Re: [talk-au] Removing platform for bus stops Was Re: Talk-au Digest, Vol 175, Issue 22

2022-01-18 Thread osm.talk-au
public_transport=platform should not be unconditionally removed from any
highway=bus_stop. 

It should be added to any newly mapped highway=bus_stop IF that single node
is the only thing of the bus stop that's being mapped.

It should in fact be added to existing highway=bus_stop that are missing it,
after review on a case by case basis, and not as a mass edit, if that
bus_stop is the only thing that's mapped.

Where things are less clear, which will probably require some discussion to
sort out, and which is why I was opposed to the undiscussed mass edit, is
what exactly should happen when there is an actual platform present, AND it
is mapped explicitly in some way,
which I would consider the case to be here:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/471231032645910529/931073576893825064
/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/471231032645910529/931072496403370014
/unknown.png
(please consider the text I added to these images as my opinion on that
matter not as clear current consensus)

The revert of the mass edit happened because it is that, an undiscussed mass
edit, not because of the merits, or lack thereof, of the contents of the
edit. The discussion about the merits of the edit never happened because it
didn't follow the laid out process.

Cheers,
Thorsten

-Original Message-
From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, 19 January 2022 16:38
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Subject: [talk-au] Removing platform for bus stops Was Re: Talk-au Digest,
Vol 175, Issue 22


On 19/1/22 5:15 pm, Nick Hocking wrote:
> Anthony wrote
>
> "Creating new Bus Stop nodes
> Is the consensus to remove the plaform tags from new nodes?"
>
>
> I'm not sure I understand.
>
> If you are creating a new bus stop node, then there won't be any tags 
> to remove, platform or otherwise.


I think he is thinking of removing platform tags from bus stop following hte
'unauthorized addition' of them.

Basically this has already be done.


Note 1: I have changed the thread title to reflect the subject while still
containing the original subject.

Note 2: Anthony .. please clarify what the question is, thanks.






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[talk-au] Removing platform for bus stops Was Re: Talk-au Digest, Vol 175, Issue 22

2022-01-18 Thread Warin



On 19/1/22 5:15 pm, Nick Hocking wrote:

Anthony wrote

"Creating new Bus Stop nodes
Is the consensus to remove the plaform tags from new nodes?"


I'm not sure I understand.

If you are creating a new bus stop node, then there won't be any tags 
to remove, platform or otherwise.



I think he is thinking of removing platform tags from bus stop following 
hte 'unauthorized addition' of them.


Basically this has already be done.


Note 1: I have changed the thread title to reflect the subject while 
still containing the original subject.


Note 2: Anthony .. please clarify what the question is, thanks.






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Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 175, Issue 22

2022-01-18 Thread Nick Hocking
Anthony wrote

"Creating new Bus Stop nodes
Is the consensus to remove the plaform tags from new nodes?"


I'm not sure I understand.

If you are creating a new bus stop node, then there won't be any tags to
remove, platform or otherwise.
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Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 175, Issue 22

2022-01-18 Thread Anthony Panozzo
Creating new Bus Stop nodes
Is the consensus to remove the plaform tags from new nodes?





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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 01:27:57 +1100
From: Peter leGras 
To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-au] How to properly add address tags when multiple
buildings share a housenumber?
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Hi Peter,
If you are tagging unit addresses in Orange NSW, I see a lot (but not all)
of strata complexes actually have the address with unit number in the NSW
spatial services addressing theme, despite not being displayed in the DCS
NSW Base Map layer.
This is a useful data source where there is restricted access, especially
in strata.
We have a waiver to use spatial services data such as this.
https://portal.spatial.nsw.gov.au/portal/home/webmap/viewer.html?useExisting=1&layers=d3cf7c7edef14ca18248c6dc5fcaff96
Hope you find it useful.
I am mapping in the Blue Mountains and have done a bit of work in Orange. A
few nearby mappers are active in the OSM World discord server that was
mentioned recently in the talk-au list if you'd like to join us for casual
discussion.
Cheers
other Peter (2hu4u)

On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 at 23:20, Peter leGras  wrote:

> Hi Peter,
> The tag addr:housenumber does not render on non-building areas, but it is
> still useful to include on the complex lot bounds to assist geocoding. You
> can read more about this at
> https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1746
> Note that adding a node tagged with addr:housenumber at the centre of the
> complex will render on osm.org.
> If there are multiple dwellings on the complex with the same housenumber,
> you could add the addr:housenumber to every dwelling in the lot and
> consider adding addr:unit or addr:flats to each as necessary.
> Cheers
> 2hu4u
>
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