Re: [talk-au] The nearmap effect
On 9 June 2010 11:20, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Err, and just now I notice that when you press b in Potlatch, instead of creating source=nearmap, it creates a tag like http://www.nearmap.com/kh/zxy=!,!,!;. Wonder when this change happened, and is that a bug? It sure looks like it... It depends on what the background setting in Potlatch is - when clicking Edit on nearmap.com it's set to that value, but if you manually select Australia: NearMap in the Potlatch preferences it'll set source=nearmap. James ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] The nearmap effect
On 09/06/2010, at 1:20 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: Err, and just now I notice that when you press b in Potlatch, instead of creating source=nearmap, it creates a tag like http://www.nearmap.com/kh/zxy=!,!,!;. Wonder when this change happened, and is that a bug? It sure looks like it... Did you select Nearmap from the background-image setting, or use Edit on the Nearmap site? The former will get you source=nearmap as it's a potlatch setting, the latter the url because that's what passed in when launching Potlatch. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] The nearmap effect
If there's an extra URL parameter we can supply when launching Potlatch, that will specify the source string, that's an easy change that we can make. Cheers b On 9 June 2010 18:39, James Livingston li...@sunsetutopia.com wrote: On 09/06/2010, at 1:20 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: Err, and just now I notice that when you press b in Potlatch, instead of creating source=nearmap, it creates a tag like http://www.nearmap.com/kh/zxy=!,!,!;. Wonder when this change happened, and is that a bug? It sure looks like it... Did you select Nearmap from the background-image setting, or use Edit on the Nearmap site? The former will get you source=nearmap as it's a potlatch setting, the latter the url because that's what passed in when launching Potlatch. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au -- Ben Last Development Manager (HyperWeb) NearMap Pty Ltd ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] The nearmap effect
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 8:39 PM, James Livingston li...@sunsetutopia.com wrote: Did you select Nearmap from the background-image setting, or use Edit on the Nearmap site? I did use the latter method once, but the behaviour persists each time I load openstreetmap, and in three different browsers. Ah...the background image setting did get changed to custom. And it didn't reset the next time I launched openstreetmap normally. Yech. Who to blame, the way Nearmap launches Potlatch, or the way Potlatch handles being launched externally? Steve ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] The nearmap effect
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 10:56 +1000, Steve Bennett wrote: On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 8:39 PM, James Livingston li...@sunsetutopia.com wrote: Did you select Nearmap from the background-image setting, or use Edit on the Nearmap site? Yech. Who to blame, the way Nearmap launches Potlatch, or the way Potlatch handles being launched externally? Personally, Im glad that potlatch remembers the settings from last time. I dont want to have to go and select my background layer everytime I reload potlatch. Not all potlatch users like the default settings, and Im glad to know that if I make custom changes, such as typing in a background layer URL, that it will be saved for next time. David ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] The nearmap effect
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Neil Penman ianaf4...@yahoo.com wrote: Only the vast majority of these were not sourced from Nearmap (except in some of the country areas not previously covered by Yahoo). They may have been updated by somebody using nearmap imagery, mostly trivial changes, but they would have been originally created via survey or from Yahoo. Certainly names would not have been sourced from nearmap. Wouldn't it would make more sense if the source tag was only applied to changesets? Even that is not ideal as in one changeset multiple sources could be used, ie survey for names, nearmap for layout. Hmm, a source tag applied to changesets sort of makes sense, except that I find changesets very nebulous and awkward objects to work with (in Potlatch, anyway). I personally have been doing a fair bit of what you describe, in Melbourne. Mostly fixing stuff that was traced from MMBW - quite a lot of minor road realignments, new dead-ends, roundabouts etc etc. I eventually settled on changing the source=MMBW to source:name=MMBW and adding source=nearmap. Sometimes if I'm only changing a couple of points, I'll tag those nodes individually. Still, I add a lot of new stuff too: tracing landuse=retail, adding highway=cycleway, quite a few laneways, and there are still a surprisingly large number of streets missing in Melbourne. Oh, and a few major duplicated roads (eg, Nepean Highway, South Road) need a lot of work: missing service roads, missing cut-throughs, missing junctions, junctions that don't exist... Steve ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] The nearmap effect
Err, and just now I notice that when you press b in Potlatch, instead of creating source=nearmap, it creates a tag like http://www.nearmap.com/kh/zxy=!,!,!;. Wonder when this change happened, and is that a bug? It sure looks like it... Stve ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] The nearmap effect
On 7 June 2010 15:41, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.itoworld.com/product/osm/map?colour=tablestyle=_default_osm_tagsarea=4687:0sort=total-show=key_values:8 I only just discovered ItoWorld, heh. I think Ross reported the other week about almost 100,000 objects in OSM tagged with Nearmap as the source. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] The nearmap effect
On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:45:20 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 June 2010 15:41, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.itoworld.com/product/osm/map?colour=tablestyle=_default_osm_tagsarea=4687:0sort=total-show=key_values:8 I only just discovered ItoWorld, heh. I think Ross reported the other week about almost 100,000 objects in OSM tagged with Nearmap as the source. Currently from tagwatch nodes 16274 ways119647 relations 154 -- Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] The nearmap effect
On 8 June 2010 13:31, Neil Penman ianaf4...@yahoo.com wrote: Only the vast majority of these were not sourced from Nearmap (except in some of the country areas not previously covered by Yahoo). They may have been updated by somebody using nearmap imagery, mostly trivial changes, but they would have been originally created via survey or from Yahoo. Certainly names would not have been sourced from nearmap. Wouldn't it would make more sense if the source tag was only applied to changesets? Even that is not ideal as in one changeset multiple sources could be used, ie survey for names, nearmap for layout. The vast majority of the information I personally sourced as nearmap has been new content, and not just in regional areas there completely new suburbs that weren't built when yahoo imagery was taken, or I added source:location=* tags, I disagree about only setting source as part of the changeset tags, while nearmap imagery might be used for locations it isn't used for naming etc. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] The nearmap effect
Only the vast majority of these were not sourced from Nearmap (except in some of the country areas not previously covered by Yahoo). They may have been updated by somebody using nearmap imagery, mostly trivial changes, but they would have been originally created via survey or from Yahoo. Certainly names would not have been sourced from nearmap. Wouldn't it would make more sense if the source tag was only applied to changesets? Even that is not ideal as in one changeset multiple sources could be used, ie survey for names, nearmap for layout. --- On Mon, 7/6/10, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: From: Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com Subject: Re: [talk-au] The nearmap effect To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Received: Monday, 7 June, 2010, 6:44 PM On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:45:20 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 June 2010 15:41, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.itoworld.com/product/osm/map?colour=tablestyle=_default_osm_tagsarea=4687:0sort=total-show=key_values:8 I only just discovered ItoWorld, heh. I think Ross reported the other week about almost 100,000 objects in OSM tagged with Nearmap as the source. Currently from tagwatch nodes 16274 ways 119647 relations 154 -- Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] The nearmap effect
http://www.itoworld.com/product/osm/map?colour=tablestyle=_default_osm_tagsarea=4687:0sort=total-show=key_values:8 I only just discovered ItoWorld, heh. Steve ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
