Re: [talk-au] NSW LPI address import

[David Wales]

I've fixed all the bugs I know about in the script now.
I have included an updated README in the same branch as the bug fixes
for the script, so they will all arrive together when it is merged.

On 18/2/19 10:47 am, Dion Moult wrote:
> G'day Joel!
> 
> Yes, suburbs sit in that folder for a minimum of 2 weeks to allow peer
> comments, and then we upload if there are no issues.
> 
> You can read more here:
> 
> https://gitlab.com/dionmoult/osm-nsw-address-import
> 
> daviewales is working on some great scripts to improve the import
> process, so we might need to update the README :)
> 
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> 
>  Original Message 
> On 17 Feb. 2019, 11:55 pm, Joel H. < jo...@disroot.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> If all is well with the data, Do we upload?
> 
> P.S. I'm still in the middle of Brisbane City's import, so I can't
> help right now, But I'll jump in later in the month.
> 
> 
> On 11/2/19 7:28 am, Dion Moult wrote:
>> Hey talk-au,
>>
>> This is just a reminder that the NSW LPI address import project is
>> still going on, and that you can review any datasets in the
>> following repo. Some of the manual steps have been automated a
>> little bit more thanks to great work by David Wales, but it is
>> still a human review process at the end of the day so we are doing
>> a bit here a bit there.
>>
>> https://gitlab.com/dionmoult/osm-nsw-address-import/tree/master/review
>>
>> Gitlab has a subscribe feature somewhere I think.
>>
>> A list of suburbs that are currently in the review directory are
>> as follows:
>>
>> Camellia, Concord West, Denistone East, Denistone West, Denistone,
>> East Ryde, Galston, Harris Park, Liberty Grove, Meadowbank,
>> Melrose Park, Newington, North Ryde, Tahmoor.
>>
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>>
>>
>>  Original Message 
>> On 18 Dec. 2018, 11:07 pm, David Wales < daviewa...@disroot.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks Dion,
>>
>> I'll get back to the repo in the next day or so. I had a quick
>> look, and it seemed pretty comprehensive, but I haven't had a
>> chance to try it out yet.
>>
>> Andrew, I could make a custom OsmAnd map with address data,
>> but it would spoil the point of using OsmAnd for me! I use it
>> because it motivates me to improve Open Street Map!
>>
>> On 18 December 2018 12:05:28 am AEDT, Andrew Harvey
>>  wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 at 23:38, Dion Moult  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I also use OsmAnd a lot and lack of addresses is a big
>> bugbear! Admittedly sometimes I cheat and search for
>> the address on an app called "Transportr" on the
>> F-Droid store before I do my routing in OsmAnd, but I
>> digress. 
>>
>>
>> You could process the GNAF address points data into OsmAnd using 
>> [1]
>> and [2], so you get full address support without needing to 
>> actually
>> import anything into OSM. I did this and it works okay.
>>
>> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OsmAndMapCreator
>> [2] https://github.com/openaddresses/oa2osm
>> 
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Re: [talk-au] Links with name

[cleary]

This makes good sense to me.



On Sun, 17 Feb 2019, at 11:54 PM, Joel H. wrote:
> Linking roads should (generally speaking) never have names, an update to the 
> ID editor now displays Destination instead of name for input. My suggestion 
> would be to change the Offramp prefixes to:


> destination= The places mentioned on the exit sign


> destination:street= The road name that is at the end


> destination:ref= The road ref that is at the end


> destination:network= Only if destination road has a network tag.


> This is what I've been doing, What does everyone think?


> 


> On 12/2/19 5:22 pm, Petra Rajka - (p) wrote:
>> Hi,


>>  


>> During our mapping in Australia we’ve discovered that several road links 
>> have name. Usually there are 3 cases:


>>1. links take name from the upcoming road with the extra 
>> Onramp/Offramp/Exit prefix
>> ex. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/4972970


>>1. links take name from the upcoming road exactly as it is
>> ex. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/15958927


>>1. links (or other way categories) between dual carriageways take the 
>> name from one of the adjacent roads
>> ex. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/172829556


>>  


>> In our mapping process we use this wiki page:  
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_link where it’s specified that 
>> links shouldn’t have name, so we are wondering if there are any local 
>> rules/conventions regarding this in Australia? Should the links have name? 
>> It’s a particularity we didn’t found until now.


>>  


>> Best regards,


>> Petra


>>  


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Re: [talk-au] NSW LPI address import

[Dion Moult]

G'day Joel!

Yes, suburbs sit in that folder for a minimum of 2 weeks to allow peer 
comments, and then we upload if there are no issues.

