Re: [talk-au] South Australia - Public Transport / OSM data
The advantage of the Vicmap address data is that it's the entrance to the property for the address. Mostly, there are some that are center of the property where the entrance is not known. This is the preferred data for addresses. Cadastral data usually shows the boundary of the property but gives no clue to the entrance for the address. If SA published a georeferenced entrance node address data licenced appropriately it would give the address data but it also lets you determine the street names. Cheers Ross On 28/11/13 16:23, Daniel O'Connor wrote: Yeah, that'd be really, really great if SA could publish cadastre and other information openly. It'd be interesting to know what's already available via the land services group - I know for example that cadastre and address info is published and integrated by the PSMA to make GNAF/Cadlite information; but presumably that's not an easy process to open up to the public at the drop of a hat. That said, just last week I was speaking to a few commercial entities who were helping with the publication of vicmap data - taking the raw shapefiles and slicing/dicing/serving it up to business, to take away the integration pains - so there are clear examples of both the public and commercial sectors benefiting from this sort of open data. On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:14 PM, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com mailto:i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: ·Street Address Limitations ( missing streets and street numbers) Make a dataset like this available for inclusion in openstreetmap http://www.data.vic.gov.au/__raw_data/vicmap-address/4875 http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/vicmap-address/4875 Would resolve the above fairly rapidly. Cheers Ross ·walking paths data not included across many of the highways (North East and Main North Gepps cross) connected to transport infrastructure, such as railway stations, and bus interchanges. Grange is a hot spot, as has been Aldinga, Blackwood and Belair, Mclaren vale ( which looks like its improving) and some areas around ·Southern and Northern suburb areas not detailed ·Smaller Shopping Centres, Councils and other places of interest not named. I’d be very happy to help as I am also involved with the Government Open Data program at http://data.sa.gov.au/ I’m keen on building some good relationships with contributors and application developers so would like to gather some more support for OSM in South Australia. _ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.__org/listinfo/talk-au https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] South Australia - Public Transport / OSM data
Hi, I had a bit of a go at the missing street names last night and have developed a workflow and and measures. I'd invite any armchair mappers to help me on this. I'm getting through about 100 missing names per hour so there is about 28 hours of armchair mapping here that will help quite a bit. I've done most of the bit between Churchill Road, Grand Junction Road, Hampstead Road and the ring route. Measures: Sum the number of missing names and major roads for each OSMI update using the following scripts: As of 2013-11-26 20:52 (UTC) its 304 major and 2607 minor = 2911 total wget http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/view/highways/wxs?SERVICE=WFSVERSION=1.0.0REQUEST=GetFeatureBBOX=138.42,-35.35,138.92,-34.56TYPENAME=name_missing_major; -O - | grep ms:way_id | wc -l wget http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/view/highways/wxs?SERVICE=WFSVERSION=1.0.0REQUEST=GetFeatureBBOX=138.42,-35.35,138.92,-34.56TYPENAME=name_missing_minor; -O - | grep ms:way_id | wc -l Workflow: step 1 - Identify a rectangular area (bounding box) to work on from http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=highwayslon=138.61652lat=-34.89897zoom=11overlays=name_missing_major,name_missing_minor step 2 - Download Roads.zip from http://data.sa.gov.au/dataset/roads which has street names in it step 3 - Create a new vector layer in QGIS from roads.zip (takes a minute or two) step 4 - select the bounding box identified in step 1 in QGIS (the bounding box tool is in a pull-down icon) step 4 - export the selected objects in this layer to a new shapefile. This gives something that JOSM will load quickly step 5 - Open up JOSM and open the shapefile from step 4 (needs the OpenData plug in), this should be fairly quick and painless step 6 - As a new layer, download part of the area identified at step 1 to work on step 7 - press validate step 8 - for each unnamed way identified at step 7, zoom to it and then alter the visible layer to identify the name, then edit in the correct name and use a tag source:name=data.sa.gov.au. Remove fixme=name tags if present step 9 - repeat steps 7 and 8 until no unnamed ways are left step 10 - time permitting have a look at other JOSM identified validation errors step 11 - repeat step 6 to 10 until the whole area is covered step 12 - repeat steps 1 to 11 until all of Adelaide is fixed Alex - Original Message - From: Walker Garth (DPTI) To:talk-au@openstreetmap.org Cc: Sent:Wed, 27 Nov 2013 11:32:04 +1030 Subject:[talk-au] South Australia - Public Transport / OSM data Currently we’ve identified that there are several areas of OSM which require tagging for pedestrian access, which impacts our open trip planning routing options. · Street Address Limitations ( missing streets and street numbers) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] South Australia - Public Transport / OSM data
