[talk-au] Turn restrictions

[Gavin Scott]

At a T intersection only school buses are allowed to turn into the stem of
the T.
Should this restriction be controlled by a relation, an access tag on the
stem, or both.

Thanks
Gavin
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[talk-au] Aboriginal art sites

[Gavin Scott]

>
> I have tagged a variety of well known art sites in Kakadu.
>
I have tagged them as historic=archeological site, documented here
 and
that is clearly approriate.
Also tagged as tourism=artwork documented here
 and I believe
this to be appropriate as they constitute public art with touristic
significance - you travel as a tourist to this area and a major drawcard is
the rock art. They are in the public space.

The issue about the sacred-ness -it is not the job of OSM to make this
call. If you think an item is too private to map (perhaps such as a farmers
internal road network) then don't map it. Tthis is the mappers call.

I don't understand the discussion about rock shelters. They are a creation
of nature and happen everywhere. Who cares whether you cook in them or
merely seek shelter from the weather. I would suggest creating rock art
takes more than a day and therefore they were all cooking sites.

Ancient art in its pure manifestation is of historic significance as well
as fascinating to many people.


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> > Are you only tagging those sites that are open & already advertised as
> > tourism sites?
> >
> > I think that would be the safest way of doing it, because they are
> > considered sacred sites, so we should be taking care to not show the
> > location of things that the local peoples may not want shown?
> >
>
> The ones I've seen mapped so far are well signposted and marked out, widely
> accepted as public knowledge.
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[talk-au] Aboriginal art sites

[Gavin Scott]

I don't think site_type = cave_painting is correct as aboriginal art is not
usually in cave.
Aboriginal art is made in all sorts of places - under rock overhangs (where
it is protected from the weather), but can also be on rock faces with no
overhang. Sometimes it is in caves.
Gavin


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>
>
>
>
> So I think,
>
> an engraving with no paint => site_type:petroglyph
> a rock art with no engraving => site_type:cave_painting
>
> with site_type:parietal_art being a valid less specific tag for both.
>
> I agree that tourism=artwork doesn't seem right, given they were not
> created for tourism in the first place, and not necessarily as artworks
> either!
>
>
> On Sun, 31 Mar 2019 at 11:14, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > Aboriginal rock engravings are tagged;
> >
> > "historic"="archaeological_site"
> >
> > site_type"="petroglyph"
> >
> >
> > What should Aboriginal painted sites be tagged?
> >
> >
> > "historic"="archaeological_site"
> >
> > site_type"= ???
> >
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> Rock overhangs (rock shelters) have been quite extensively mistagged in
> Australia as natural=cave_entrance.
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> Are there any objections to re-tagging these overhangs tagged as
> natural=cave_entrance to amenity=shelter + shelter_type=rock_shelter?
>
> Of course they would only be re-tagged where we have local knowledge or
> otherwise to verify.
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> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural=cave_entrance
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[talk-au] How to combine img files

[Gavin Scott]

I would like to send more than one routable map from this site
http://www.osmaustralia.org/garminroute.php to my gps 60csx at the same time
so I can display more than one state at a time - I live on the border of one
of the tiles.

How can I do this?

Thanks

Gavin
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