Re: [talk-au] farm airstrips
Yeah. Complete nonsense, unfortunately. Ian. On Mon, 29 Apr 2024, 12:25 am Ian Bennett, wrote: > Hi all, > I'll put my two boobs worth in here, but my information is > extremely dated. > When I was gliding back in the 80's, we used to fly from a private > airstrip. There was no windsock > erected. > When I asked about this, I was told that a windsock implied a > public airstrip so could be used by > anyone. No windsock, no one else could use the strip (unless in an > emergency). > That said, it could be an old wives' tale just to shut the > "young'un" up. > > Ian > > On 29/4/24 5:54 pm, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > Thanks all - I'll drop that airstrip then. > > > > On 29/04/2024 10:04, Frederik Ramm wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> the DWG was contacted by the owner of some farmland about an > aerodrome=airport that was mapped on > >> their property and which they would like to have removed since it was > not a published airstrip and > >> while they occasionally used it for take-offs and landings they don't > want ir promoted. > >> > >> My standard response in cases like this would be "I can mark it > access=private but if something is > >> clearly there, I cannot remove it." > >> > >> I have checked with aerial imagery though and there is absolutely > nothing on the aerial imagery > >> that would set this "airstrip" apart from the neighbouring grassland. > Yes it looks like I could > >> land a plane there, but I could also land a plane the next field over, > or a little bit further > >> east or west - it all looks the same. I assume that there might be a > clue locally like a windsock > >> or so, but other than that, nothing. > >> > >> I'd therefore be tempted to delete the airstrip from OSM. Opinions > about that? Here's the area: > >> > >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/-38.3681/145.3901 > >> > >> Bye > >> Frederik > >> > > > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] farm airstrips
French Island is often used by flight schools as a training area for pilots due to its low population, specifically for practicing engine failures where the student will glide the plane down to 500 ft and simulating the emergency procedures before flying back up to altitude. When I was completing flight training, I was told that in the past, students were allowed to perform a "touch-and-go" (the plane lands and then takes off again without stopping) on French Island during simulated engine failure. I'm not sure if this was done only on the mapped airstrips, or on other farms too. Perhaps the airstrip in question was mapped because it was previously used by students for training. This practice isn't allowed anymore so any landing strips mapped solely for that purpose should be removed. It might also explain the "Overpass" name. Cheers, Sam On 29/4/2024 18:04, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, the DWG was contacted by the owner of some farmland about an aerodrome=airport that was mapped on their property and which they would like to have removed since it was not a published airstrip and while they occasionally used it for take-offs and landings they don't want ir promoted. My standard response in cases like this would be "I can mark it access=private but if something is clearly there, I cannot remove it." I have checked with aerial imagery though and there is absolutely nothing on the aerial imagery that would set this "airstrip" apart from the neighbouring grassland. Yes it looks like I could land a plane there, but I could also land a plane the next field over, or a little bit further east or west - it all looks the same. I assume that there might be a clue locally like a windsock or so, but other than that, nothing. I'd therefore be tempted to delete the airstrip from OSM. Opinions about that? Here's the area: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/-38.3681/145.3901 Bye Frederik ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] farm airstrips
Actually – maybe it did! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PcmFQUWZuM I will add the strip! From: Phil Wyatt via Talk-au Sent: Monday, April 29, 2024 8:38 PM To: 'Ewen Hill' Cc: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] farm airstrips The Grand Design House is not in that location – its here. As Ewen indicated it didn’t actually go ahead as a runway. https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=18/-38.40343/145.31695 From: Ewen Hill mailto:ewen.h...@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2024 7:46 PM To: Phil Wyatt mailto:p...@wyatt-family.com> > Cc: Andrew Welch mailto:m...