load (currently around 3x the peak we saw during the WA > Telethon competition, and climbing). that sounds great Ben, please tell us more about the interest in your business ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Massive flooding
Hi - yes, in the interests of time we skipped Multiview for these surveys so as to get the PhotoMaps up faster. cheers b On 15 January 2011 11:54, Stephen Hope wrote: > Ben, > > some interesting shots there. I take it the MultiView part won't be > up until later? It seems to be showing older imagery at the moment. > > A little bit of unfortunate image slicing here in just the wrong place. :) > http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-27.475182,153.020904&z=20&t=k&nmd=20110113 > > And I see the dry dock didn't stay dry. I wonder if that old ship is > still waterproof enough to float off it's supports? > http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-27.481832,153.026254&z=20&t=k&nmd=20110113 > > > Stephen > > > On 15 January 2011 11:03, Ben Last wrote: > > Just FYI, the nearmap.com images of the Brisbane CBD are now up - 2cm > > resolution and taken on the 13th (from plane to web in 36 hours). Next > up > > will be Ipswich at some point this weekend. > > http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-27.470182,153.027835&z=16&t=k > > b > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > -- Ben Last Development Manager nearmap.com ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Brisbane Flooding on NearMap
JOSM 3751 has the nearmap slippymap (i think that's the older josm). My idea is to use josm for the detailed tracing, then use qgis to convert it to a .shp file layer. Then upload it to koordinates.com as a public layer called 'your version of floodmess area'. If many people do this, then we have (on koordinates.com) a bunch of layers which are all similar, so it gets a 'croudsource view' of the area effected. The darker/higher concentratin of coverage, would tell those who would need to know, exactly where the floodline/contour is. This method is NOT using OpenStreetMap, but it's still 'crowdsourcing'. Worth a try :) ... also geocommons.com could be used to upload your version of the .shp file area. I'll have computer time sunday/monday to get started and upload my version. cheers, Sam ps. does anyone have a time stamp for exactly when the flood reached peak height? (might show up on wikipedia, havent checked) On 1/14/11, Brendan Morley wrote: > Folks > > NearMap's flood run of Brisbane is partially online. e.g. in the CBD > through to Oxley Creek at least. > > Sam Vekemans has expressed interest to me in helping trace the flood line. > > All I can say to that right now is please trace not just to the level of > the visible floodwater but also the traces of where it's been. For > example, it's fairly obvious on most of the roads where the "high tide" > of the silt/sludge has been. This will be an invaluable resource in, > essentially, "where not to build". > > I have no idea what to tag it, I'm sure you'll work something out. > > > Brendan > -- Twitter: @Acrosscanada Blogs: http://acrosscanadatrails.posterous.com/ http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans Skype: samvekemans IRC: irc://irc.oftc.net #osm-ca Canadian OSM channel (an open chat room) @Acrosscanadatrails ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin
On 15 January 2011 13:57, Andrew Harvey wrote:
> You can use NearMaps current tile API in josm 3751, as I described on
> the wiki, No redirecting necessary,
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NearMap_PhotoMaps#version_3751.2B
> This is what it should look like, http://andrew.liway.net/josm-imagery.png
Ahh I missed that, for those that also missed it, you can copy and
paste from below...
tms:http://www.nearmap.com/maps/nml=Vert&z={zoom}&x={x}&y={y}
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Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 1:02 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 15 January 2011 11:38, Andrew Harvey wrote: >> I've updated the details, for version 3751. > > I wonder if Ben would be so kind as to have a standard tile URL, I > haven't dug into the current TMS/WMS code to see if you can supply > custom URLs, alternatively using a web server to do a http redirect > seems less resource intensive than a java app: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NearMap_PhotoMaps#SlippyMap_Plugin_.28Using_hosted_URL_rewriting.29 > You can use NearMaps current tile API in josm 3751, as I described on the wiki, No redirecting necessary, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NearMap_PhotoMaps#version_3751.2B This is what it should look like, http://andrew.liway.net/josm-imagery.png ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Massive flooding
Ben, some interesting shots there. I take it the MultiView part won't be up until later? It seems to be showing older imagery at the moment. A little bit of unfortunate image slicing here in just the wrong place. :) http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-27.475182,153.020904&z=20&t=k&nmd=20110113 And I see the dry dock didn't stay dry. I wonder if that old ship is still waterproof enough to float off it's supports? http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-27.481832,153.026254&z=20&t=k&nmd=20110113 Stephen On 15 January 2011 11:03, Ben Last wrote: > Just FYI, the nearmap.com images of the Brisbane CBD are now up - 2cm > resolution and taken on the 13th (from plane to web in 36 hours). Next up > will be Ipswich at some point this weekend. > http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-27.470182,153.027835&z=16&t=k > b ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin
On 15 January 2011 13:29, Ben Last wrote:
> The URL format is pretty much Google-compatible, and there's also the format
> that was added for Potlatch (with the three ! characters).
