Re: [talk-au] Another tool for finding Poke-paths

2017-02-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks Warin

Wasn't sure of how best to respond to them?

Thanks

Graeme


On 6 February 2017 at 14:25, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have made a changeset  comment ... I hope they respond.
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/45454430
>
> My Comment is
> "The changeset comment "These places are important" is subjective. Far
> better to state something like "added park in my local area."
>
> I have added the playgrounds to these parks. I have also refined the
> boundary of Greenlow Park. I hope that is an improvement.
>
> The paths you have added are questionable ... particularly for the
>
> imagery used as that shows little evidence of the paths. The inner path
> of Walara Reserve does not connect to anything... and it should.
>
> Be aware that entries like yours are being examined for fictitious
> objects to attract Pokemon things .. Please state your source for the
> paths you have added."
>
>
>
> On 06-Feb-17 09:45 AM, Andrew Harvey wrote:
>
>> On 3 February 2017 at 10:08, Graeme Fitzpatrick 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The ones I looked at were http://osmcha.mapbox.com/45454430/ (the
>>> zig-zag
>>> made me wonder?) & http://osmcha.mapbox.com/45454374/ (a nice straight
>>> rectangular path?).
>>>
>> In my opinion, for the first one, it does seem plausible, it cuts
>> through the tree line, and they did tag it as surface=ground so it
>> might not be easily seen from imagery. Only way to confirm is on the
>> ground survey or ask the contributor via a changeset comment. The tag
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:informal could be used if it
>> only evolved through usage.
>>
>> The second one looks more suspect, you can't even see a faint trail
>> from the Mapbox imagery, I would say it's too hard to tell without an
>> on the ground survey to confirm. Or ask the contributor what the path
>> there really is like.
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Re: [talk-au] Another tool for finding Poke-paths

2017-02-05 Thread Warin

I have made a changeset  comment ... I hope they respond.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/45454430

My Comment is
"The changeset comment "These places are important" is subjective. Far
better to state something like "added park in my local area."

I have added the playgrounds to these parks. I have also refined the boundary 
of Greenlow Park. I hope that is an improvement.

The paths you have added are questionable ... particularly for the

imagery used as that shows little evidence of the paths. The inner path
of Walara Reserve does not connect to anything... and it should.

Be aware that entries like yours are being examined for fictitious
objects to attract Pokemon things .. Please state your source for the
paths you have added."



On 06-Feb-17 09:45 AM, Andrew Harvey wrote:

On 3 February 2017 at 10:08, Graeme Fitzpatrick  wrote:

The ones I looked at were http://osmcha.mapbox.com/45454430/ (the zig-zag
made me wonder?) & http://osmcha.mapbox.com/45454374/ (a nice straight
rectangular path?).

In my opinion, for the first one, it does seem plausible, it cuts
through the tree line, and they did tag it as surface=ground so it
might not be easily seen from imagery. Only way to confirm is on the
ground survey or ask the contributor via a changeset comment. The tag
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:informal could be used if it
only evolved through usage.

The second one looks more suspect, you can't even see a faint trail
from the Mapbox imagery, I would say it's too hard to tell without an
on the ground survey to confirm. Or ask the contributor what the path
there really is like.

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Re: [talk-au] Residential Coordinates

2017-02-05 Thread Daniel O'Connor
Perhaps a good use for this kind of data would be a feed of *buildings not
mapped*

IE:
 - Grab data as you are doing or via a platform like morph.io
 - Overpass queries to find out if there is any building geometry at given
coordinates
 - Produce an RSS feed or similar (Maproulette? To-fix?)

I manually do something similar with planningalerts, to find buildings
being demolished or built in my area.

The rental information itself is probably better in a separate repo - its
likely to change frequently with leases. A number of commercial data
providers sell this kind of thing; so there's obviously some use for it...
just perhaps not in OSM itself.

On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Timur Behlul  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I have been scraping rental properties off the net for an analysis I am
> doing on Sydney. In the process I geo-coded these properties using Bing
> Maps. There are around 100,000 properties.
>
> Would this informaiton be useful. I can I upload it to OSM even though I
> used Bing Maps to geo-code them?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Timur
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Re: [talk-au] Residential Coordinates

2017-02-05 Thread Warin

On 06-Feb-17 10:14 AM, Andrew Harvey wrote:

On 6 February 2017 at 06:42, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:

Why use Bing Maps?

For OSM it would be far better to use the LIP Base map for the address data
and then use the LPI Imagery for the building footprint.

That aside and the scraping of the original data aside, would we even
want properties currently for rent in OSM. Seems like it's best done
as an external database to OSM?



Any building can be added with the address data .. if it is for sale, rent does 
not matter.
And I see benefit to OSM for having the address data within OSM.


The attribute of 'rental' in OSM?
I don't know, however I see no real reason why not to have it, only those 
concerned would be using that data.




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Re: [talk-au] Residential Coordinates

2017-02-05 Thread Andrew Harvey
On 6 February 2017 at 06:42, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why use Bing Maps?
>
> For OSM it would be far better to use the LIP Base map for the address data
> and then use the LPI Imagery for the building footprint.

That aside and the scraping of the original data aside, would we even
want properties currently for rent in OSM. Seems like it's best done
as an external database to OSM?

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Re: [talk-au] Another tool for finding Poke-paths

2017-02-05 Thread Andrew Harvey
On 3 February 2017 at 10:08, Graeme Fitzpatrick  wrote:
> The ones I looked at were http://osmcha.mapbox.com/45454430/ (the zig-zag
> made me wonder?) & http://osmcha.mapbox.com/45454374/ (a nice straight
> rectangular path?).

In my opinion, for the first one, it does seem plausible, it cuts
through the tree line, and they did tag it as surface=ground so it
might not be easily seen from imagery. Only way to confirm is on the
ground survey or ask the contributor via a changeset comment. The tag
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:informal could be used if it
only evolved through usage.

The second one looks more suspect, you can't even see a faint trail
from the Mapbox imagery, I would say it's too hard to tell without an
on the ground survey to confirm. Or ask the contributor what the path
there really is like.

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Re: [talk-au] Residential Coordinates

2017-02-05 Thread Warin

Why use Bing Maps?

For OSM it would be far better to use the LIP Base map for the address 
data and then use the LPI Imagery for the building footprint.


On 05-Feb-17 01:59 PM, Timur Behlul wrote:

Hi All,

I have been scraping rental properties off the net for an analysis I 
am doing on Sydney. In the process I geo-coded these properties using 
Bing Maps. There are around 100,000 properties.


Would this informaiton be useful. I can I upload it to OSM even though 
I used Bing Maps to geo-code them?


Thanks,

Timur




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