Updated the wiki. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_South_Australia#Mapcraft_Projects.2C_Imports_and_more On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Alex Sims softg...@internode.on.netwrote: Hi, I had a bit of a go at the missing street names last night and have developed a workflow and and measures. I'd invite any armchair mappers to help me on this. I'm getting through about 100 missing names per hour so there is about 28 hours of armchair mapping here that will help quite a bit. I've done most of the bit between Churchill Road, Grand Junction Road, Hampstead Road and the ring route. Measures: Sum the number of missing names and major roads for each OSMI update using the following scripts: As of 2013-11-26 20:52 (UTC) its 304 major and 2607 minor = 2911 total wget http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/view/highways/wxs?SERVICE=WFSVERSION=1.0.0REQUEST=GetFeatureBBOX=138.42,-35.35,138.92,-34.56TYPENAME=name_missing_major; -O - | grep ms:way_id | wc -l wget http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/view/highways/wxs?SERVICE=WFSVERSION=1.0.0REQUEST=GetFeatureBBOX=138.42,-35.35,138.92,-34.56TYPENAME=name_missing_minor; -O - | grep ms:way_id | wc -l Workflow: step 1 - Identify a rectangular area (bounding box) to work on from http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=highwayslon=138.61652lat=-34.89897zoom=11overlays=name_missing_major,name_missing_minor step 2 - Download Roads.zip from http://data.sa.gov.au/dataset/roadswhich has street names in it step 3 - Create a new vector layer in QGIS from roads.zip (takes a minute or two) step 4 - select the bounding box identified in step 1 in QGIS (the bounding box tool is in a pull-down icon) step 4 - export the selected objects in this layer to a new shapefile. This gives something that JOSM will load quickly step 5 - Open up JOSM and open the shapefile from step 4 (needs the OpenData plug in), this should be fairly quick and painless step 6 - As a new layer, download part of the area identified at step 1 to work on step 7 - press validate step 8 - for each unnamed way identified at step 7, zoom to it and then alter the visible layer to identify the name, then edit in the correct name and use a tag source:name=data.sa.gov.au. Remove fixme=name tags if present step 9 - repeat steps 7 and 8 until no unnamed ways are left step 10 - time permitting have a look at other JOSM identified validation errors step 11 - repeat step 6 to 10 until the whole area is covered step 12 - repeat steps 1 to 11 until all of Adelaide is fixed Alex - Original Message - From: Walker Garth (DPTI) garth.wal...@sa.gov.au To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org talk-au@openstreetmap.org Cc: Sent: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 11:32:04 +1030 Subject: [talk-au] South Australia - Public Transport / OSM data Currently we’ve identified that there are several areas of OSM which require tagging for pedestrian access, which impacts our open trip planning routing options. · Street Address Limitations ( missing streets and street numbers) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] South Australia - Public Transport / OSM data
Also, added a mapcraft project to help share/visualize progress/generate a bounding box easily. http://mapcraft.nanodesu.ru/pie/337 On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Daniel O'Connor daniel.ocon...@gmail.comwrote: Updated the wiki. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_South_Australia#Mapcraft_Projects.2C_Imports_and_more On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Alex Sims softg...@internode.on.netwrote: Hi, I had a bit of a go at the missing street names last night and have developed a workflow and and measures. I'd invite any armchair mappers to help me on this. I'm getting through about 100 missing names per hour so there is about 28 hours of armchair mapping here that will help quite a bit. I've done most of the bit between Churchill Road, Grand Junction Road, Hampstead Road and the ring route. Measures: Sum the number of missing names and major roads for each OSMI update using the following scripts: As of 2013-11-26 20:52 (UTC) its 304 major and 2607 minor = 2911 total wget http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/view/highways/wxs?SERVICE=WFSVERSION=1.0.0REQUEST=GetFeatureBBOX=138.42,-35.35,138.92,-34.56TYPENAME=name_missing_major; -O - | grep ms:way_id | wc -l wget http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/view/highways/wxs?SERVICE=WFSVERSION=1.0.0REQUEST=GetFeatureBBOX=138.42,-35.35,138.92,-34.56TYPENAME=name_missing_minor; -O - | grep ms:way_id | wc -l Workflow: step 1 - Identify a rectangular area (bounding box) to work on from http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=highwayslon=138.61652lat=-34.89897zoom=11overlays=name_missing_major,name_missing_minor step 2 - Download Roads.zip from http://data.sa.gov.au/dataset/roadswhich has street names in it step 3 - Create a new vector layer in QGIS from roads.zip (takes a minute or two) step 4 - select the bounding box identified in step 1 in QGIS (the bounding box tool is in a pull-down icon) step 4 - export the selected objects in this layer to a new shapefile. This gives something that JOSM will load quickly step 5 - Open up JOSM and open the shapefile from step 4 (needs the OpenData plug in), this should be fairly quick and painless step 6 - As a new layer, download part of the area identified at step 1 to work on step 7 - press validate step 8 - for each unnamed way identified at step 7, zoom to it and then alter the visible layer to identify the name, then edit in the correct name and use a tag source:name=data.sa.gov.au. Remove fixme=name tags if present step 9 - repeat steps 7 and 8 until no unnamed ways are left step 10 - time permitting have a look at other JOSM identified validation errors step 11 - repeat step 6 to 10 until the whole area is covered step 12 - repeat steps 1 to 11 until all of Adelaide is fixed Alex - Original Message - From: Walker Garth (DPTI) garth.wal...@sa.gov.au To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org talk-au@openstreetmap.org Cc: Sent: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 11:32:04 +1030 Subject: [talk-au] South Australia - Public Transport / OSM data Currently we’ve identified that there are several areas of OSM which require tagging for pedestrian access, which impacts our open trip planning routing options. · Street Address Limitations ( missing streets and street numbers) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