> See
> http://forum.nearmap.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=751&p=1262&hilit=url+format#p1262
Might be google compatible, but the only URL format I've been able to
make work in JOSM is what I replied with in that thread:
http://example.com/tiles/z/x/y.[jpg|png]
I currently use the following URL to make it work:
tms:http://localhost/nearmap-tiles/
Then in lighttpd.conf I have:
url.redirect+=
("^/nearmap-tiles/(.+)/(.+)/(.+)\.(.*)$" =>
"http://www.nearmap.com/maps/nml=Vert&x=$2&y=$3&z=$1"; )
url.redirect+=
("^/nearmap-date/(.+)/(.+)/(.+)/(.+)\.(.*)$" =>
"http://www.nearmap.com/maps/nmd=$1&nml=Vert&x=$3&y=$4&z=$2"; )
The apache equivalent is on the wiki still:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NearMap_PhotoMaps#SlippyMap_Plugin_.28Using_hosted_URL_rewriting.29
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The URL format is pretty much Google-compatible, and there's also the format that was added for Potlatch (with the three ! characters). See http://forum.nearmap.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=751&p=1262&hilit=url+format#p1262 Please note that I'm not making any specific comment whatsoever regarding any CT or licence terms for anything you may choose to do when tracing - our licence terms are the same as they've always been. Also: we're being linked like crazy from several major media sources, so if you can ensure you have a decent-size browser cache and avoid trying to spider down large areas of tiles, that'd be very helpful in reducing the load (currently around 3x the peak we saw during the WA Telethon competition, and climbing). On 15 January 2011 10:49, John Smith wrote: > On 15 January 2011 12:15, 4x4falcon wrote: > > Already done this using the BTC redirect but was hoping to use the > > "SlippyMap Plugin Custom Tile Source" method as the redirect is very > slow. > > Same thing for tiles... > > Slippy map integrated with WMS, tms = tile map source (I assume) > > This is what I was suggesting for Ben, a tms:http://nearmap URL so we > don't need to redirect via any 3rd parties, or even our own servers. > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > -- Ben Last Development Manager nearmap.com ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Brisbane Flooding on NearMap
On 15 January 2011 12:52, 4x4falcon wrote: >> >> I have no idea what to tag it, I'm sure you'll work something out. >> >> >> Brendan > > > flood_prone=yes Need to expand it a little to cover how often that level is likely to occur etc and/or height above the normal river level. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Brisbane Flooding on NearMap
I have no idea what to tag it, I'm sure you'll work something out. Brendan flood_prone=yes Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Brisbane Flooding on NearMap
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Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin
On 15 January 2011 12:15, 4x4falcon wrote: > Already done this using the BTC redirect but was hoping to use the > "SlippyMap Plugin Custom Tile Source" method as the redirect is very slow. Same thing for tiles... Slippy map integrated with WMS, tms = tile map source (I assume) This is what I was suggesting for Ben, a tms:http://nearmap URL so we don't need to redirect via any 3rd parties, or even our own servers. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Brisbane Flooding on NearMap
Folks NearMap's flood run of Brisbane is partially online. e.g. in the CBD through to Oxley Creek at least. Sam Vekemans has expressed interest to me in helping trace the flood line. All I can say to that right now is please trace not just to the level of the visible floodwater but also the traces of where it's been. For example, it's fairly obvious on most of the roads where the "high tide" of the silt/sludge has been. This will be an invaluable resource in, essentially, "where not to build". I have no idea what to tag it, I'm sure you'll work something out. Brendan ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin
On 15/01/11 10:06, John Smith wrote: On 15 January 2011 12:03, 4x4falcon wrote: How do you get it to show on the imagery menu list? Add another layer to the list: tms:http://localhost:/ Or something to that effect, depending where you are pulling the images from. Already done this using the BTC redirect but was hoping to use the "SlippyMap Plugin Custom Tile Source" method as the redirect is very slow. Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin
On 15 January 2011 12:03, 4x4falcon wrote: > How do you get it to show on the imagery menu list? Add another layer to the list: tms:http://localhost:/ Or something to that effect, depending where you are pulling the images from. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin
On 15/01/11 09:38, Andrew Harvey wrote: I've updated the details, for version 3751. On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Andrew Harvey wrote: I've put some details on how to add NearMap back in for the latest JOSM versions on the wiki, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NearMap_PhotoMaps#SlippyMap_Plugin_Custom_Tile_Source ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au How do you get it to show on the imagery menu list? Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Victorian Coastline
