Re: [talk-au] Bruxner Motorway
On 24/01/2015 11:41, Leon Kernan wrote: It may have been a few years since I've been to northern NSW, however this doesn't look right to me. http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/-28.8528/153.4695 Anyone familiar with the area able to confirm there is/isn't a brand new Bruxner Motorway between the Pacific Highway and Casino? I can't find any info about it. The changeset comment This is a temporary change for capture purposes for new motorway (M60) isn't promising :) It's a relatively new mapper with relatively few changesets so perhaps they just need a bit of help understanding what OSM is and how best to visualise what they're trying to show? Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Cycling network tag
On 08/12/2014 11:25, Steve Bennett wrote: It was quite an eye opener for me earlier this year to cycle in the UK to discover that they really do have LCN, RCN, and NCN. And they're slightly different from what I expected: NCN is basically a network that links towns together, LCN and other stuff, but with the same goal of efficiently getting from place to place. RCN is a cycle tourism network, and follows scenic, rather than efficient, routes. (Following an NCN route is often disappointing...) I think that it depends a bit where you are. In some places NCN routes are essentially boring cycle motorways, but in the more interesting bits of the UK countryside there are places where NCN routes need more just than a city bike. In those cases I'd just try and tag surface and mtb:scale appropriately so that cycle routers and renderers can work appropriately. The cycle tourism network that I suspect that you're referring to is the National Byway http://www.nationalbyway.org/welcome.asp which is a bit of a one-off - there are other RCNs that suit different cycling styles and needs. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Automating the replacement of abbreviation of street names
Frank wrote: I'm toying with automating the replacement of abbreviation of street names e.g. St to Street, Ave to Avenue etc. I think that people in the USA had similar issues with TIGER data and created a bunch of tools to do the conversions. It might be worth asking somewhere that USA folks hang out about it (maybe talk@ or #osm on IRC). Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic
Just for a info, the people on the talk-gb list have noticed a number of edits upgrading unfinished motorways to constructed status. The same user has made similar edits in Australia, the most recent of which is: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20479197 Are these valid (i.e. have these roads been completed ahead of schedule) or is there a problem here as well? Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic
Leon Kernan wrote: Sorry guys, another one. This change is just pure vandalism. He's created non-existent freeways and roads around Ballarat. http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20425446 Has anyone got any idea about the NSW ones such as: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20409456 Would it be possible to put together a list of changes that need reverting (or is that just everything)? If someone more local than me wants to have a go at the reversions that would make sense (more likely to be able to resolve any edit clashes correctly), but if not I could have a go once the full list of changes to revert is known. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] JOSM and losing Bing Hi Res zoom recently
Jason Ward wrote: Extra / New Info. The OSM iD (in-browser) editor is also not showing the Bing Hi res images (so its not just me!) Something has happened recently. I'd be interested to here from other BNE mappers because I am confuzzled. Not just Australia either - someone on IRC mentioned that the highest zoom Bing tiles in Essex, England had disappeared earlier today. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Making Garmin IMG for Bushwalking - Insanity starts
Brett Russell wrote: Ok the first step is getting the OSM data. I am aware that http://download.geofabrik.de/ provides .pbf files but for Australia it is 145MB. Bit much of a download for a mobile phone given that I am looking to update Tassie every week So does anyone know where I will find a site to download a pdf format file for Tassie and more importantly how to do this. I suspect that the sub-regions that got added at http://download.geofabrik.de/ got added because someone asked for them, so you could always try that! Failing that someone who's not on a mobile phone connection would need to download the .pbf for Australia and then split it with Osmosis (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmosis). Given the shape of the state boundaries I'd have thought that simple lat/long based splitting would work, with only Vic/NSW/ACT being at all complicated. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] park vs nature reserve
Paul Norman wrote: It's important to remember that leisure=park doesn't apply to all parks. I'm guessing that the second park in that sentence is used in the North American national/state park sense whereas the one in the original question usage sounded closer to British English usage*. However one example, Kings Park in Perth, has it's entire area as a leisure=park, even the maintained bushland part: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/4850399 This does make some sense to me as the maintenance of the bushlands part is surely just as artificial as the manicured lawns to the east. The first English stateley home parks were very much highly engineered to look natural too. Cheers, Andy * IANA Australian, so can't particularly comment on that... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] JOSM and OSM reliability!
Brett Russell wrote: In all very frustrating as I do more complex mapping task. One thought that springs to mind is, the next time something seems to be going a bit wrong, perhaps try and talk to someone live in one of the IRC channels? The main international one #osm has people in it most of the day (obviously mostly people from Asia and Europe during their day and North and South America during theirs): http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Irc (there is an Australian channel on that list, although I'm not sure how active it is). Someone will usually be able to help with things like I'm trying to edit X and it doesn't seem to be working and I've just got Y error message. If you don't have an IRC client there's also the option to connect to the most popular channels via the web (there's a link on that wiki page). Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Any sensible way to establish who is changing objects?
