Re: [talk-au] Bruxner Motorway

2015-01-24 Thread SomeoneElse

On 24/01/2015 11:41, Leon Kernan wrote:
It may have been a few years since I've been to northern NSW, however 
this doesn't look right to me.


http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/-28.8528/153.4695

Anyone familiar with the area able to confirm there is/isn't a brand 
new Bruxner Motorway between the Pacific Highway and Casino?

I can't find any info about it.



The changeset comment This is a temporary change for capture purposes 
for new motorway (M60)  isn't promising :)


It's a relatively new mapper with relatively few changesets so perhaps 
they just need a bit of help understanding what OSM is and how best to 
visualise what they're trying to show?


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Re: [talk-au] Cycling network tag

2014-12-15 Thread SomeoneElse

On 08/12/2014 11:25, Steve Bennett wrote:



It was quite an eye opener for me earlier this year to cycle in the UK 
to discover that they really do have LCN, RCN, and NCN. And they're 
slightly different from what I expected: NCN is basically a network 
that links towns together, LCN and other stuff, but with the same goal 
of efficiently getting from place to place. RCN is a cycle tourism 
network, and follows scenic, rather than efficient, routes. (Following 
an NCN route is often disappointing...)




I think that it depends a bit where you are.  In some places NCN routes 
are essentially boring cycle motorways, but in the more interesting 
bits of the UK countryside there are places where NCN routes need more 
just than a city bike.  In those cases I'd just try and tag surface and 
mtb:scale appropriately so that cycle routers and renderers can work 
appropriately.


The cycle tourism network that I suspect that you're referring to is 
the National Byway http://www.nationalbyway.org/welcome.asp which is a 
bit of a one-off - there are other RCNs that suit different cycling 
styles and needs.


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Re: [talk-au] Automating the replacement of abbreviation of street names

2014-03-02 Thread SomeoneElse

Frank wrote:
I'm toying with automating the replacement of abbreviation of street 
names e.g. St to Street, Ave to Avenue etc.


I think that people in the USA had similar issues with TIGER data and 
created a bunch of tools to do the conversions.  It might be worth 
asking somewhere that USA folks hang out about it (maybe talk@ or #osm 
on IRC).


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[talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic

2014-02-10 Thread SomeoneElse
Just for a info, the people on the talk-gb list have noticed a number of 
edits upgrading unfinished motorways to constructed status.  The same 
user has made similar edits in Australia, the most recent of which is:


http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20479197

Are these valid (i.e. have these roads been completed ahead of schedule) 
or is there a problem here as well?


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Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic

2014-02-10 Thread SomeoneElse

Leon Kernan wrote:

Sorry guys, another one.

This change is just pure vandalism.  He's created non-existent 
freeways and roads around Ballarat.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20425446



Has anyone got any idea about the NSW ones such as:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20409456

Would it be possible to put together a list of changes that need 
reverting (or is that just everything)?


If someone more local than me wants to have a go at the reversions that 
would make sense (more likely to be able to resolve any edit clashes 
correctly), but if not I could have a go once the full list of changes 
to revert is known.


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Re: [talk-au] JOSM and losing Bing Hi Res zoom recently

2013-12-05 Thread SomeoneElse

Jason Ward wrote:


Extra / New Info.  The OSM iD (in-browser) editor is also not showing 
the Bing Hi res images (so its not just me!)  Something has happened 
recently.  I'd be interested to here from other BNE mappers because I 
am confuzzled.




Not just Australia either - someone on IRC mentioned that the highest 
zoom Bing tiles in Essex, England had disappeared earlier today.


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Re: [talk-au] Making Garmin IMG for Bushwalking - Insanity starts

2013-07-17 Thread SomeoneElse

Brett Russell wrote:
Ok the first step is getting the OSM data.  I am aware that 
http://download.geofabrik.de/ provides .pbf files but for Australia it 
is 145MB.  Bit much of a download for a mobile phone given that I am 
looking to update Tassie every week




So does anyone know where I will find a site to download a pdf format 
file for Tassie and more importantly how to do this.


I suspect that the sub-regions that got added at 
http://download.geofabrik.de/ got added because someone asked for them, 
so you could always try that!


Failing that someone who's not on a mobile phone connection would need 
to download the .pbf for Australia and then split it with Osmosis 
(http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmosis).  Given the shape of the 
state boundaries I'd have thought that simple lat/long based splitting 
would work, with only Vic/NSW/ACT being at all complicated.


