Re: [talk-au] State names

[Andrew Davidson]

On 25/6/18 08:42, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:

Just looking at addresses I've loaded without "is_in", & they all seem to
show as Whatever Address, without a Suburb / Town, but with "Enclosing
Features" - State Boundary: Queensland?


See:

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2016-August/076596.html

is_in tags are a bit of a waste of time see:

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2017-March/031548.html

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Re: [talk-au] State names

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 at 18:42, Michael Collinson  wrote:

> Randomly looking at Queensland as place=state, I see that ref=QLD is
> already set as well as short_name, so there is a link that can be used in
> computational processing.
>
Thanks for that confirmation Mike - QLD works for me!

> And thinking on it, perhaps there are no other active uses? I used to use
> is_in a lot, but I don't think it is in widespread use any more.
>
Just looking at addresses I've loaded without "is_in", & they all seem to
show as Whatever Address, without a Suburb / Town, but with "Enclosing
Features" - State Boundary: Queensland?
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Re: [talk-au] State names

[Michael Collinson]

I assume we are specifically talking about addr:state 
 ? If so the 
connotation is on the state as part of a postal address rather than as a 
place per se. Therefore I suggest using capitalised abbreviation and 
that the document Warin quotes is authoritative. The wiki page also 
notes that US states are similarly treated.


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr

https://auspost.com.au/content/dam/auspost_corp/media/documents/australia-post-addressing-standards-1999.pdf 



Randomly looking at Queensland as place=state, I see that ref=QLD is 
already set as well as short_name, so there is a link that can be used 
in computational processing.


https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2316595

And thinking on it, perhaps there are no other active uses? I used to 
use is_in a lot, but I don't think it is in widespread use any more.


Mike



On 2018-06-24 08:43, Warin wrote:

On 24/06/18 16:20, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:

G'day

The latest (?) upgrade to iD reformatted the address fields to suit 
Oz addresses & also introduced a State field to be entered.


Question & policy decision needed here please :-)

Queensland / Qld / QLD?

How should we be entering our State names?


Well the 'rules' for names say no abbreviations.

Much as we commonly use the abbreviations... for me the abbreviation 
is Qld.
But Australia Post wants capitals .. I suppose they are easier for the 
machines to read them?
See page 24 (26 on the PDF reader) on 
https://auspost.com.au/content/dam/auspost_corp/media/documents/australia-post-addressing-standards-1999.pdf


There you  go, an 'all ways' bet. :)
 I'd go no abbreviation.

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Re: [talk-au] State names

[Warin]

On 24/06/18 16:20, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:

G'day

The latest (?) upgrade to iD reformatted the address fields to suit Oz 
addresses & also introduced a State field to be entered.


Question & policy decision needed here please :-)

Queensland / Qld / QLD?

How should we be entering our State names?


Well the 'rules' for names say no abbreviations.

Much as we commonly use the abbreviations... for me the abbreviation is 
Qld.
But Australia Post wants capitals .. I suppose they are easier for the 
machines to read them?
See page 24 (26 on the PDF reader) on 
https://auspost.com.au/content/dam/auspost_corp/media/documents/australia-post-addressing-standards-1999.pdf


There you  go, an 'all ways' bet. :)
 I'd go no abbreviation.

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[talk-au] State names

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

G'day

The latest (?) upgrade to iD reformatted the address fields to suit Oz
addresses & also introduced a State field to be entered.

Question & policy decision needed here please :-)

Queensland / Qld / QLD?

How should we be entering our State names?

Thanks

Graeme
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