Re: [talk-au] Vicmap data released on data.gov.au
Sweet, very exciting and willing to lend a hand in the import process. Also have a few contacts in Vicmap, and will email Nyall Dawson directly. What tools are available for importing data (and removing duplicates) Li. On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:00 PM, talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Send Talk-au mailing list submissions to talk-au@openstreetmap.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org You can reach the person managing the list at talk-au-ow...@openstreetmap.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Talk-au digest... Today's Topics: 1. Vicmap data released on data.gov.au (Nyall Dawson) 2. Re: Vicmap data released on data.gov.au (Ian Sergeant) 3. Re: Vicmap data released on data.gov.au (Paul Norman) 4. Re: Vicmap data released on data.gov.au (Nyall Dawson) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 09:27:15 +1000 From: Nyall Dawson nyall.daw...@gmail.com To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: [talk-au] Vicmap data released on data.gov.au Message-ID: CAB28AsgZPt3Dw4WAuwRSYA_Jm=x+3v428= v7mifeedxbger...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi all, I'm not sure if this has been raised yet, but in the last week the entire VicMap dataset was released on data.vic.gov.au under a CC-Attribution 3.0 license. This includes the entire address [1], roads [2], parcel boundaries [3], and administration boundaries [4] for Victoria. I gather by http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/data.gov.au_explicit_permission that we're OK to use data from data.gov.au for OSM. Does anyone know if this is still the case, and if so, how we could go about getting this data into osm? I'm willing to do any hard work required, but don't want to duplicate effort and first want to see if there's already any ongoing discussion about this data release. Regards, Nyall Dawson 1. http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/address-vicmap-address/748 2. http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/road-network-vicmap-transport/4877 3. http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/parcel-view-vicmap-property/2038 4. http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/locality-boundaries-property-polygon-vicmap-admin/2043 http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/local-government-area-boundaries-property-polygon-vicmap-admin/2039 -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 10:09:54 +1000 From: Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com To: Nyall Dawson nyall.daw...@gmail.com Cc: OSM - Talk-au talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] Vicmap data released on data.gov.au Message-ID: calda4yjby0bzvngqvkr3j91lzonefgu8p0x7fewr7exrtuh...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 We should send an email to the data owner to seek permission under our contributor terms. I don't think there is any relationship between data.vic.gov.au and data.gov.au, so I don't see how any permission we have is relevant to this. Ian. On 8 July 2013 09:27, Nyall Dawson nyall.daw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm not sure if this has been raised yet, but in the last week the entire VicMap dataset was released on data.vic.gov.au under a CC-Attribution 3.0 license. This includes the entire address [1], roads [2], parcel boundaries [3], and administration boundaries [4] for Victoria. I gather by http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/data.gov.au_explicit_permission that we're OK to use data from data.gov.au for OSM. Does anyone know if this is still the case, and if so, how we could go about getting this data into osm? I'm willing to do any hard work required, but don't want to duplicate effort and first want to see if there's already any ongoing discussion about this data release. Regards, Nyall Dawson 1. http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/address-vicmap-address/748 2. http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/road-network-vicmap-transport/4877 3. http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/parcel-view-vicmap-property/2038 4. http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/locality-boundaries-property-polygon-vicmap-admin/2043 http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/local-government-area-boundaries-property-polygon-vicmap-admin/2039 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/attachments/20130708/b953cea8/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 3 Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 17:28:03 -0700 From: Paul Norman penor...@mac.com
Re: [talk-au] Vicmap data released on data.gov.au
Hi Nyall, Yeah I'm quite interested to know more about this. I gather the Spatial DataMart has been around a while, so is the difference that they've published it on data.vic.gov.au and made it accessible to the public? Or is it the licensing that has changed? Might be worth having a meetup to discuss what we can do with all this data. Steve On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Nyall Dawson nyall.daw...@gmail.com wrote: All we need from them is a statement that a notice associated with the Produced Work reasonably calculated to make any Person that uses, views, accesses, interacts with, or is otherwise exposed to the Produced Work aware that Content was obtained from the Database, Derivative Database, or the Database as part of a Collective Database, and that it is available under this License (ODbL 4.3) meets the requirements of a notice reasonable to the medium. Basically, that the attribution required by the ODbL is enough. Some cities have viewed CC BY's reasonable to the medium to mean every data source needs to be credited directly on a web map. Great -- this is exactly what I needed to know. I've attempted to get in contact with the appropriate person at data.vic.gov.au, I'll report back here how this goes. Cheers, Nyall Dawson ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Vicmap data released on data.gov.au
