Re: [talk-au] Fw: Log bollard fence tagging

[Jonathon Rossi]

I'd use "barrier=bollard" on a way, it prevents passage by some traffic but
not being continuous I wouldn't call it a fence.

Even though it is 3m long I see it a bit like those large concrete
temporary bollards (the size of a standard pallet placed by forklift) that
are used to block vehicles during big events for the safety of people.

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 2:16 PM reube...@yahoo.com 
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> I sent this to the tagging list a month ago and got no response so I am
> going to forward it here.
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> - Forwarded message -
> *Sent:* Monday, 1 October 2018, 11:17:26 pm AEST
> *Subject:* Log bollard fence tagging
>
> I am just wondering what the best way to tag barriers like this:
>
> https://timberbollards.com.au/products/brisbane-fence-log-barrier-600mm-high
>
> It is closest in design to a split rail fence however it is not a linear
> barrier (you can walk between them), and it doesn't seem right to use to
> use log bollard.
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[talk-au] Fw: Log bollard fence tagging

[reube...@yahoo.com]

 I sent this to the tagging list a month ago and got no response so I am going 
to forward it here.

   - Forwarded message -Sent: Monday, 1 October 2018, 11:17:26 pm 
AESTSubject: Log bollard fence tagging
 I am just wondering what the best way to tag barriers like this:
https://timberbollards.com.au/products/brisbane-fence-log-barrier-600mm-high

It is closest in design to a split rail fence however it is not a linear 
barrier (you can walk between them), and it doesn't seem right to use to use 
log bollard.
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Re: [talk-au] Correcting inland water features

[Joel H.]

I noticed this dataset too, but could never figure out how to open it
with JOSM.

Andrew Harvey, have you checked out these files? And do you have any
plans to convert them?


If we plan on doing a wider scale import I would suggest separating each
stream into its own .osm file so we could check each waterway and make a
decision to replace or not.


On 30/10/18 10:25 pm, nwastra wrote:
> /Hi/
> /Regarding GeoScience Australia Surface Hydrology datasets /
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Data_Catalogue 
> https://ecat.ga.gov.au/geonetwork/srv/eng/catalog.search?node=srv#/metadata/1186e898-14b5-812e-e053-10a3070a76f0'
>   and the polygons and points layers
> The watercources are flagged as perennial or not.
> Should all non-perennial be tagged as intermittent?
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Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

[Joel H.]

Thanks for expressing interest!

The integration will mostly involve... (and I'm going to specify this on
the wiki when I get a chance.)

- Changing the place=* tags on the boundaries to match the nodes that
are already in OSM (e.g. Gold Coast should be changed from
place=municipality to place=city)

- Adding the nodes into the relation with the role being set to "label"
(example:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6070036#map=14/-28.3297/153.3821)

- Reconsider the placement of the node (make sure it is over the town
centre)

- Add a place=* node if one is missing

- Reconsider the place=* value (Is it really a village or a suburb? Is
it really a city or is it a town?)


The biggest issue with iD is that it won't load big areas very well. But
if you can deal with that help would be excellent.

Again I will add this plan to the wiki when I get a chance.


On 31/10/18 6:37 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> Hi Joel
>
> Happy to help with Gold Coast area if there's anything I can do.
>
> I only use iD though, not JOSM, so don't know if that's a problem?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
>
> On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 at 21:13, Joel H.  > wrote:
>
> I've put my self down for integration in QLD. 
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Re: [talk-au] Correcting inland water features

[Andrew Harvey]

On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 06:53, Andrew Davidson  wrote:
> Perennial streams are pretty rare in Australia. If you used the literal never 
> stops flowing definition, there would be almost none.

Downstream of dams are commonly perennial since the dam will often let
through a constant flow to maintain creek health.

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Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

Hi Joel

Happy to help with Gold Coast area if there's anything I can do.

I only use iD though, not JOSM, so don't know if that's a problem?

Thanks

Graeme


On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 at 21:13, Joel H.  wrote:

> I've put my self down for integration in QLD.
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Re: [talk-au] Correcting inland water features

[Andrew Davidson]

On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 00:05 nwastra,  wrote:

>
> *Should all those flagged as non-perennial be tagged as intermittent?
>

Yes.

Seems to be too few perennial but as others have mentioned Australian
> watercourses are predominantly intermittent.


Perennial streams are pretty rare in Australia. If you used the literal
never stops flowing definition, there would be almost none.

>
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Re: [talk-au] Correcting inland water features

[nwastra]

More specifically...

The watercourses are flagged as perennial or non-perennial or null

*Should all those flagged as non-perennial be tagged as intermittent?

Seems to be too few perennial but as others have mentioned Australian 
watercourses are predominantly intermittent.
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[talk-au] Correcting inland water features

[nwastra]

Hi
Regarding GeoScience Australia Surface Hydrology datasets 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Data_Catalogue 
 
https://ecat.ga.gov.au/geonetwork/srv/eng/catalog.search?node=srv#/metadata/1186e898-14b5-812e-e053-10a3070a76f0'
 

  and the polygons and points layers

The watercources are flagged as perennial or not.
Should all non-perennial be tagged as intermittent?

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Re: [talk-au] PSMA Administrative Boundaries

[Joel H.]

I have edited the wiki with a table relating to the team approach, It's
rough but it shows who is doing what.

I have enlisted Andrew Harvey as the uploader/account holder. I've put
my self down for integration in QLD. I'm hoping that others can handle
integration in their own states and put names down on the wiki.

Thanks!

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/PSMA_Admin_Boundaries#Team_Approach

On 23/10/18 10:25 am, Andrew Harvey wrote:
> I see, thanks. It's in the original non-simplified files too. It can
> be manually fixed, but just adding a shared node is not the right fix,
> we need to snap the nodes and then removed the shared ways.
>
> We should be able to fix this in the processing scripts by increasing
> the tolerance that things get snapped together. In this case here, the
> two ways/nodes are 0.1m apart.
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 at 12:33, Joel H.  wrote:
>> On 19/10/18 5:01 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a problem with crossing ways? Why do they need a shared node
>>> when they are different admin levels?
>>
>> Yes jump to the position I told you and zoom right in to the
>> intersection, there is a crossover between two level 10 admin areas.
>>
>> I don't know if this was introduced in the simplification or it was an
>> error with PSMA. But there is only 26 of these errors in QLD so I would
>> hardly call this an issue, you can easily fix these manually.
>>
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