Re: [talk-au] Need help wording flyier
--- On Fri, 31/7/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: It may also be worth telling any bushwalking or 4WD clubs about the event. They may not be as nerdy as computer groups but they are likely to already have GPS units and a use for maps. I wouldn't consider 3 out of 4 of those I listed as nerdy anyway, take for example this webpage :) http://www.mugsunco.org.au/MUGSUNCO_Welcome.html Found a sunshine coast bush walking clubs, seems to be snail mail only. There seems to be quite a few 4wd clubs though, one at Nambour, another at Caloundra and another at Maleny, most only publish snail mail addresses. I doubt we will be able to get round them all by snail mail in time for the meeting, so for these groups instead of spending too much time advertising the current meet-up it might be more pertinent to come up with a different strategy. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Need help wording flyier
On Sat, 1 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: I wouldn't consider 3 out of 4 of those I listed as nerdy anyway, take for example this webpage :) http://www.mugsunco.org.au/MUGSUNCO_Welcome.html that lot are older than me! ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Need help wording flyier
--- On Sat, 1/8/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: that lot are older than me! They probably have a lot of spare time too :) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Need help wording flyier
On Sat, 1 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: There seems to be quite a few 4wd clubs though, one at Nambour, another at Caloundra and another at Maleny, most only publish snail mail addresses. I doubt we will be able to get round them all by snail mail in time for the meeting, so for these groups instead of spending too much time advertising the current meet-up it might be more pertinent to come up with a different strategy. Sunshine Coast Land Rover Owners Club Website: http://www.sclroc.org.au Email: secret...@sclroc.org.au Wide Bay Burnett 4X4 Club Website: http://www.widebayburnett4x4.com Phone: 0411 158 004 Email: ad...@widebayburnett4x4.com Rum City Offroaders Phone: 0409 796535 (Robbie Weller) Email: rumcityoffroad...@bigpond.com Cooloola 4WD Club Phone: 0418 249 799 Email: glenheat...@bigpond.com Caloundra City 4WD Club has a web form http://www.cc4wdclub.org.au/index.php?name=Contact as does Sunshine Coast Jeep Club http://www.sunshinecoastjeepclub.com/index.php?name=Contact (same designer both web sites) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Need help wording flyier
--- On Sat, 1/8/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: (same designer both web sites) Bundaberg might be bit far, dunno. I was thinking about contacting the Kingaroy LUG too. Do we have something worded to send them yet? This is the latest draft I'm toying about with -- On the 15th of August at Nambour there will be an informal social meet-up for GPS and OpenStreetMap enthusiasts. Until recently coverage of the Nambour area in OpenStreetMap was non-existent, so a meeting was proposed to try and rectify the situation. So why do we do we go to the trouble of making street data when google maps is free? There are many free maps on the internet, most of them are only for private use and must not be re-distributed. They are often not up-to-date, incomplete or contain errors which are only corrected slowly. In all those maps you don't have the original data used to create them, only images of the data. There are all kinds of fantastic things you can do with map vector data but unfortunately mapping companies usually stifle this kind of innovation due to restrictive licensing of the data. OpenStreetMap has people like you and me collecting raw data ourselves, all over the world. With our own data and software we are independent from commercial providers. Think of it as the Wikipedia of maps, everybody can take part. This is an informal social event, there are no hard and fast rules about what you can and can't talk about but there will be people on hand if you wish to ask questions. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Need help wording flyier
Probably needs to include something 4wd specific about how they can map out their favourite trails and easily share accurate maps of them with all their friends. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Need help wording flyier
Just a minor note: The tracks in the Glenrock State Recreation Area are closed to public vehicles so it's more accurate to mention that link in relation to bushwalking and MTB riding than 4WD'ing. Oh, and they're more detailed than accurate. It's a shame that the shortlink links are so cryptic. It would be nice if they were something a bit more user friendly such as a series of digits but we can't do anything about that. Also, I think the 5th paragraph would read better if the 2nd sentence read ...stifle this kind of innovation due to restrictive licensing. as the phrase of the data is used at the end of both sentences in that paragraph. In the last paragraph giving contact details it's probably better to write in 3rd person rather than 1st. ie: change ...or contact me directly... to ...or contact John directly Overall it looks good though. Love the road painting graphic :). - Original Message - From: John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009 11:45 pm Subject: Re: [talk-au] Need help wording flyier To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Thanks to Liz for the layout, here's the current draft: http://maps.bigtincan.com/data/nambour_flier.pdf ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Need help wording flyier