You can read more here:

https://gitlab.com/dionmoult/osm-nsw-address-import

daviewales is working on some great scripts to improve the import process, so 
we might need to update the README :)

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On 17 Feb. 2019, 11:55 pm, Joel H. wrote:

> If all is well with the data, Do we upload?
>
> P.S. I'm still in the middle of Brisbane City's import, so I can't help right 
> now, But I'll jump in later in the month.
>
> On 11/2/19 7:28 am, Dion Moult wrote:
>
>> Hey talk-au,
>>
>> This is just a reminder that the NSW LPI address import project is still 
>> going on, and that you can review any datasets in the following repo. Some 
>> of the manual steps have been automated a little bit more thanks to great 
>> work by David Wales, but it is still a human review process at the end of 
>> the day so we are doing a bit here a bit there.
>>
>> https://gitlab.com/dionmoult/osm-nsw-address-import/tree/master/review
>>
>> Gitlab has a subscribe feature somewhere I think.
>>
>> A list of suburbs that are currently in the review directory are as follows:
>>
>> Camellia, Concord West, Denistone East, Denistone West, Denistone, East 
>> Ryde, Galston, Harris Park, Liberty Grove, Meadowbank, Melrose Park, 
>> Newington, North Ryde, Tahmoor.
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail mobile
>>
>>  Original Message 
>> On 18 Dec. 2018, 11:07 pm, David Wales < daviewa...@disroot.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Dion,
>>>
>>> I'll get back to the repo in the next day or so. I had a quick look, and it 
>>> seemed pretty comprehensive, but I haven't had a chance to try it out yet.
>>>
>>> Andrew, I could make a custom OsmAnd map with address data, but it would 
>>> spoil the point of using OsmAnd for me! I use it because it motivates me to 
>>> improve Open Street Map!
>>>
>>> On 18 December 2018 12:05:28 am AEDT, Andrew Harvey 
>>> [](mailto:andrew.harv...@gmail.com) wrote:
>>>
 On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 at 23:38, Dion Moult
 [](mailto:d...@thinkmoult.com)
 wrote:

> I also use OsmAnd a lot and lack of addresses is a big bugbear! Admittedly
> sometimes I cheat and search for the address on an app called 
> "Transportr" on
> the F-Droid store before I do my routing in OsmAnd, but I digress.

 You could process the GNAF address points data into OsmAnd using [1]
 and [2], so you get full address support without needing to actually
 import anything into OSM. I did this and it works okay.

 [1]
 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OsmAndMapCreator
 [2]
 https://github.com/openaddresses/oa2osm
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Re: [talk-au] Turn lanes review

[David Wales]

Thanks Joel,

I was using 'Lane and road attributes', but I see that 'Enhanced lane
and road attributes' is different. I'll try it out.

Regards,
David Wales

On 18/2/19 12:06 am, Joel H. wrote:
> Are you using Map Paint styles in JOSM? These help you visually see what
> your road tags are doing.
> 
> "Enhanced Lane and road attributes" is the one you want, It's under View
>> Map Paint Style > Preferences
> 
> I don't know if it would be helpful in this situation, or if you already
> use it. But it has helped me a great deal :)
> 
> On 7/2/19 3:18 pm, David Wales wrote:
>> Dear Australian Mappers,
>>
>> I have completed my first attempt at adding lane and turn:lane tagging
>> to a freeway intersection. However, I'm not entirely confident that I'm
>> doing it right!
>>
>> Please help me to fix any issues before I upload it!
>> Here is a link to the changeset:
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/zvq48ml34bcc6y6/Picton%20Road%20Freeway%20Turnlanes.osm.zip?dl=0
>>
>> Regards,
>> David Wales
>>
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Re: [talk-au] NSW LPI address import

[David Wales]

Hi Joel,

If the data has been available for review for at least two weeks, feel free to 
upload it after reviewing it.

Then, move the file to the 'uploaded' directory, and submit a merge request so 
we can keep track of everything.

If you need to make small changes, please include those in the merge request, 
so the 'uploaded' directory matches what was actually uploaded.

Regards,
David Wales

On 17 February 2019 11:55:37 pm AEDT, "Joel H."  wrote:
>If all is well with the data, Do we upload?
>
>P.S. I'm still in the middle of Brisbane City's import, so I can't help
>right now, But I'll jump in later in the month.
>
>
>On 11/2/19 7:28 am, Dion Moult wrote:
>> Hey talk-au,
>>
>> This is just a reminder that the NSW LPI address import project is
>> still going on, and that you can review any datasets in the following
>> repo. Some of the manual steps have been automated a little bit more
>> thanks to great work by David Wales, but it is still a human review
>> process at the end of the day so we are doing a bit here a bit there.
>>
>>
>https://gitlab.com/dionmoult/osm-nsw-address-import/tree/master/review
>>
>> Gitlab has a subscribe feature somewhere I think.
>>
>> A list of suburbs that are currently in the review directory are as
>> follows:
>>
>> Camellia, Concord West, Denistone East, Denistone West, Denistone,
>> East Ryde, Galston, Harris Park, Liberty Grove, Meadowbank, Melrose
>> Park, Newington, North Ryde, Tahmoor.
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail mobile
>>
>>
>>
>>  Original Message 
>> On 18 Dec. 2018, 11:07 pm, David Wales < daviewa...@disroot.org>
>wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks Dion,
>>
>> I'll get back to the repo in the next day or so. I had a quick
>> look, and it seemed pretty comprehensive, but I haven't had a
>> chance to try it out yet.
>>
>> Andrew, I could make a custom OsmAnd map with address data, but
>it
>> would spoil the point of using OsmAnd for me! I use it because it
>> motivates me to improve Open Street Map!
>>
>> On 18 December 2018 12:05:28 am AEDT, Andrew Harvey
>>  wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 at 23:38, Dion Moult
> wrote:
>>
>> I also use OsmAnd a lot and lack of addresses is a big
>> bugbear! Admittedly sometimes I cheat and search for the
>> address on an app called "Transportr" on the F-Droid
>store
>> before I do my routing in OsmAnd, but I digress. 
>>
>>
>> You could process the GNAF address points data into OsmAnd
>using [1]
>> and [2], so you get full address support without needing to
>actually
>> import anything into OSM. I did this and it works okay.
>>
>> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OsmAndMapCreator
>> [2] https://github.com/openaddresses/oa2osm
>>
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Re: [talk-au] Turn lanes review