I had a look to see if a simple revert in JOSM was possible. For some reason probably because it was a huge change and others had edited since, JOSM couldn't find some history and would just fail. I then gave up. Markus_g -Original Message- From: 4x4falcon [mailto:i...@4x4falcon.com] Sent: Saturday, 15 January 2011 12:07 PM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] Victorian Coastline On 15/01/11 03:37, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:46:08 +1030 > "Markus_g" wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Someone has added coastline to the administration boundaries from the >> SA border to Port Philip Bay and removed the old coastline. There >> edit comment was "removed malformed Victorian/SE SA coastlines and >> added 'coastline' tag to administrative boundaries to form accurate >> coastlines" >> >> The direction of the coastline is mostly now reversed. I am planning >> to reverse the coastline direction and repair the Conservation Park >> at the SA/Vic boarder unless someone beats me to it. >> >> Markus_g >> Rather than doing it manually how about reverting the changeset? Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin
On 15 January 2011 11:38, Andrew Harvey wrote: > I've updated the details, for version 3751. I wonder if Ben would be so kind as to have a standard tile URL, I haven't dug into the current TMS/WMS code to see if you can supply custom URLs, alternatively using a web server to do a http redirect seems less resource intensive than a java app: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NearMap_PhotoMaps#SlippyMap_Plugin_.28Using_hosted_URL_rewriting.29 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Victorian Coastline
I contacted the user and he will duplicate the coastline. I agree that the best option is to duplicate. Ill have a check on it after he is finished. Markus_g -Original Message- From: Elizabeth Dodd [mailto:ed...@billiau.net] Sent: Saturday, 15 January 2011 6:07 AM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] Victorian Coastline On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:46:08 +1030 "Markus_g" wrote: > Hello, > > Someone has added coastline to the administration boundaries from the > SA border to Port Philip Bay and removed the old coastline. There > edit comment was "removed malformed Victorian/SE SA coastlines and > added 'coastline' tag to administrative boundaries to form accurate > coastlines" > > The direction of the coastline is mostly now reversed. I am planning > to reverse the coastline direction and repair the Conservation Park > at the SA/Vic boarder unless someone beats me to it. > > Markus_g > It would be best that the coastline was duplicated, and separate from the admin boundary I spent some hours on a wet weekend doing this for 2 major rivers, and just like the mentioned coastline, directions weren't always right, and one river had a gap in it which I closed. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin
I've updated the details, for version 3751. On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Andrew Harvey wrote: > I've put some details on how to add NearMap back in for the latest > JOSM versions on the wiki, > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NearMap_PhotoMaps#SlippyMap_Plugin_Custom_Tile_Source > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Victorian Coastline
On 15/01/11 03:37, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:46:08 +1030 "Markus_g" wrote: Hello, Someone has added coastline to the administration boundaries from the SA border to Port Philip Bay and removed the old coastline. There edit comment was "removed malformed Victorian/SE SA coastlines and added 'coastline' tag to administrative boundaries to form accurate coastlines" The direction of the coastline is mostly now reversed. I am planning to reverse the coastline direction and repair the Conservation Park at the SA/Vic boarder unless someone beats me to it. Markus_g Rather than doing it manually how about reverting the changeset? Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Massive flooding
On 15 January 2011 11:29, John Smith wrote: > Here's a couple of interesting things I found: > > http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=NaN,NaN&z=20&t=k&nmd=20110113 Hmmm looks like I hit a bug :D http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-27.541924,152.944222&z=19&t=k&nmd=20110113 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Massive flooding
On 15 January 2011 11:03, Ben Last wrote: > Just FYI, the nearmap.com images of the Brisbane CBD are now up - 2cm > resolution and taken on the 13th (from plane to web in 36 hours). Next up > will be Ipswich at some point this weekend. > http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-27.470182,153.027835&z=16&t=k Here's a couple of interesting things I found: http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=NaN,NaN&z=20&t=k&nmd=20110113 You can see where the water levels were at... And this one people are in the local park getting some recreation time in: http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-27.4,153.94&z=22&t=k&nmd=20110113 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Massive flooding
Just FYI, the nearmap.com images of the Brisbane CBD are now up - 2cm resolution and taken on the 13th (from plane to web in 36 hours). Next up will be Ipswich at some point this weekend. http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-27.470182,153.027835&z=16&t=k b On 12 January 2011 18:39, John Smith wrote: > On 12 January 2011 16:18, Ben Last wrote: > > Cloudbase was at 1600' last time James looked at it, which is a bit too > low; > > I just spoke to him and whilst we can fly at 1000' if we want (for a 1cm > > survey), the buildings in Brisbane are a bit higher than in Perth :) > > Only in the city itself, then again that's where the Brisbane River is > flooding... > -- Ben Last Development Manager nearmap.com ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Massive flooding
