Re: [talk-au] maxspeed removal

2012-01-09 Thread Nick Hocking
PS - quite a few declines spent a lot of time just tracing  from
nearmap but never bothered to go out and collect the information
on the ground such as street names etc.


Most of this is still untagged and since it will disappear in
April and needs survey anyway, maybe me should delete them
now as well. Once again this will help by focusing attention on
the real red areas.

We'd have to be careful of non residential roads since one decliner
has been removing names for quite a while now and putting them into
relations (which raises a whole new set of problems for us to fix.)

Nick
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[talk-au] maxspeed removal

2012-01-08 Thread Richard Weait
Hi all,

I've removed the maxspeed tags from about 1000 roads in Redcliffe
(Brisbane) with changeset
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10338587

There were no maxspeed:source or source:maxspeed tags on these objects
so it is possible that I have removed data that was carefully
surveyed.  I apologize for that and for making a mass edit in a place
I have yet to visit.  This is poor behaviour, I hope that it will be
helpful as a demonstration.  I hope that this will clean the area up a
bit in the quick history service so that other, more substantial
issues with the data are apparent.

If successful, perhaps mappers will find this a helpful technique in
reconciling data in their area.

Best regards,
Richard

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Re: [talk-au] maxspeed removal

2012-01-08 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 9 January 2012 13:12, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:


 I've removed the maxspeed tags from about 1000 roads in Redcliffe
 (Brisbane) with changeset
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10338587


Hi,

Can you just explain this a little bit further?  My understanding is it is
a pretty specific set of these maxspeed changes we are currently
targetting, all of which have maxspeed:source as it was added by the same
bot.

Ian
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Re: [talk-au] maxspeed removal

2012-01-08 Thread Ross Scanlon

I've removed the maxspeed tags from about 1000 roads in Redcliffe
(Brisbane) with changeset
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10338587


Hi,

Can you just explain this a little bit further?  My understanding is it
is a pretty specific set of these maxspeed changes we are currently
targetting, all of which have maxspeed:source as it was added by the
same bot.

Ian


As Ian suggested it was the maxspeed:source changes that are the problem 
not the ones with maxspeed=* only on them.


Cheers
Ross

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Re: [talk-au] maxspeed removal

2012-01-08 Thread Richard Weait
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 9 January 2012 13:12, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:


 I've removed the maxspeed tags from about 1000 roads in Redcliffe
 (Brisbane) with changeset
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10338587


 Hi,

 Can you just explain this a little bit further?  My understanding is it is a
 pretty specific set of these maxspeed changes we are currently targetting,
 all of which have maxspeed:source as it was added by the same bot.

I thought it was said earlier that the bot did not add the
source:maxspeed(etc) tags in all cases.

Shall I revert?

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Re: [talk-au] maxspeed removal

2012-01-08 Thread Ross Scanlon

On 09/01/12 11:51, Richard Weait wrote:

On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Ian Sergeantinas66+...@gmail.com  wrote:

On 9 January 2012 13:12, Richard Weaitrich...@weait.com  wrote:



I've removed the maxspeed tags from about 1000 roads in Redcliffe
(Brisbane) with changeset
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10338587



Hi,

Can you just explain this a little bit further?  My understanding is it is a
pretty specific set of these maxspeed changes we are currently targetting,
all of which have maxspeed:source as it was added by the same bot.


I thought it was said earlier that the bot did not add the
source:maxspeed(etc) tags in all cases.

Shall I revert?


The bot added

maxspeed:source=default residential speed limit in Australia

 not source:maxspeed.

I've manually changed dozens (hundreds) to source:maxspeed.

I think it would be best if you reverted.

Cheers
Ross


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Re: [talk-au] maxspeed removal

2012-01-08 Thread Ross Scanlon

On 09/01/12 13:47, Richard Weait wrote:

On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Ross Scanloni...@4x4falcon.com  wrote:

On 09/01/12 11:51, Richard Weait wrote:

Shall I revert?



I think it would be best if you reverted.


Done.  You want to take a go at clearing some of these up?



Are they maxspeed:source?

I just search for:

maxspeed:source=*

(quotes required)

in josm and change it to source:maxspeed

Or maybe do what you did before but instead of deleting the maxspeed=* 
change maxspeed:source to source:maxspeed


Cheers
Ross


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Re: [talk-au] maxspeed removal

2012-01-08 Thread Andrew Harvey
Good to see you reverted your changeset.

You should really have posted to this list before making the change (I
can't tell you off though, I did the same thing when I was very new).

As you can see by this object
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/43991723/history your
changeset destroyed perfectly good information. Notably the
maxspeed=40 that Thorsten Engler added.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I've removed the maxspeed tags from about 1000 roads in Redcliffe
 (Brisbane) with changeset
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10338587

 There were no maxspeed:source or source:maxspeed tags on these objects
 so it is possible that I have removed data that was carefully
 surveyed.  I apologize for that and for making a mass edit in a place
 I have yet to visit.  This is poor behaviour, I hope that it will be
 helpful as a demonstration.  I hope that this will clean the area up a
 bit in the quick history service so that other, more substantial
 issues with the data are apparent.

 If successful, perhaps mappers will find this a helpful technique in
 reconciling data in their area.

 Best regards,
 Richard

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