Brett Russell wrote: I am working my way around the State and noticed a few edits to tracks that I have put in. The history function option in Polatch 2 is annoying as it gets swamped with global changes. That sounds like you're talking about the history tab on the main site - it does get swamped with global changsets. All I want to do is select an object and have the history of changes showing and more importantly who is doing them. Is there a way of doing this? As Leon mentioned, every object has a browse page. You can get to it from Potlatch 2 (and JOSM), and also by clicking on a way in a changset (e.g. one of yours that edited it), or just by typing in the URL, e.g.: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/43429311 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/43429311/history Other useful history functions include ITO's OSM mapper: http://www.itoworld.com/static/openstreetmap_tools/osm_mapper.html That allows you to monitor an area for changes to ways (but not unfortunately nodes, relations or any deletions) Also, whodidit: http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/ That monitors changes to nodes within an area. It can provide an RSS feed too. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Adding only part of a road to a route relation (was: network and route tags)
On 03/02/2013 12:22, David Clark wrote: ie I have a route (The Mawson trail) that passes along a section of a fire road, but it doesn't pass along the full length of the fire road. How do a I select only a section of the fire road (not the full length of it) so I can make the relationship to the route? You'd need to cut the fire road into 2 (or perhaps 3) and then add the relation to only the relevant bit. In Potlatch (the online editor on the OSM website) you can do this by clicking on the node that you want to split it at and pressing x. Here's an example (not in Australia, but the same principle applies): http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=53.13304lon=-1.78357zoom=16layers=C Here Highfield Lane is split into two. The eastern part is added to the relation for cycle route 54; the western part isn't. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Suburbs in Australia
Darren Burt wrote: See the recent discussion on this list for town vs city, in the OSM sense. Can you provide a direct link or forward information on this? The list archives are here: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/ and the city thread started here: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2012-December/009710.html Cheers, Andy. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Sydney Circular Quay missing
Ben Kelley wrote: Most of Circular Quay, east of Pitt St seems to have disappeared. Seems to be change 14271851. Could someone revert this? I've reverted it. I'll send a polite message to the mapper - it looks like a I just want to create a simple map for my hotel reception Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Question about relations
Adrian Plaskitt wrote: My specific question is, when the route passes down only part of a way, say just a few blocks of a longer street, how do you assign the relation to just a few internodes. Is it necessary to split the ways at the nodes and then just assign the relation to the segments between, or is it necessary to create a new way over the top which is just the walking route, or is there some method that is simpler that I have failed to appreciate. I'd split the way, like this: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/141369518 Here the end of Mandalay Beach Road has been split and the part of the road that belongs to the walking route has been added to the walking route relation ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/400098 in this case). The result looks like this on a map designed to show long distance hiking routes: http://hiking.lonvia.de/en/?zoom=17lat=-35.00144lon=116.53484 Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] I feel like such a newbie
Brett Russell wrote: 'Java' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. That just means that Java isn't on your path. Where Java.exe will be will depend on your version of windows, and which version of Java you installed. You'll probably find it somewhere like here: C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jdk1.6.0_32\bin or here: C:\Windows\SysWOW64 Although (as somebody else mentioned) you can download pre-built Garmin maps of various types, if you want to combine various bits of data you'll need to roll your own at some point, and you might as well start now. There's a bit of useful info on the OSM help site: help.openstreetmap.org/search/?q=mkgmapSubmit=searcht=question If you get stuck, you can also ask a new question there. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] I feel like such a newbie
FWIW recent splitter and mkgmap versions should work OK with pbf files, I think. (although I still convert to .osm myself, using osmconvert: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmconvert ) Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Thoughts on co-ordinating re-mapping
On 02/12/2011 04:47, El Segundo Can't win wrote: There are two types of re-mapping - on the ground re-mapping, and desktop re-mapping. There's also arguably a third - re-adding edits lost as a result of removal of non-CT edits using notes taken at the time of the original on-the-ground mapping rather than just whatever imagery may be available (which in parts of WA at least isn't much). The tricky bit is knowing when an edit that you've made (which may not be the latest edit on an object) has been deleted. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Vandalism by 99scilla111
On 31/08/2011 01:08, Pete Ramjet wrote: Noticed this morning that user 99scilla111 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/99scilla111 has vandalised a large number of roads/buildings/etc since 12 August. It really annoys me when somebody goes out of their way to detroy the good work of other people. I've tried contacting them to no avail. Is it possible to remove their changesets? I only use Potlatch through my web browser. I can just see the one changeset for 99scilla111 - 8994191. Looking at the area in ITO's OSM mapper, there's only one more recent changeset in that area and it doesn't seem to overlap it, so a clean revert should be possible. If you ask on the #OSM IRC channel you might get an instantaneous response; if not I might be able to have a go in an hour or so. Cheers, Andy PS - and in case anyone is wondering whether this really is vandalism it certainly looks like it - changing Old Northern Road to Young Southern Road, and a landuse = retail with a Coles in it to tourism = theme_park. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] BYO restaurants
On 26/01/2011 16:12, David Murn wrote: The only issue I would have, is with the spelling of licence. Steve suggested licensed but as OSM is traditionally British English, shouldnt licenced=yes/no be used? taginfo shows licenced=yes has 2 usages where licensed=yes has 9, so its early enough to still rectify the discrepencies. In British English licence = noun; license=verb, I believe: http://www.future-perfect.co.uk/grammartips/grammar-tip-license-licence.asp so licensed=yes is correct I think? In American English it's license for both I believe. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] BYO restaurants
On 24/01/2011 23:08, John Smith wrote: Not all restaurants are licensed... amenity=restaurant licensed=yes/no/byo Sounds good to me - thanks. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] BYO restaurants
Hi - quick question - what's the normal way to indicate BYO vs licenced restaurants? Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au