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Re: [talk-au] park vs nature reserve

2013-06-25 Thread SomeoneElse

Paul Norman wrote:
It's important to remember that leisure=park doesn't apply to all parks. 


I'm guessing that the second park in that sentence is used in the 
North American national/state park sense whereas the one in the 
original question usage sounded closer to British English usage*.


However one example, Kings Park in Perth, has it's entire area as a 
leisure=park, even the maintained bushland part:


http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/4850399

This does make some sense to me as the maintenance of the bushlands part 
is surely just as artificial as the manicured lawns to the east.  The 
first English stateley home parks were very much highly engineered to 
look natural too.


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Andy

* IANA Australian, so can't particularly comment on that...


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Re: [talk-au] JOSM and OSM reliability!

2013-04-30 Thread SomeoneElse

Brett Russell wrote:

  In all very frustrating as I do more complex mapping task.


One thought that springs to mind is, the next time something seems to be 
going a bit wrong, perhaps try and talk to someone live in one of the 
IRC channels?  The main international one #osm has people in it most 
of the day (obviously mostly people from Asia and Europe during their 
day and North and South America during theirs):


http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Irc

(there is an Australian channel on that list, although I'm not sure how 
active it is).


Someone will usually be able to help with things like I'm trying to 
edit X and it doesn't seem to be working and I've just got Y error 
message.  If you don't have an IRC client there's also the option to 
connect to the most popular channels via the web (there's a link on that 
wiki page).


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Re: [talk-au] Any sensible way to establish who is changing objects?

2013-04-22 Thread SomeoneElse

Brett Russell wrote:


I am working my way around the State and noticed a few edits to tracks 
that I have put in.  The history function option in Polatch 2 is 
annoying as it gets swamped with global changes.


That sounds like you're talking about the history tab on the main site 
- it does get swamped with global changsets.


All I want to do is select an object and have the history of changes 
showing and more importantly who is doing them.  Is there a way of 
doing this?


As Leon mentioned, every object has a browse page.  You can get to it 
from Potlatch 2 (and JOSM), and also by clicking on a way in a changset 
(e.g. one of yours that edited it), or just by typing in the URL, e.g.:


http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/43429311
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/43429311/history


Other useful history functions include ITO's OSM mapper:

http://www.itoworld.com/static/openstreetmap_tools/osm_mapper.html

That allows you to monitor an area for changes to ways (but not 
unfortunately nodes, relations or any deletions)



Also, whodidit:

http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/

That monitors changes to nodes within an area.  It can provide an RSS 
feed too.


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[talk-au] Adding only part of a road to a route relation (was: network and route tags)

2013-02-03 Thread SomeoneElse

On 03/02/2013 12:22, David Clark wrote:
ie I have a route (The Mawson trail) that passes along a section of a 
fire road, but it doesn't pass along the full length of the fire road. 
How do a I select only a section of the fire road (not the full length 
of it) so I can make the relationship to the route?




You'd need to cut the fire road into 2 (or perhaps 3) and then add the 
relation to only the relevant bit.  In Potlatch (the online editor on 
the OSM website) you can do this by clicking on the node that you want 
to split it at and pressing x.


Here's an example (not in Australia, but the same principle applies):

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=53.13304lon=-1.78357zoom=16layers=C

Here Highfield Lane is split into two.  The eastern part is added to 
the relation for cycle route 54; the western part isn't.


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Re: [talk-au] Suburbs in Australia

2012-12-20 Thread SomeoneElse

Darren Burt wrote:


See the recent discussion on this list for town vs city, in the OSM 
sense.


Can you provide a direct link or forward information on this?



The list archives are here:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/

and the city thread started here:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2012-December/009710.html

Cheers,
Andy.

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Re: [talk-au] Sydney Circular Quay missing

2012-12-17 Thread SomeoneElse

Ben Kelley wrote:

Most of Circular Quay, east of Pitt St seems to have disappeared.

Seems to be change 14271851. Could someone revert this?




