Re: [talk-au] Error with Grose Rd Faulconbridge NSW

2010-01-06 Thread Richard Colless






John Smith wrote:

  2010/1/5 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au:
  
  
I was testing the Garmin's route instructions on some familiar roads today.
Normally it says "SW on Northern Road to Roundabout", followed by "2nd exit
on roundabout" or similar. but one part came out as ""SW on Northern Road to
Northern Road", which seemed pretty meaningless. Checked the roundabout in
question - yes, it is named as "Northern Road". I've deleted the name, and
when it gets updated, I'll try that route again. Seems like a good case for
not naming roundabouts, though.

  
  
I doubt that roundabout is named "Northern Road" also most bridges
have different names than the roads, these should be tagged properly,
rather than left unnamed if there is a name :)
  

The roundabout was named as "The Northern Road" in the OSM data - the
same name as the road to the north and south of it.

Richard



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Re: [talk-au] Error with Grose Rd Faulconbridge NSW

2010-01-06 Thread John Smith
2010/1/6 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au:
 The roundabout was named as The Northern Road in the OSM data - the same
 name as the road to the north and south of it.

I meant in reality, most roundabouts aren't named, although some are.

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Re: [talk-au] Error with Grose Rd Faulconbridge NSW

2010-01-06 Thread Richard Colless






John Smith wrote:

  2010/1/6 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au:
  
  
The roundabout was named as "The Northern Road" in the OSM data - the same
name as the road to the north and south of it.

  
  
I meant in reality, most roundabouts aren't named, although some are.
  

It's not named in reality either. 



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Re: [talk-au] Error with Grose Rd Faulconbridge NSW

2010-01-05 Thread Richard Colless






Liz wrote:

  
Be brave
nothing ventured, nothing gained.
a circular way (usually)
one way (get that bit right)
highway=type
junction=roundabout
may have a name, but not often
join the other roads on
  

Following on from this and some earlier discussion about naming
roundabouts.

I was testing the Garmin's route instructions on some familiar roads
today. Normally it says "SW on Northern Road to Roundabout", followed
by "2nd exit on roundabout" or similar. but one part came out as ""SW
on Northern Road to Northern Road", which seemed pretty meaningless.
Checked the roundabout in question - yes, it is named as "Northern
Road". I've deleted the name, and when it gets updated, I'll try that
route again. Seems like a good case for not naming roundabouts,
though.

Richard



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Re: [talk-au] Error with Grose Rd Faulconbridge NSW

2010-01-05 Thread John Smith
2010/1/5 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au:
 I was testing the Garmin's route instructions on some familiar roads today.
 Normally it says SW on Northern Road to Roundabout, followed by 2nd exit
 on roundabout or similar. but one part came out as SW on Northern Road to
 Northern Road, which seemed pretty meaningless. Checked the roundabout in
 question - yes, it is named as Northern Road. I've deleted the name, and
 when it gets updated, I'll try that route again. Seems like a good case for
 not naming roundabouts, though.

I doubt that roundabout is named Northern Road also most bridges
have different names than the roads, these should be tagged properly,
rather than left unnamed if there is a name :)

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Re: [talk-au] Error with Grose Rd Faulconbridge NSW

2010-01-05 Thread Liz
On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, Richard Colless wrote:
  Liz wrote:
 Be brave
 nothing ventured, nothing gained.
 a circular way (usually)
 one way (get that bit right)
 highway=type
 junction=roundabout
 may have a name, but not often
 join the other roads on
 
  Following on from this and some earlier discussion about naming
  roundabouts.
 
  I was testing the Garmin's route instructions on some familiar roads
  today. Normally it says SW on Northern Road to Roundabout, followed by
  2nd exit on roundabout or similar. but one part came out as SW on
  Northern Road to Northern Road, which seemed pretty meaningless. Checked
  the roundabout in question - yes, it is named as Northern Road. I've
  deleted the name, and when it gets updated, I'll try that route again.
  Seems like a good case for not naming roundabouts, though.
 
  Richard
 

There are roundabouts with names - so left at Kissell's roundabout is a 
usable direction. 

I see stupid similar things on Garmin map without any special intersection eg 
Smith Road ahead when I know perfectly well I'm travelling on Smith Road 
already. It's not a helpful piece of information, and I think is more likely 
on a dual carriageway .

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[talk-au] Error with Grose Rd Faulconbridge NSW

2010-01-04 Thread Michael Hampson
Hi All,

I edited this road a few days ago and it doesn't seem to have worked
correctly.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.687934lon=150.548708zoom=18layers=B000FTFT

Is there a problem with what I did or do I need to just wait a bit longer?

Thanks,

Michael
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Re: [talk-au] Error with Grose Rd Faulconbridge NSW

2010-01-04 Thread John Smith
2010/1/4 Michael Hampson mc.hamp...@gmail.com:
 Is there a problem with what I did or do I need to just wait a bit longer?

There is nothing wrong with what you did, however the code to refresh
the cache only works on nodes, and if there is no node on a tile it
won't expire the tile, you can force a tile to be redrawn by right
clicking on the tile and view image, then add /dirty to the end of the
URL.

Then it's just a case of forcing your local image to refresh, hitting
the back button and then hitting ctrl+shift+refresh usually works...

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Re: [talk-au] Error with Grose Rd Faulconbridge NSW

2010-01-04 Thread Liz
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Michael Hampson wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I edited this road a few days ago and it doesn't seem to have worked
 correctly.
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.687934amp;lon=150.548708amp;zoom=18
 amp;layers=B000FTFT
 
 Is there a problem with what I did or do I need to just wait a bit longer?
 
 Thanks,
 
I think you either wait longer or add a /dirty tag to the end of the url.
Please map the roundabout as a roundabout, not as one of those pesky mini-
roundabout things, though.

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Re: [talk-au] Error with Grose Rd Faulconbridge NSW

2010-01-04 Thread John Smith
2010/1/4 Liz ed...@billiau.net:
 I think you either wait longer or add a /dirty tag to the end of the url.
 Please map the roundabout as a roundabout, not as one of those pesky mini-
 roundabout things, though.

I'm trying to remember where it was, some where near Lismore but it
had one of those UK roundabouts, one painted on the road...

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Re: [talk-au] Error with Grose Rd Faulconbridge NSW

2010-01-04 Thread Michael Hampson
Thanks John  Liz,

That fixed it and I now understand the issue.

Re the mini roundabout. I will have a go at it, but I didn't want to touch
it.

Regards,

Michael


On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 8:57 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:

 2010/1/4 Liz ed...@billiau.net:
  I think you either wait longer or add a /dirty tag to the end of the url.
  Please map the roundabout as a roundabout, not as one of those pesky
 mini-
  roundabout things, though.

 I'm trying to remember where it was, some where near Lismore but it
 had one of those UK roundabouts, one painted on the road...

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Re: [talk-au] Error with Grose Rd Faulconbridge NSW

2010-01-04 Thread Liz
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Michael Hampson wrote:
 Thanks John  Liz,
 
 That fixed it and I now understand the issue.
 
 Re the mini roundabout. I will have a go at it, but I didn't want to touch
 it.
 
 Regards,
 
 Michael
 

Be brave
nothing ventured, nothing gained.
a circular way (usually)
one way (get that bit right)
highway=type
junction=roundabout
may have a name, but not often
join the other roads on



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Re: [talk-au] Error with Grose Rd Faulconbridge NSW

2010-01-04 Thread John Smith
2010/1/4 Liz ed...@billiau.net:
 a circular way (usually)

Usually square or octagon seems to be common :)

 one way (get that bit right)

This should be assumed, after all, how many roundabouts are 2 way?

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