@andrewwelch.net> >; talk-au@openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [talk-au] farm airstrips Hi all, There was a proposal of an air bnb and hangar and is next to a house on Grand Designs TV Show however the runway was never really specced for the type of aircraft that would want to use the runway. So it really is for very small or ultralights only on a 540m and 47m wide with prevailing winds, uneven surface, marine birdlife and ~3% gradient. Warin, any air evacs of the 100 are via HEMS helicopter or boat. Tyabb airport is just north of the Island and so there is probably not a lot of interest in an airfield for the 100 or so residents. I don't know if this proposal got up or as Andrew stated, it had stalled post incident or property sale. Finally, there is a barge service that runs from Corinella to nearby properties with a pier so I would personally take the extra hour and arrive safely without meeting a bin chicken or other wildlife close up at the wrong time. I'm inclined to bin chicken it Ewen On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 at 18:51, Phil Wyatt via Talk-au mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org> > wrote: May have been an eager mapper after this incident but certainly no sign of a formal or informal strip there https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/plane-flips-after-landing-gear-malfunctions-on-victorias-french-island/video/f61a249832fb86f3fad6be0aa92c3ce6 From: Andrew Welch via Talk-au mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2024 6:32 PM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [talk-au] farm airstrips Considering there's also a "hanger" there that doesn't seem to be visible on any aerial imagery I just checked, I'm in favour of deleting it. It just doesn't seem to actually exist, and I question where the name came from. --- Thanks, Andrew Welch m...@andrewwelch.net <mailto:m...@andrewwelch.net> On 29/04/2024 5:34 pm, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, the DWG was contacted by the owner of some farmland about an aerodrome=airport that was mapped on their property and which they would like to have removed since it was not a published airstrip and while they occasionally used it for take-offs and landings they don't want ir promoted. My standard response in cases like this would be "I can mark it access=private but if something is clearly there, I cannot remove it." I have checked with aerial imagery though and there is absolutely nothing on the aerial imagery that would set this "airstrip" apart from the neighbouring grassland. Yes it looks like I could land a plane there, but I could also land a plane the next field over, or a little bit further east or west - it all looks the same. I assume that there might be a clue locally like a windsock or so, but other than that, nothing. I'd therefore be tempted to delete the airstrip from OSM. Opinions about that? Here's the area: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/-38.3681/145.3901 Bye Frederik ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-au@openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au -- Warm Regards Ewen Hill ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] farm airstrips
The Grand Design House is not in that location – its here. As Ewen indicated it didn’t actually go ahead as a runway. https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=18/-38.40343/145.31695 From: Ewen Hill Sent: Monday, April 29, 2024 7:46 PM To: Phil Wyatt Cc: Andrew Welch ; talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] farm airstrips Hi all, There was a proposal of an air bnb and hangar and is next to a house on Grand Designs TV Show however the runway was never really specced for the type of aircraft that would want to use the runway. So it really is for very small or ultralights only on a 540m and 47m wide with prevailing winds, uneven surface, marine birdlife and ~3% gradient. Warin, any air evacs of the 100 are via HEMS helicopter or boat. Tyabb airport is just north of the Island and so there is probably not a lot of interest in an airfield for the 100 or so residents. I don't know if this proposal got up or as Andrew stated, it had stalled post incident or property sale. Finally, there is a barge service that runs from Corinella to nearby properties with a pier so I would personally take the extra hour and arrive safely without meeting a bin chicken or other wildlife close up at the wrong time. I'm inclined to bin chicken it Ewen On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 at 18:51, Phil Wyatt via Talk-au mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org> > wrote: May have been an eager mapper after this incident but certainly no sign of a formal or informal strip there https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/plane-flips-after-landing-gear-malfunctions-on-victorias-french-island/video/f61a249832fb86f3fad6be0aa92c3ce6 From: Andrew Welch via Talk-au mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2024 6:32 PM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [talk-au] farm airstrips Considering there's also a "hanger" there that doesn't seem to be visible on any aerial imagery I just checked, I'm in favour of deleting it. It just doesn't seem to actually exist, and I question where the name came from. --- Thanks, Andrew Welch m...@andrewwelch.net <mailto:m...@andrewwelch.net> On 29/04/2024 5:34 pm, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, the DWG was contacted by the owner of some farmland about an aerodrome=airport that was mapped on their property and which they would like to have removed since it was not a published airstrip and while they occasionally used it for take-offs and landings they don't want ir promoted. My standard response in cases like this would be "I can mark it access=private but if something is clearly there, I cannot remove it." I have checked with aerial imagery though and there is absolutely nothing on the aerial imagery that would set this "airstrip" apart from the neighbouring grassland. Yes it looks like I could land a plane there, but I could also land a plane the next field over, or a little bit further east or west - it all looks the same. I assume that there might be a clue locally like a windsock or so, but other than that, nothing. I'd therefore be tempted to delete the airstrip from OSM. Opinions about that? Here's the area: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/-38.3681/145.3901 Bye Frederik ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-au@openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au -- Warm Regards Ewen Hill ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] farm airstrips
