[talk-au] Strained relations

2011-12-21 Thread Nick Hocking
Hi,

Whilst replacing tainted data with good data (in areas that I have
personally surveyed), I'm
sure that I have broken some relations.

So firstly, apologies to the guy/s in Canberra that have done some
magnificant work with
relations here.

I have been attempting to fix any relations that I have broken, but I'm not
too good (yet)
at them and so have probably messed them up a bit.

Once all our roads are secure I will spend the time needed to fix all the
relations properly.

Nick
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Re: [talk-au] Strained relations

2011-12-21 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
The data.gov.au ODbL re-licencing means we could reimport the ACT bus
route relations from
http://data.gov.au/dataset/journey-planner-data-act/ using a version
of http://code.google.com/p/gtfs-osm-sync/ that still does relations.

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Nick Hocking  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Whilst replacing tainted data with good data (in areas that I have
> personally surveyed), I'm
> sure that I have broken some relations.
>
> So firstly, apologies to the guy/s in Canberra that have done some
> magnificant work with
> relations here.
>
> I have been attempting to fix any relations that I have broken, but I'm not
> too good (yet)
> at them and so have probably messed them up a bit.
>
> Once all our roads are secure I will spend the time needed to fix all the
> relations properly.
>
> Nick
>
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Re: [talk-au] Strained relations

2011-12-21 Thread Nick Hocking
Alex wrote

"The data.gov.au ODbL re-licencing means we could reimport the ACT bus
route relations from:

Thanks Alex,  yes that's a bit of a relief.  I'll still try to fix them as
I break then since it's good practice
but I guess we should import them periodically anyway to remain current.

Nick
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[talk-au] Remapping Sydney's railways

2011-12-21 Thread Ben Johnson
Just a heads up... I've started remapping Sydney's railway lines,  
given about 80% of them are marked to be wiped.


I am a CityRail train driver and regularly travel over most of these  
train lines and have intimate knowledge of them - including track  
direction, electrification details, location of points, names of  
tracks and sidings, speeds, etc.. and I also do a lot of GPS traces  
while driving trains.  I don't mind undertaking this task, and once  
complete I'll add the passenger route relations.


At this stage I'll stick with what I know best - i.e. the Sydney  
suburban area bounded by Berowra, Bondi Junction, Cronulla, Waterfall,  
Macarthur, Emu Plains and Richmond. My focus will be on the actual  
train tracks first.


Thought I'd let the community know, so that others may concentrate  
their efforts on remapping other priority stuff - and I guess it makes  
sense to start with things you know the most about.


I just want to add, that I think the original v1 creator of Sydney's  
railways (JohnSmith) had done a fantastic job, and I had shown a few  
people at RailCorp who were very impressed with the level of detail -  
so I want it on record that I take no pleasure in having to delete and  
remap his fantastic work, but I guess it's time to bunker down because  
it just has to be done.


Cheers,
BJ


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Re: [talk-au] Remapping Sydney's railways

2011-12-21 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 22 December 2011 15:16, Ben Johnson  wrote:

> I just want to add, that I think the original v1 creator of Sydney's
> railways (JohnSmith) had done a fantastic job, and I had shown a few people
> at RailCorp who were very impressed with the level of detail - so I want it
> on record that I take no pleasure in having to delete and remap his
> fantastic work, but I guess it's time to bunker down because it just has to
> be done.
>

No doubt.

However, for the record, all of Sydney's railways were largely mapped
before JohnSmith.

I'm confident there would be substantial history there that could be
recovered for most rail lines and stations prior to his involvement if
required (although the degree to which it was compliant would still have to
be determined).

Regardless, I'm sure your remapping will be superior.

Ian.
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Re: [talk-au] Remapping Sydney's railways

2011-12-21 Thread Nick Hocking
Ian Wrote  "Regardless, I'm sure your remapping will be superior."


Absolutely agree  - on the ground mapping from someone in the business is
as good as it can get. It will always be spot on accurate and also
up-to-date.

I'd remap Canberra Railway station except that they are going to shove it
out
to Fyshwick  (I'll map in out there).

Nick
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Re: [talk-au] Strained relations

2011-12-21 Thread Peter Watson
If the Relation was set up by a contributor who has disagreed what happens?
I assume it would need to be removed. I don't know how to tell who put in a
relation.
Peter W34
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