Re: [talk-au] Murray River mapping by a newby?

2020-04-08 Thread cleary

Hi Ian

Welcome to mapping in OSM.

The Murray River area, with state border, local government boundaries, national 
park boundaries, etc as well as gradually changing river course and wetlands 
etc is probably one of the most complex areas of the OSM map. While your 
enthusiasm is appreciated, this is probably not the place the start 
contributing.

If you do wish to make changes, you need to be confident of the source of the 
data you are entering. Most of the Murray is in NSW and the NSW LPI BaseMap is 
probably the most accurate government-sourced map to which we have access and, 
in my opinion, you would need very good reasons to move the state border or 
local government/locality boundaries or national park/reserve boundaries in NSW 
from those shown in that map.  I am not familiar with the accuracy of OSM on 
the Victorian side of the state border.

Some natural features such as waterways, woods, etc might be improved using 
satellite imagery such as Bing or NSW LPI Imagery but they should not be 
confused with the official administrative boundaries as surveyed and published 
by government authorities.  It is messy when the state border, as surveyed, 
does not align with satellite imagery of the riverbank or when not all of a 
national park is covered with trees etc but we need to reflect the world as 
accurately as we can, even if it looks messy.

I like your enthusiasm and would encourage you to start mapping but not in this 
location because of its complexity.  Thanks also for asking before rushing in.  
Please start contributing but not on the Murray (or at least on the NSW side) 
until you get more experience. 

Best wishes and welcome to OSM.





On Wed, 8 Apr 2020, at 9:31 AM, Little Maps wrote:
> Hello everyone, I’m Ian, I’m new to this group and pretty new to OSM. 
> Being stuck inside for the foreseeable future, I’m keen to do something 
> useful. 
> 
> I live on the Murray River and have noticed that many sections of the 
> river along the NSW-Vic border could benefit from some extra work. In 
> lots of places, the boundaries of the river, local government areas, 
> reserves and tree cover are all mapped differently, creating a mess of 
> intertwining boundaries. I hope I’m not offending anyone who has done 
> great work on the river in the past.
> 
> I’ve got a lot of time on my hands and am happy to try to improve the 
> mapping, taking on small chunks at a time. (I imagine it’s an enormous 
> job to do it all.) However I realise that it would be easy to stuff up 
> a lot of adjoining relationships so am keen to solicit advice from this 
> sage group.
> 
> Is this a task you think worthy of working on? Is it something that can 
> be done by a relative newby? (I worked as a research scientist for 25 
> years before I retired, but not in spatial sciences, so I’m used to 
> working accurately and methodically on big projects). More to the 
> point, if the task is worthwhile, is it possible to invite a mentor or 
> two to provide advice and feedback on techniques and results before I 
> make any big changes, so the results reach your high standards?
> 
> Thanks very much for your interest, I look forward to your feedback. 
> Best wishes and stay healthy. Cheers Ian
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Re: [talk-au] Murray River mapping by a newby?

2020-04-08 Thread Edoardo Neerhut
I'm not the best to provide advice here Ian, so I'll wait for others to
chime in, but I just want to say welcome!

This is an excellent introductory email and I am sure everyone will
appreciate your considered approach to editing in OpenStreetMap and your
enthusiasm to help.

On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 19:32, Little Maps  wrote:

> Hello everyone, I’m Ian, I’m new to this group and pretty new to OSM.
> Being stuck inside for the foreseeable future, I’m keen to do something
> useful.
>
> I live on the Murray River and have noticed that many sections of the
> river along the NSW-Vic border could benefit from some extra work. In lots
> of places, the boundaries of the river, local government areas, reserves
> and tree cover are all mapped differently, creating a mess of intertwining
> boundaries. I hope I’m not offending anyone who has done great work on the
> river in the past.
>
> I’ve got a lot of time on my hands and am happy to try to improve the
> mapping, taking on small chunks at a time. (I imagine it’s an enormous job
> to do it all.) However I realise that it would be easy to stuff up a lot of
> adjoining relationships so am keen to solicit advice from this sage group.
>
> Is this a task you think worthy of working on? Is it something that can be
> done by a relative newby? (I worked as a research scientist for 25 years
> before I retired, but not in spatial sciences, so I’m used to working
> accurately and methodically on big projects). More to the point, if the
> task is worthwhile, is it possible to invite a mentor or two to provide
> advice and feedback on techniques and results before I make any big
> changes, so the results reach your high standards?
>
> Thanks very much for your interest, I look forward to your feedback. Best
> wishes and stay healthy. Cheers Ian
> ___
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[talk-au] Murray River mapping by a newby?

2020-04-08 Thread Little Maps
Hello everyone, I’m Ian, I’m new to this group and pretty new to OSM. Being 
stuck inside for the foreseeable future, I’m keen to do something useful. 

I live on the Murray River and have noticed that many sections of the river 
along the NSW-Vic border could benefit from some extra work. In lots of places, 
the boundaries of the river, local government areas, reserves and tree cover 
are all mapped differently, creating a mess of intertwining boundaries. I hope 
I’m not offending anyone who has done great work on the river in the past.

I’ve got a lot of time on my hands and am happy to try to improve the mapping, 
taking on small chunks at a time. (I imagine it’s an enormous job to do it 
all.) However I realise that it would be easy to stuff up a lot of adjoining 
relationships so am keen to solicit advice from this sage group.

Is this a task you think worthy of working on? Is it something that can be done 
by a relative newby? (I worked as a research scientist for 25 years before I 
retired, but not in spatial sciences, so I’m used to working accurately and 
methodically on big projects). More to the point, if the task is worthwhile, is 
it possible to invite a mentor or two to provide advice and feedback on 
techniques and results before I make any big changes, so the results reach your 
high standards?

Thanks very much for your interest, I look forward to your feedback. Best 
wishes and stay healthy. Cheers Ian
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