Hi all, I'll put my two boobs worth in here, but my information is extremely dated. When I was gliding back in the 80's, we used to fly from a private airstrip. There was no windsock erected. When I asked about this, I was told that a windsock implied a public airstrip so could be used by anyone. No windsock, no one else could use the strip (unless in an emergency). That said, it could be an old wives' tale just to shut the "young'un" up. Ian On 29/4/24 5:54 pm, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Thanks all - I'll drop that airstrip then. > > On 29/04/2024 10:04, Frederik Ramm wrote: >> Hi, >> >> the DWG was contacted by the owner of some farmland about an >> aerodrome=airport that was mapped on >> their property and which they would like to have removed since it was not a >> published airstrip and >> while they occasionally used it for take-offs and landings they don't want >> ir promoted. >> >> My standard response in cases like this would be "I can mark it >> access=private but if something is >> clearly there, I cannot remove it." >> >> I have checked with aerial imagery though and there is absolutely nothing on >> the aerial imagery >> that would set this "airstrip" apart from the neighbouring grassland. Yes it >> looks like I could >> land a plane there, but I could also land a plane the next field over, or a >> little bit further >> east or west - it all looks the same. I assume that there might be a clue >> locally like a windsock >> or so, but other than that, nothing. >> >> I'd therefore be tempted to delete the airstrip from OSM. Opinions about >> that? Here's the area: >> >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/-38.3681/145.3901 >> >> Bye >> Frederik >> > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] farm airstrips
On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 7:47 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Especially with the "runway" apparently going through a tree & 2 fences! > ... and a farm dam. I've had a look at the other runways they've mapped and they almost all look OK. There is another that goes through some fences and one or two that are probably farm tracks. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] farm airstrips
Thanks all - I'll drop that airstrip then. On 29/04/2024 10:04, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, the DWG was contacted by the owner of some farmland about an aerodrome=airport that was mapped on their property and which they would like to have removed since it was not a published airstrip and while they occasionally used it for take-offs and landings they don't want ir promoted. My standard response in cases like this would be "I can mark it access=private but if something is clearly there, I cannot remove it." I have checked with aerial imagery though and there is absolutely nothing on the aerial imagery that would set this "airstrip" apart from the neighbouring grassland. Yes it looks like I could land a plane there, but I could also land a plane the next field over, or a little bit further east or west - it all looks the same. I assume that there might be a clue locally like a windsock or so, but other than that, nothing. I'd therefore be tempted to delete the airstrip from OSM. Opinions about that? Here's the area: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/-38.3681/145.3901 Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] farm airstrips
Hi... and this is the CASA public report (sadly in an old limited format) https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/1990/aair/aair199001173 On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 at 19:47, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Especially with the "runway" apparently going through a tree & 2 fences! > > Thanks > > Graeme > > > On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 at 18:36, Andrew Welch via Talk-au < > talk-au@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > >> Considering there's also a "hanger" there that doesn't seem to be visible >> on any aerial imagery I just checked, I'm in favour of deleting it. It just >> doesn't seem to actually exist, and I question where the name came from. >> --- >> Thanks, >> Andrew Welch >> m...@andrewwelch.net >> >> >> On 29/04/2024 5:34 pm, Frederik Ramm wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> the DWG was contacted by the owner of some farmland about an >> aerodrome=airport that was mapped on their property and which they would >> like to have removed since it was not a published airstrip and while they >> occasionally used it for take-offs and landings they don't want ir promoted. >> >> My standard response in cases like this would be "I can mark it >> access=private but if something is clearly there, I cannot remove it." >> >> I have checked with aerial imagery though and there is absolutely nothing >> on the aerial imagery that would set this "airstrip" apart from the >> neighbouring grassland. Yes it looks like I could land a plane there, but I >> could also land a plane the next field over, or a little bit further east >> or west - it all looks the same. I assume that there might be a clue >> locally like a windsock or so, but other than that, nothing. >> >> I'd therefore be tempted to delete the airstrip from OSM. Opinions about >> that? Here's the area: >> >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/-38.3681/145.3901 >> >> Bye >> Frederik >> >> ___ >> Talk-au mailing list >> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >> > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > -- Warm Regards Ewen Hill ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] farm airstrips
