Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] OpenStreetMap is changing the licence

2011-04-07 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 11:48:55 +1000
Leon Kernan  wrote:

> >
> >
> > More importantly is it a official OSMF or semi-official LWG email,
> > or just some pro-ODbL people spamming everyone?
> >
> >  
> Pretty sure it's the last one. I received it a few weeks back, even
> through i'd put a note on my OSM user page saying i didn't want it.
> 
> I'm sure i've seen something on the OSM wiki about it, and there is
> the following on the top right of the odbl.de page:

i'm sure its spam, and I haven't received it yet, so I can't give the
sender the forks in a virtual manner

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Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] OpenStreetMap is changing the licence

2011-04-06 Thread Leon Kernan
>
>
> More importantly is it a official OSMF or semi-official LWG email, or just
> some pro-ODbL people spamming everyone?
>
>
Pretty sure it's the last one. I received it a few weeks back, even through
i'd put a note on my OSM user page saying i didn't want it.

I'm sure i've seen something on the OSM wiki about it, and there is the
following on the top right of the odbl.de page:


> If you want to ask a user about the ODbL:
>
>1. First check if the user hasn’t accepted already by clicking on the
>„H“ next to the username on this page (because this stats are only updated
>once a week) and if nobody else has bothered the user before (see the
>list in the 
> wiki
>)
>
>
>1. check the OSM user page (click on the username on this page) and the
>wiki page of the user (click on the “W” next to the username on this page)
>
>
>1. do a web search on discussions of the user about the ODbL (click on
>the “S” next to the username on this page)
>
> Please write a friendly mail, asking if the user already knows about the
> licence change, where he could read more about the topic and how he could
> accept the licence.
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Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] OpenStreetMap is changing the licence

2011-04-06 Thread James Livingston
On 7 April 2011 09:42, David Murn  wrote:

> On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 09:17 +1000, Michael Hampson wrote:
> > This came through over night.
> >
> > Is it a standard mailer going out to all?
>
> I received the same, so presumably yes.
>

More importantly is it a official OSMF or semi-official LWG email, or just
some pro-ODbL people spamming everyone?

If it's the latter, then I don't think people should be doing that. Imagine
the ruckus caused is some of the anti-ODbL people started spamming those
that had accepted saying they should change their choice to Decline.

-- 
James
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Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] OpenStreetMap is changing the licence

2011-04-06 Thread John Smith
On 7 April 2011 09:17, Michael Hampson  wrote:
>
> This came through over night.
>
> Is it a standard mailer going out to all?

That's typical pro-odbl spam that has been going out for some time
now, some people have received multiple copies of it from multiple
people.

Just another example of how this whole process is a complete debacle...

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Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] OpenStreetMap is changing the licence

2011-04-06 Thread David Murn
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 09:17 +1000, Michael Hampson wrote:
> This came through over night. 
> 
> Is it a standard mailer going out to all? 

I received the same, so presumably yes.

One has to wonder how many innocent users who dont want to be banished
from the project, simply click 'agree' or follow the link, having no
understanding of what theyre actually agreeing to, or whether they even
have the rights to relicence their changes.

To be done properly, there should have been a note added to that email
to only agree to the terms if you know your edits are 100% clean,
otherwise the liability falls back to you personally and not to the
project if its found you have contributed infringing data.  However, a
note like this would only serve to educate the users and wouldnt be an
encouragement to blindly accept, which some in control think is what
should happen.

David

>  Original Message  
>   Subject: 
> [OpenStreetMap] OpenStreetMap is
> changing the licence
>  Date: 
> Wed, 6 Apr 2011 16:09:39 +0100
>  From: 
> wicking
> 
>To: 
> mhamp...@fastmail.com.au
> 
> 
> Hi MCH, 
> 
> wicking has sent you a message through OpenStreetMap with the subject 
> OpenStreetMap is changing the licence:
> 
> ==
> Hello MCH.
> 
> As I’ve seen on http://odbl.de you’ve contributed quite a lot of data so I 
> wanted to ask, if you already know, that OpenStreetMap is asking existing 
> contributors to re-license their contributions under a new licence, which is 
> more suitable for our data. (OSM wants to change the current Creative Commons 
> Attribution Share-Alike 2.0 (CC-BY-SA 2.0) to Open Database License (OdbL) 
> 1.0.)
> 
> Maybe you’ve reasons why you did not accept it already. Perhaps you could 
> tell me.
> 
> You can read more about the licence change here: 
> http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/We_Are_Changing_The_License
> 
> You can accept the new licence here (if you’re logged in): 
> http://openstreetmap.org/user/terms
> 
> I hope to hear from you.
> Erik from Berlin, Germany
> ==
> 
> You can also read the message at 
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/read/177534
> and you can reply at http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/reply/177534
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[talk-au] Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] OpenStreetMap is changing the licence

2011-04-06 Thread Michael Hampson

This came through over night.

Is it a standard mailer going out to all?


 Original Message 
Subject:[OpenStreetMap] OpenStreetMap is changing the licence
Date:   Wed, 6 Apr 2011 16:09:39 +0100
From:   wicking 
To: mhamp...@fastmail.com.au



Hi MCH,

wicking has sent you a message through OpenStreetMap with the subject 
OpenStreetMap is changing the licence:

==
Hello MCH.

As I’ve seen on http://odbl.de you’ve contributed quite a lot of data so I 
wanted to ask, if you already know, that OpenStreetMap is asking existing 
contributors to re-license their contributions under a new licence, which is 
more suitable for our data. (OSM wants to change the current Creative Commons 
Attribution Share-Alike 2.0 (CC-BY-SA 2.0) to Open Database License (OdbL) 1.0.)

Maybe you’ve reasons why you did not accept it already. Perhaps you could tell 
me.

You can read more about the licence change here: 
http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/We_Are_Changing_The_License

You can accept the new licence here (if you’re logged in): 
http://openstreetmap.org/user/terms

I hope to hear from you.
Erik from Berlin, Germany
==

You can also read the message at 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/read/177534
and you can reply at http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/reply/177534

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