On 9 July 2013 13:51, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Nyall, Yeah I'm quite interested to know more about this. I gather the Spatial DataMart has been around a while, so is the difference that they've published it on data.vic.gov.au and made it accessible to the public? Or is it the licensing that has changed? Actually it's both - previously DataMart was only accessible by authorised users. The CC-BY license is new too.. (although I'm not sure exactly what license the data used to be under, it definitely wasn't a free license like this). Might be worth having a meetup to discuss what we can do with all this data. I'm keen for this. My request has been forwarded to the DTF, so I'll hopefully have some more info when they get back to me. Cheers, Nyall ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Vicmap data released on data.gov.au
Hi all, I'm not sure if this has been raised yet, but in the last week the entire VicMap dataset was released on data.vic.gov.au under a CC-Attribution 3.0 license. This includes the entire address [1], roads [2], parcel boundaries [3], and administration boundaries [4] for Victoria. I gather by http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/data.gov.au_explicit_permission that we're OK to use data from data.gov.au for OSM. Does anyone know if this is still the case, and if so, how we could go about getting this data into osm? I'm willing to do any hard work required, but don't want to duplicate effort and first want to see if there's already any ongoing discussion about this data release. Regards, Nyall Dawson 1. http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/address-vicmap-address/748 2. http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/road-network-vicmap-transport/4877 3. http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/parcel-view-vicmap-property/2038 4. http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/locality-boundaries-property-polygon-vicmap-admin/2043 http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/local-government-area-boundaries-property-polygon-vicmap-admin/2039 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Vicmap data released on data.gov.au
We should send an email to the data owner to seek permission under our contributor terms. I don't think there is any relationship between data.vic.gov.au and data.gov.au, so I don't see how any permission we have is relevant to this. Ian. On 8 July 2013 09:27, Nyall Dawson nyall.daw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm not sure if this has been raised yet, but in the last week the entire VicMap dataset was released on data.vic.gov.au under a CC-Attribution 3.0 license. This includes the entire address [1], roads [2], parcel boundaries [3], and administration boundaries [4] for Victoria. I gather by http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/data.gov.au_explicit_permission that we're OK to use data from data.gov.au for OSM. Does anyone know if this is still the case, and if so, how we could go about getting this data into osm? I'm willing to do any hard work required, but don't want to duplicate effort and first want to see if there's already any ongoing discussion about this data release. Regards, Nyall Dawson 1. http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/address-vicmap-address/748 2. http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/road-network-vicmap-transport/4877 3. http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/parcel-view-vicmap-property/2038 4. http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/locality-boundaries-property-polygon-vicmap-admin/2043 http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/local-government-area-boundaries-property-polygon-vicmap-admin/2039 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Vicmap data released on data.gov.au
From: Nyall Dawson [mailto:nyall.daw...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 4:27 PM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: [talk-au] Vicmap data released on data.gov.au Hi all, I'm not sure if this has been raised yet, but in the last week the entire VicMap dataset was released on data.vic.gov.au under a CC- Attribution 3.0 license. This includes the entire address [1], roads [2], parcel boundaries [3], and administration boundaries [4] for Victoria. I gather by http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/data.gov.au_explicit_perm ission that we're OK to use data from data.gov.au for OSM. Does anyone know if this is still the case, and if so, how we could go about getting this data into osm? I'm willing to do any hard work required, but don't want to duplicate effort and first want to see if there's already any ongoing discussion about this data release. All we need from them is a statement that a notice associated with the Produced Work reasonably calculated to make any Person that uses, views, accesses, interacts with, or is otherwise exposed to the Produced Work aware that Content was obtained from the Database, Derivative Database, or the Database as part of a Collective Database, and that it is available under this License (ODbL 4.3) meets the requirements of a notice reasonable to the medium. Basically, that the attribution required by the ODbL is enough. Some cities have viewed CC BY's reasonable to the medium to mean every data source needs to be credited directly on a web map. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Vicmap data released on data.gov.au
All we need from them is a statement that a notice associated with the Produced Work reasonably calculated to make any Person that uses, views, accesses, interacts with, or is otherwise exposed to the Produced Work aware that Content was obtained from the Database, Derivative Database, or the Database as part of a Collective Database, and that it is available under this License (ODbL 4.3) meets the requirements of a notice reasonable to the medium. Basically, that the attribution required by the ODbL is enough. Some cities have viewed CC BY's reasonable to the medium to mean every data source needs to be credited directly on a web map. Great -- this is exactly what I needed to know. I've attempted to get in contact with the appropriate person at data.vic.gov.au, I'll report back here how this goes. Cheers, Nyall Dawson ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
