Re: [talk-au] City of Melbourne data imports

2014-08-20 Thread Leon Kernan
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Daniel O'Connor daniel.ocon...@gmail.com
wrote:

 If they have the data, building footprints are also pretty neat.
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geelong_Building_Import is one I did a
 few months ago - some of the geospatial team there are dead keen on open
 data and would no doubt be happy to talk with their melbourne counterparts
 as well


Yes, this would be great.  For people who've never seen it, check out
Geelong on http://demo.f4map.com and you can see how big building data is
going to be.

I believe some building imports are going to be essential at the start.
It's just too tedious for anyone to do large areas, even badly.
I'm working though placing basic building areas in Frankston, Seaford and
across parts of Northern Tasmania and it's just a massive task. That's not
even going into a lot of detail or adding data like height like the Geelong
data.

My hope is that by placing the basic areas down, people might find it a
little easier to add details to them later on.
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Re: [talk-au] City of Melbourne data imports

2014-08-20 Thread Simon Poole


Am 20.08.2014 11:38, schrieb Leon Kernan:

 
 Yes, this would be great.  For people who've never seen it, check out
 Geelong on http://demo.f4map.com and you can see how big building data
 is going to be.
 
 I believe some building imports are going to be essential at the start. 
 It's just too tedious for anyone to do large areas, even badly. 
 I'm working though placing basic building areas in Frankston, Seaford
 and across parts of Northern Tasmania and it's just a massive task.
 That's not even going into a lot of detail or adding data like height
 like the Geelong data.
 
 My hope is that by placing the basic areas down, people might find it a
 little easier to add details to them later on.


This is slightly off topic: but there is no evidence at all that imports
make things better. What is true is that coverage initially (after the
import) tends to be good, it then typically rapidly decays because there
are no mappers to actually maintain the data (and that has shown itself
many times from a small to a large scale). While it might be tedious,
actually doing the work is the thing that builds strong communities.

The above doesn't mean that you shouldn't do the import(s), but you
should probably not expect too much in the way of kick starting anything.

Simon



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