Hi all, There was a proposal of an air bnb and hangar and is next to a house on Grand Designs TV Show however the runway was never really specced for the type of aircraft that would want to use the runway. So it really is for very small or ultralights only on a 540m and 47m wide with prevailing winds, uneven surface, marine birdlife and ~3% gradient. Warin, any air evacs of the 100 are via HEMS helicopter or boat. Tyabb airport is just north of the Island and so there is probably not a lot of interest in an airfield for the 100 or so residents. I don't know if this proposal got up or as Andrew stated, it had stalled post incident or property sale. Finally, there is a barge service that runs from Corinella to nearby properties with a pier so I would personally take the extra hour and arrive safely without meeting a bin chicken or other wildlife close up at the wrong time. I'm inclined to bin chicken it Ewen On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 at 18:51, Phil Wyatt via Talk-au < talk-au@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > May have been an eager mapper after this incident but certainly no sign of > a formal or informal strip there > > > > > https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/plane-flips-after-landing-gear-malfunctions-on-victorias-french-island/video/f61a249832fb86f3fad6be0aa92c3ce6 > > > > > > *From:* Andrew Welch via Talk-au > *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2024 6:32 PM > *To:* talk-au@openstreetmap.org > *Subject:* Re: [talk-au] farm airstrips > > > > Considering there's also a "hanger" there that doesn't seem to be visible > on any aerial imagery I just checked, I'm in favour of deleting it. It just > doesn't seem to actually exist, and I question where the name came from. > > --- > > Thanks, > Andrew Welch > m...@andrewwelch.net > > > > On 29/04/2024 5:34 pm, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > Hi, > > the DWG was contacted by the owner of some farmland about an > aerodrome=airport that was mapped on their property and which they would > like to have removed since it was not a published airstrip and while they > occasionally used it for take-offs and landings they don't want ir promoted. > > My standard response in cases like this would be "I can mark it > access=private but if something is clearly there, I cannot remove it." > > I have checked with aerial imagery though and there is absolutely nothing > on the aerial imagery that would set this "airstrip" apart from the > neighbouring grassland. Yes it looks like I could land a plane there, but I > could also land a plane the next field over, or a little bit further east > or west - it all looks the same. I assume that there might be a clue > locally like a windsock or so, but other than that, nothing. > > I'd therefore be tempted to delete the airstrip from OSM. Opinions about > that? Here's the area: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/-38.3681/145.3901 > > Bye > Frederik > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > -- Warm Regards Ewen Hill ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] farm airstrips
Especially with the "runway" apparently going through a tree & 2 fences! Thanks Graeme On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 at 18:36, Andrew Welch via Talk-au < talk-au@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Considering there's also a "hanger" there that doesn't seem to be visible > on any aerial imagery I just checked, I'm in favour of deleting it. It just > doesn't seem to actually exist, and I question where the name came from. > --- > Thanks, > Andrew Welch > m...@andrewwelch.net > > > On 29/04/2024 5:34 pm, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > Hi, > > the DWG was contacted by the owner of some farmland about an > aerodrome=airport that was mapped on their property and which they would > like to have removed since it was not a published airstrip and while they > occasionally used it for take-offs and landings they don't want ir promoted. > > My standard response in cases like this would be "I can mark it > access=private but if something is clearly there, I cannot remove it." > > I have checked with aerial imagery though and there is absolutely nothing > on the aerial imagery that would set this "airstrip" apart from the > neighbouring grassland. Yes it looks like I could land a plane there, but I > could also land a plane the next field over, or a little bit further east > or west - it all looks the same. I assume that there might be a clue > locally like a windsock or so, but other than that, nothing. > > I'd therefore be tempted to delete the airstrip from OSM. Opinions about > that? Here's the area: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/-38.3681/145.3901 > > Bye > Frederik > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] farm airstrips
