Re: [talk-au] Blocks of land - residential housing

2012-09-22 Thread Ben Johnson
Just on this, can someone please explain why if I search 45 Wharf Street
Forster,  the result I get back is 45, Wharf Street, Forster Keys,
Forster, 2428, 
Australiahttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=152.50084899902minlat=-32.190236816406maxlon=152.52086425781maxlat=-32.170233001709

Where does it get Forster Keys from?  That's an adjacent suburb to the
south.



On 22 September 2012 11:00, Ben Johnson tangarar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 For fast numbering, you might want to check out the technique I tried for
 Wharf Street, Forster NSW.

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.18045lon=152.51021zoom=17layers=M

 This uses the address interpolation technique. I wasn't sure at the time
 if I'd done it the right

way because nomonatim hadn't been getting updated, but since then it has...
 and I can tell you it works a treat! If you search for any valid number on
 Wharf Street Forster it will point you there with surprising accuracy.

 Just draw a parallel way from corner to corner with start/end numbers and
 tell it whether odd or even. Very nice way to quickly make the map
 massively more useable. Search the wiki for more details.

 BJ




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 On 21/09/2012, at 20:41, Leathal leatha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi

 I was just wondering what the tagging standard is for residential housing
 in
 suburbs?

 I can't find anything definitive, and most of the common methods such as
 landuse=residential is set aside for large scale areas (which is correct
 IMO).

 So, I was just wondering if there is some kind of standard that everyone
 is
 using? Or if anyone is using at all?

 I just don't like this method of numbers only:

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-19.295319lon=146.71811zoom=18layers=M

 Any help appreciated. :)

 Leathal.


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Re: [talk-au] Blocks of land - residential housing

2012-09-22 Thread Andrew Harvey
On 21/09/12 20:41, Leathal wrote:
 Hi 
 
 I was just wondering what the tagging standard is for residential housing in 
 suburbs?
 
 I can't find anything definitive, and most of the common methods such as 
 landuse=residential is set aside for large scale areas (which is correct IMO).

I ensure the residential area doesn't cross any roads. ie. just the
block. eg.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.062412lon=151.1523zoom=18layers=M

I do this because it is more accurate. The road isn't residential and so
shouldn't be covered by the area.

It is a lot simpler that way, because it is very easy to exclude the
corner shop, which is landuse=retail, or the park on the corner.

Tracing the building, or even just a center point node, you can add the
type of building as apartment, house, cabin etc.



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Re: [talk-au] Blocks of land - residential housing

2012-09-21 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Leathal leatha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 I was just wondering what the tagging standard is for residential housing in
 suburbs?

 I can't find anything definitive, and most of the common methods such as
 landuse=residential is set aside for large scale areas (which is correct IMO).

 So, I was just wondering if there is some kind of standard that everyone is
 using? Or if anyone is using at all?

 I just don't like this method of numbers only:

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-19.295319lon=146.71811zoom=18layers=M

I can't point to standards, but I can offer my preferences.

I like the address numbers, but I'd prefer that they were on the
building outlines.  Also, the addr:housenumber should also have
addr:street, iirc.

I'm not a fan of mapping property lines as shown in the untagged
ways in that area, for reasons that have been discussed amply on talk@
and talk-us@.  To summarize; we can't know or guess where the property
line is, in many jurisdictions there will be a set back from physical
objects that we can see like the road or fence.

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Re: [talk-au] Blocks of land - residential housing

2012-09-21 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 21 September 2012 20:41, Leathal leatha...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just don't like this method of numbers only:

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-19.295319lon=146.71811zoom=18layers=M

That's the way I do it.  OSM is never going to become a cadastral map
just from tracing.  The numbers are the important info.  Some people
seem to like tracing building outlines.  This looks pretty on the
rendering, but I personally don't think the effort to reward is there
when there are so many other features untraced.

Ian

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Re: [talk-au] Blocks of land - residential housing

2012-09-21 Thread Ben Johnson
Hi,

For fast numbering, you might want to check out the technique I tried for Wharf 
Street, Forster NSW.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.18045lon=152.51021zoom=17layers=M

This uses the address interpolation technique. I wasn't sure at the time if 
I'd done it the right way because nomonatim hadn't been getting updated, but 
since then it has... and I can tell you it works a treat! If you search for any 
valid number on Wharf Street Forster it will point you there with surprising 
accuracy.

Just draw a parallel way from corner to corner with start/end numbers and tell 
it whether odd or even. Very nice way to quickly make the map massively more 
useable. Search the wiki for more details.

BJ




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On 21/09/2012, at 20:41, Leathal leatha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi 
 
 I was just wondering what the tagging standard is for residential housing in 
 suburbs?
 
 I can't find anything definitive, and most of the common methods such as 
 landuse=residential is set aside for large scale areas (which is correct IMO).
 
 So, I was just wondering if there is some kind of standard that everyone is 
 using? Or if anyone is using at all?
 
 I just don't like this method of numbers only:
 
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-19.295319lon=146.71811zoom=18layers=M
 
 Any help appreciated. :)
 
 Leathal.
 
 
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