[Joel H.]

Are you using Map Paint styles in JOSM? These help you visually see what
your road tags are doing.

"Enhanced Lane and road attributes" is the one you want, It's under View
> Map Paint Style > Preferences

I don't know if it would be helpful in this situation, or if you already
use it. But it has helped me a great deal :)

On 7/2/19 3:18 pm, David Wales wrote:
> Dear Australian Mappers,
>
> I have completed my first attempt at adding lane and turn:lane tagging
> to a freeway intersection. However, I'm not entirely confident that I'm
> doing it right!
>
> Please help me to fix any issues before I upload it!
> Here is a link to the changeset:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/zvq48ml34bcc6y6/Picton%20Road%20Freeway%20Turnlanes.osm.zip?dl=0
>
> Regards,
> David Wales
>
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Re: [talk-au] NSW LPI address import

[Joel H.]

If all is well with the data, Do we upload?

P.S. I'm still in the middle of Brisbane City's import, so I can't help
right now, But I'll jump in later in the month.


On 11/2/19 7:28 am, Dion Moult wrote:
> Hey talk-au,
>
> This is just a reminder that the NSW LPI address import project is
> still going on, and that you can review any datasets in the following
> repo. Some of the manual steps have been automated a little bit more
> thanks to great work by David Wales, but it is still a human review
> process at the end of the day so we are doing a bit here a bit there.
>
> https://gitlab.com/dionmoult/osm-nsw-address-import/tree/master/review
>
> Gitlab has a subscribe feature somewhere I think.
>
> A list of suburbs that are currently in the review directory are as
> follows:
>
> Camellia, Concord West, Denistone East, Denistone West, Denistone,
> East Ryde, Galston, Harris Park, Liberty Grove, Meadowbank, Melrose
> Park, Newington, North Ryde, Tahmoor.
>
> Sent from ProtonMail mobile
>
>
>
>  Original Message 
> On 18 Dec. 2018, 11:07 pm, David Wales < daviewa...@disroot.org> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Dion,
>
> I'll get back to the repo in the next day or so. I had a quick
> look, and it seemed pretty comprehensive, but I haven't had a
> chance to try it out yet.
>
> Andrew, I could make a custom OsmAnd map with address data, but it
> would spoil the point of using OsmAnd for me! I use it because it
> motivates me to improve Open Street Map!
>
> On 18 December 2018 12:05:28 am AEDT, Andrew Harvey
>  wrote:
>
> On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 at 23:38, Dion Moult  wrote:
>
> I also use OsmAnd a lot and lack of addresses is a big
> bugbear! Admittedly sometimes I cheat and search for the
> address on an app called "Transportr" on the F-Droid store
> before I do my routing in OsmAnd, but I digress. 
>
>
> You could process the GNAF address points data into OsmAnd using [1]
> and [2], so you get full address support without needing to actually
> import anything into OSM. I did this and it works okay.
>
> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OsmAndMapCreator
> [2] https://github.com/openaddresses/oa2osm
> 
> 
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Re: [talk-au] Links with name

[Joel H.]

Linking roads should (generally speaking) never have names, an update to
the ID editor now displays Destination instead of name for input. My
suggestion would be to change the Offramp prefixes to:

destination= The places mentioned on the exit sign

destination:street= The road name that is at the end

destination:ref= The road ref that is at the end

destination:network= Only if destination road has a network tag.

This is what I've been doing, What does everyone think?


On 12/2/19 5:22 pm, Petra Rajka - (p) wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>  
>
> During our mapping in Australia we’ve discovered that several road
> links have name. Usually there are 3 cases:
>
>  1. links take name from the upcoming road with the extra
> Onramp/Offramp/Exit prefix
>
> ex. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/4972970
>
>  2. links take name from the upcoming road exactly as it is
>
> ex. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/15958927
>
>  3. links (or other way categories) between dual carriageways take
> the name from one of the adjacent roads
>
> ex. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/172829556
>
>  
>
> In our mapping process we use this wiki page:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_link
>  where it’s
> specified that links shouldn’t have name, so we are wondering if there
> are any local rules/conventions regarding this in Australia? Should
> the links have name? It’s a particularity we didn’t found until now.
>
>  
>
> Best regards,
>
> Petra
>
>  
>
>
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