On 29/4/24 18:31, Andrew Welch via Talk-au wrote: Considering there's also a "hanger" there that doesn't seem to be visible on any aerial imagery I just checked, I'm in favour of deleting it. It just doesn't seem to actually exist, and I question where the name came from. Way: 1156139112 Edited at: 2023-03-21T20:21:19Z Tags: "aeroway"="runway" "surface"="grass" I agree, it does not seem to exist - there are 2 fence lines running through it and a tree growing in it... don't see any near it either. The mapper has made few edits, looks to be making helipad edits now... Looking at his edits they do not look to be based only on imagery ... and they are widely spread across the country. I have asked for the source on one of the more recent edits. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] farm airstrips
On farms I only map the runway as a runway not an airport. I have not resorted to an access tag... They would be used by the RFDS when required. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] farm airstrips
May have been an eager mapper after this incident but certainly no sign of a formal or informal strip there https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/plane-flips-after-landing-gear-malfunctions-on-victorias-french-island/video/f61a249832fb86f3fad6be0aa92c3ce6 From: Andrew Welch via Talk-au Sent: Monday, April 29, 2024 6:32 PM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] farm airstrips Considering there's also a "hanger" there that doesn't seem to be visible on any aerial imagery I just checked, I'm in favour of deleting it. It just doesn't seem to actually exist, and I question where the name came from. --- Thanks, Andrew Welch m...@andrewwelch.net <mailto:m...@andrewwelch.net> On 29/04/2024 5:34 pm, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, the DWG was contacted by the owner of some farmland about an aerodrome=airport that was mapped on their property and which they would like to have removed since it was not a published airstrip and while they occasionally used it for take-offs and landings they don't want ir promoted. My standard response in cases like this would be "I can mark it access=private but if something is clearly there, I cannot remove it." I have checked with aerial imagery though and there is absolutely nothing on the aerial imagery that would set this "airstrip" apart from the neighbouring grassland. Yes it looks like I could land a plane there, but I could also land a plane the next field over, or a little bit further east or west - it all looks the same. I assume that there might be a clue locally like a windsock or so, but other than that, nothing. I'd therefore be tempted to delete the airstrip from OSM. Opinions about that? Here's the area: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/-38.3681/145.3901 Bye Frederik ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] farm airstrips
Considering there's also a "hanger" there that doesn't seem to be visible on any aerial imagery I just checked, I'm in favour of deleting it. It just doesn't seem to actually exist, and I question where the name came from. --- Thanks, Andrew Welch m...@andrewwelch.net On 29/04/2024 5:34 pm, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, the DWG was contacted by the owner of some farmland about an aerodrome=airport that was mapped on their property and which they would like to have removed since it was not a published airstrip and while they occasionally used it for take-offs and landings they don't want ir promoted. My standard response in cases like this would be "I can mark it access=private but if something is clearly there, I cannot remove it." I have checked with aerial imagery though and there is absolutely nothing on the aerial imagery that would set this "airstrip" apart from the neighbouring grassland. Yes it looks like I could land a plane there, but I could also land a plane the next field over, or a little bit further east or west - it all looks the same. I assume that there might be a clue locally like a windsock or so, but other than that, nothing. I'd therefore be tempted to delete the airstrip from OSM. Opinions about that? Here's the area: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/-38.3681/145.3901 Bye Frederik___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] farm airstrips
Hi, the DWG was contacted by the owner of some farmland about an aerodrome=airport that was mapped on their property and which they would like to have removed since it was not a published airstrip and while they occasionally used it for take-offs and landings they don't want ir promoted. My standard response in cases like this would be "I can mark it access=private but if something is clearly there, I cannot remove it." I have checked with aerial imagery though and there is absolutely nothing on the aerial imagery that would set this "airstrip" apart from the neighbouring grassland. Yes it looks like I could land a plane there, but I could also land a plane the next field over, or a little bit further east or west - it all looks the same. I assume that there might be a clue locally like a windsock or so, but other than that, nothing. I'd therefore be tempted to delete the airstrip from OSM. Opinions about that? Here's the area: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/-38.3681/145.3901 Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