On 15 January 2011 10:45, Richard Weait wrote: > Perhaps somebody familiar with the affected areas could create a list > of specific ways that remote mappers can help? Tasks that include > specific geographic starting points and limited scope are easier to > act on. Almost all eastern states of Australia are effected to some extent, Brisbane[1] and surrounding areas is just making most of the headlines because of the amount of people effected and the potential cost of the disaster. That said Grantham, Qld[2] seems to have been hardest hit with a flash flood demolishing houses and killing the people inside them. Toowoomba[3] was hit pretty hard as well, I think several people died during the same flash flood event. Last I heard the death toll was at 16 for Qld, I'm not aware if there has been any deaths in other states. Rockhampton[4] and Bundaberg[5] wer also flooded extensively, and there were reports of lots of snakes and crocodiles in the flood water. The in the state of Western Australia you have bush fires taking out houses, again because of all the focus on Brisbane these other areas aren't getting the same sort of coverage. Australia Post spent a lot of time and effort figuring out routes around the flood waters, this would have been a great opportunity for OSM and people making routing software to shine. > "map the extent of the ridge starting [lat, lon] and running northeast for n > km" > > "map the roads, now flooded, between that ridge and the river" Thankfully the water is now receding and so far the rain is holding off, but places like St George in south western Qld have just had their 2nd major flood event in 10 months, so it's possible with the ground so wet that it wouldn't take much rain to kick off another major flood event in the near future, and this might be likely with a strong la nina event persisting much longer than most had previously predicted. [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-27.458&lon=153.027&zoom=10&layers=M [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-27.578&lon=152.20163&zoom=15&layers=M [3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-27.5666&lon=151.9347&zoom=13&layers=M [4] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-23.4001&lon=150.5106&zoom=12&layers=M [5] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-24.8757&lon=152.3254&zoom=12&layers=M * I'm not sure where the bush fires are exactly, can anyone else comment on this? These are only the more populated areas that have been effected, there is lots of farms isolated due to flood water that have to get helicopters to bring in food and other supplies that is of course assuming their farm house is still above water. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Massive flooding
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:02 AM, John Smith wrote: > Not sure how useful it'd be in Australia, but the massive floods all > over Australia, except for the bush fires near Perth of course, might > do well to map a lot of effected areas from Bing where coverage > exists. and then ... On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 4:00 PM, John Smith wrote: > I originally cc'd my original email to the HOT list as well, > howeverBrotherhood Union Mevlana Supreme Foundation > it would see they doesn't bother trying to help unless you are a 3rd > world country with a high chance of PR... Perhaps somebody familiar with the affected areas could create a list of specific ways that remote mappers can help? Tasks that include specific geographic starting points and limited scope are easier to act on. "map the extent of the ridge starting [lat, lon] and running northeast for n km" "map the roads, now flooded, between that ridge and the river" If current, post-flood, imagery is available, and that data would be helpful, point to it and let folks know how it can help. I know that flood event imagery was difficult to get in Pakistan due to the continued overcast. "where the flooding has retreated in [town] [lat, lon] map the unmapped roads and indicate the roads that are washed out." If other emergency data is available, indicate how it can be processed to help. "aid and relief stations are at the locations in this file, we need an overlay layer for that." ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Massive flooding
I originally cc'd my original email to the HOT list as well, however it would see they doesn't bother trying to help unless you are a 3rd world country with a high chance of PR... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Victorian Coastline
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:46:08 +1030 "Markus_g" wrote: > Hello, > > Someone has added coastline to the administration boundaries from the > SA border to Port Philip Bay and removed the old coastline. There > edit comment was "removed malformed Victorian/SE SA coastlines and > added 'coastline' tag to administrative boundaries to form accurate > coastlines" > > The direction of the coastline is mostly now reversed. I am planning > to reverse the coastline direction and repair the Conservation Park > at the SA/Vic boarder unless someone beats me to it. > > Markus_g > It would be best that the coastline was duplicated, and separate from the admin boundary I spent some hours on a wet weekend doing this for 2 major rivers, and just like the mentioned coastline, directions weren't always right, and one river had a gap in it which I closed. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Victorian Coastline
Hello, Someone has added coastline to the administration boundaries from the SA border to Port Philip Bay and removed the old coastline. There edit comment was "removed malformed Victorian/SE SA coastlines and added 'coastline' tag to administrative boundaries to form accurate coastlines" The direction of the coastline is mostly now reversed. I am planning to reverse the coastline direction and repair the Conservation Park at the SA/Vic boarder unless someone beats me to it. Markus_g ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
