Re: [talk-au] Few questions about tagging ways in Australia
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 1:42 AM, Chuan wrote: > 2. How should cycle paths be tagged, with regards to lcn, rcn, or ncn? I have > read http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#LCN > > Should these be tagged in relations, or should ways themselves be tagged > directly with rcn=yes? > > Viewing on opencyclemap, the south of Canberra has mostly lcn, with the Lake > Burly Griffin cyclepath tagged as rcn, and the north of Canberra tagged with > rcn. IMHO the goal is to end up with a map that has a mixture of both LCN and RCN, for readability: the long, "arterial" bike paths should be RCN. Something a bit like this: http://osm.org/go/0GFsCH--?layers=C (except in that case, it's a mix of RCN and NCN mostly). > 4. Lastly, in either reconstructing huge areas of redaction, or mapping > unmapped areas, where are people getting street names from? Street signs? IMHO, it's perfectly valid to consult other maps (Bing, Google Maps, Melway, whatever) for street names, as long as you don't *systematically* copy names from one source. Individual facts are not subject to copyright (certainly not in Australia). There is nothing magical about a street sign that makes it valid to copy a name from a physical sign, but not from some other source. This is probably a minority view though. Steve ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Few questions about tagging ways in Australia
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: [ ... ] > IMHO, it's perfectly valid to consult other maps (Bing, Google Maps, > Melway, whatever) for street names, I disagree in the strongest possible terms. It is not perfectly valid to use those resources for OpenStreetMap and you are advised in every reference against using such resources. Don't copy anything into OpenStreetMap from any published map or other source without explicit permission. Map the things that you observe in your personal surveys. Combine those observations with the information from resources we have explicit permission to use for OpenStreetMap. If you have doubts; don't use a resource. And ask the License Working Group if you need help with related issues. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Few questions about tagging ways in Australia
Hi I can understand the sensitivity and required care but with geographical features the traditional resources have been maps and so you are a bit trapped. I can understand tracing from copyright work is not on but sounds like checking the spelling of a name Is even taboo. Just as an aside, more than a few copyright sources get things wrong plus even the authorities with the classic being different spelling of a location on the reverse side if a sign. How do you check this? Copyrighting town names does not sound legitimate even on commercial products. Yes I accept taking a list line by line is dubious practice but referring to a source for a check sounds ok. Basically the reason I know many names is from maps or people that had referred to maps. Surely that is legitimate?. But yes the aim must always to avoid a redaction mark two, three, etc. Cheers Brett On 09/09/2012, at 3:07 PM, "Richard Weait" wrote: > On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: > [ ... ] >> IMHO, it's perfectly valid to consult other maps (Bing, Google Maps, >> Melway, whatever) for street names, > > I disagree in the strongest possible terms. It is not perfectly valid > to use those resources for OpenStreetMap and you are advised in every > reference against using such resources. > > Don't copy anything into OpenStreetMap from any published map or other > source without explicit permission. > > Map the things that you observe in your personal surveys. Combine > those observations with the information from resources we have > explicit permission to use for OpenStreetMap. If you have doubts; > don't use a resource. And ask the License Working Group if you need > help with related issues. > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