On Sun, 2 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: I only just thought of it, but I probably need to include a suitable copyright notice to, as this graphic and other info was a modified version of what others have already done. anything that started off from me is free to use ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Need help wording flyier
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: anything that started off from me is free to use Thanks for making that explicit, I just put a short All images and text from OpenStreetMap CC-BY-SA 2.0 at the bottom along with the cc-by-sa image. /butt covered ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Need help wording flyier
Currently thinking of doing up a simple flier and/or text based email to send out to clubs/user groups in and around the sunshine coast to promote the mapping party to those that may not be aware of OSM, or may have seen the map when it was a blank canvas, or to just generate some interest in OSM even if people may not be able to attend on the day. I just realised that 2 weeks away was probably a little soon to do this kind of promotional type work but oh well thems the breaks. Also I've sent off for a quote on a vinyl sign I can stick up so I don't look a complete dork waiting round in maccas for everyone to figure out where everyone is :) There is a couple of places around Gympie that do signs, otherwise there is always plenty of businesses on the Sunshine Coast next week I can ring round. In any case help with a flier would be nice :) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Need help wording flyier
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:06 PM, John Smithdelta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: Currently thinking of doing up a simple flier and/or text based email to send out to clubs/user groups in and around the sunshine coast to promote the mapping party to those that may not be aware of OSM, or may have seen the map when it was a blank canvas, or to just generate some interest in OSM even if people may not be able to attend on the day. I'm guessing you've already checked out the links from http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Recruitment_Poster ? e.g. http://ajr.hopto.org/osm/pr/OSMFlyer-English.pdf ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Need help wording flyier
--- On Fri, 31/7/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: I'm guessing you've already checked out the links from http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Recruitment_Poster ? e.g. http://ajr.hopto.org/osm/pr/OSMFlyer-English.pdf Yup, but I've sort of have 2 conflicting goals here, on one hand I need to explain what OSM is, on the other I need to tell them that there is a mapping party in Nambour on the 15th in the most terse way possible, so that people will actually read it. I pieced together the following, but it is much too verbose at present. === We would like to bring to your attention, an informal social meetup for GPS and OpenStreetMap enthusiests on the 15th of August at Nambour. This is an informal social event, there is no hard and fast rules about what you can and can't talk about but there will be people on hand if you wish to ask questions. Until recently the coverage of Nambour in OpenStreetMap was very poor so a meeting was proposed to try and rectify the situation. So why do we do we go to the trouble of making street data when google maps is free? There are many free maps on the Internet,most of them are only for private use and must not be re-distributed. They are often not up-to-date and incomplete or contain errors which are only corrected slowly. In all those maps you don't have the original data to create them, only images of the data. There are all kinds of fantastic things you can do with map vector data but unfortunately mapping companies usually stifle this kind of innovation due to restrictive licensing of the data. OpenStreetMap has people like you and me collecting raw data themselves, all over the world, sometimes as a team. With our own data an our own software we are independent from commercial providers. As in Wikipedia, everybody can take part. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Need help wording flyier
--- On Fri, 31/7/09, ed...@billiau.net ed...@billiau.net wrote: My motto is Do something useful with your GPS I'm at work, and for once its a little quiet (hurray) but I'll rewrite that tonight so you can look at another version There is 3 groups of computer users I had in mind: Noosa Linux Users Group Sunshine Coast Computers Club Macintosh Users Group Sunshine Coast Which reminded me that Gympie has a computer users group, but I doubt I'd be able to get anything sorted by tomorrow when their next meeting is. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Need help wording flyier
--- On Fri, 31/7/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: It may also be worth telling any bushwalking or 4WD clubs about the event. They may not be as nerdy as computer groups but they are likely to already have GPS units and a use for maps. Would love to, the trouble is lesser nerdy groups don't always have web pages. However once something is more or less fomralised I'll try to hunt down some outdoorsy groups to mail off to as well. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