I've reverted it.  I'll send a polite message to the mapper - it looks 
like a I just want to create a simple map for my hotel reception


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Re: [talk-au] Question about relations

2012-07-25 Thread SomeoneElse

Adrian Plaskitt wrote:
My specific question is, when the route passes down only part of a 
way, say just a few blocks of a longer street, how do you assign the 
relation to just a few internodes. Is it necessary to split the ways 
at the nodes and then just assign the relation to the segments 
between, or is it necessary to create a new way over the top which is 
just the walking route, or is there some method that is simpler that I 
have failed to appreciate.


I'd split the way, like this:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/141369518

Here the end of Mandalay Beach Road has been split and the part of the 
road that belongs to the walking route has been added to the walking 
route relation ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/400098 in 
this case).


The result looks like this on a map designed to show long distance 
hiking routes:


http://hiking.lonvia.de/en/?zoom=17lat=-35.00144lon=116.53484

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Re: [talk-au] I feel like such a newbie

2012-07-17 Thread SomeoneElse

Brett Russell wrote:


'Java' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.


That just means that Java isn't on your path.

Where Java.exe will be will depend on your version of windows, and which 
version of Java you installed.


You'll probably find it somewhere like here:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jdk1.6.0_32\bin

or here:
C:\Windows\SysWOW64

Although (as somebody else mentioned) you can download pre-built Garmin 
maps of various types, if you want to combine various bits of data 
you'll need to roll your own at some point, and you might as well start now.


There's a bit of useful info on the OSM help site:
help.openstreetmap.org/search/?q=mkgmapSubmit=searcht=question

If you get stuck, you can also ask a new question there.

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Andy

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Re: [talk-au] I feel like such a newbie

2012-07-17 Thread SomeoneElse
FWIW recent splitter and mkgmap versions should work OK with pbf files, 
I think.


(although I still convert to .osm myself, using osmconvert: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmconvert )


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Re: [talk-au] Thoughts on co-ordinating re-mapping

2011-12-02 Thread SomeoneElse

On 02/12/2011 04:47, El Segundo Can't win wrote:


There are two types of re-mapping - on the ground re-mapping, and 
desktop re-mapping.


There's also arguably a third - re-adding edits lost as a result of 
removal of non-CT edits using notes taken at the time of the original 
on-the-ground mapping rather than just whatever imagery may be available 
(which in parts of WA at least isn't much).  The tricky bit is knowing 
when an edit that you've made (which may not be the latest edit on an 
object) has been deleted.


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Re: [talk-au] Vandalism by 99scilla111

2011-08-30 Thread SomeoneElse

On 31/08/2011 01:08, Pete Ramjet wrote:
Noticed this morning that user 99scilla111 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/99scilla111 has vandalised a 
large number of roads/buildings/etc since 12 August. It really annoys 
me when somebody goes out of their way to detroy the good work of 
other people.

I've tried contacting them to no avail.
Is it possible to remove their changesets? I only use Potlatch through 
my web browser.




I can just see the one changeset for 99scilla111 - 8994191.  Looking at 
the area in ITO's OSM mapper, there's only one more recent changeset in 
that area and it doesn't seem to overlap it, so a clean revert should be 
possible.


If you ask on the #OSM IRC channel you might get an instantaneous 
response; if not I might be able to have a go in an hour or so.


Cheers,
Andy

PS - and in case anyone is wondering whether this really is vandalism it 
certainly looks like it - changing Old Northern Road to Young 
Southern Road, and a landuse = retail with a Coles in it to tourism 
= theme_park.


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Re: [talk-au] BYO restaurants

2011-01-26 Thread SomeoneElse

On 26/01/2011 16:12, David Murn wrote:
The only issue I would have, is with the spelling of licence. Steve 
suggested licensed but as OSM is traditionally British English, 
shouldnt licenced=yes/no be used?

taginfo shows licenced=yes has 2 usages where licensed=yes has 9, so its
early enough to still rectify the discrepencies.




In British English licence = noun; license=verb, I believe:

http://www.future-perfect.co.uk/grammartips/grammar-tip-license-licence.asp

so licensed=yes is correct I think?  In American English it's 
license for both I believe.


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Re: [talk-au] BYO restaurants

2011-01-24 Thread SomeoneElse

On 24/01/2011 23:08, John Smith wrote:


Not all restaurants are licensed...

amenity=restaurant
licensed=yes/no/byo

Sounds good to me - thanks.

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[talk-au] BYO restaurants

2011-01-23 Thread SomeoneElse
Hi - quick question - what's the normal way to indicate BYO vs licenced 
restaurants?


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