Re: [talk-au] railway lines and nearmap

2009-12-26 Thread Richard Colless





Franc Carter wrote:

  Hi,

Somethng that struck me recently is that in areas with NearMap
coverage there is potential to do a much better job of mapping railway
lines - i.e lines, sidings etc could be added.

What's people opinions on doing so ?

cheers
  

I've been driving around some areas that are OSM mapped, but almost
devoid of features except the road. I find that having extra
non-drivable features makes the map more "comfortable" - gives you
confidence in your location. (I've been adding small creeks and dams
around SW Sydney). Railway lines would add the same detail, but
precise accuracy wouldn't be needed, so they could be added quickly,
without detailed surveying.

Richard



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Re: [talk-au] railway lines and nearmap

2009-12-26 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote:

 I've been driving around some areas that are OSM mapped, but almost devoid
 of features except the road. I find that having extra non-drivable features
 makes the map more comfortable - gives you confidence in your location.
 (I've been adding small creeks and dams around SW Sydney).


I know what you mean. I wish we had better ways of indicating the difference
between absence of feature and unmapped. I sometimes resort to drawing
fences for similar reasons. I've also used landuse=residential to indicate
areas that are indeed otherwise unmapped. (http://osm.org/go/uGys1CiI- for
an example)

Yesterday on a ride I ended up following a dead end bike path, because I
gambled that the end of the path was simply unmapped, rather than
non-existent. I've since added a forest at the end of the path to try and
communicate that the path really doesn't continue.

Steve
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Re: [talk-au] railway lines and nearmap

2009-12-26 Thread Richard Colless






John Smith wrote:

  2009/12/26 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au:
  
  
What's people opinions on doing so ?

  
  
More information the better :)

Just because it exists in the database doesn't mean it always has to
be rendered, different renderings suit different people, which is why
the OpenCycleMap tiles exist.

  
  
I've been driving around some areas that are OSM mapped, but almost devoid
of features except the road. I find that having extra non-drivable features
makes the map more "comfortable" - gives you confidence in your location.
(I've been adding small creeks and dams around SW Sydney). Railway lines
would add the same detail, but precise accuracy wouldn't be needed, so they
could be added quickly, without detailed surveying.

  
  
If you do this, just add a note/fixme that the information you add
isn't accurately surveyed, otherwise they may assume it has been.

How do I do this in Potlatch?
  




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Re: [talk-au] railway lines and nearmap

2009-12-26 Thread John Smith
2009/12/26 Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au:
 If you do this, just add a note/fixme that the information you add
 isn't accurately surveyed, otherwise they may assume it has been.

 How do I do this in Potlatch?

You can add a new tag manually, there is/was a plus icon to the right
hand side of that pane.

The key can be 'fixme' or 'note' and just set the value to something useful.

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[talk-au] railway lines and nearmap

2009-12-25 Thread Franc Carter
Hi,

Somethng that struck me recently is that in areas with NearMap
coverage there is potential to do a much better job of mapping railway
lines - i.e lines, sidings etc could be added.

What's people opinions on doing so ?

cheers

-- 
Franc

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Re: [talk-au] railway lines and nearmap

2009-12-25 Thread Steve Bennett
Hmm, speaking from experience of a ride today, I'd actually prefer less
detail, but maybe that's a question for the renderer. Trying to follow a
bike path that runs beside, then crosses over, a set of train tracks is
really tough - all the lines look very similar.

Anyway, that's just me grumbling - presumably mapping all the lines is the
right thing to do.

Steve

On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 11:11 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:

 2009/12/25 Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com:
  Hi,
 
  Somethng that struck me recently is that in areas with NearMap
  coverage there is potential to do a much better job of mapping railway
  lines - i.e lines, sidings etc could be added.
 
  What's people opinions on doing so ?

 Perth's imagery is so good you can see how the switch points are
 positioned.

 I've already been going through train lines in Brisbane and improving
 them where I could.

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Re: [talk-au] railway lines and nearmap

2009-12-25 Thread John Smith
2009/12/26 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
 Hmm, speaking from experience of a ride today, I'd actually prefer less
 detail, but maybe that's a question for the renderer. Trying to follow a
 bike path that runs beside, then crosses over, a set of train tracks is
 really tough - all the lines look very similar.

If all you cared about was cycling information, why didn't you use
OpenCycleMap tiles?

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Re: [talk-au] railway lines and nearmap

2009-12-25 Thread Steve Bennett

 If all you cared about was cycling information, why didn't you use
 OpenCycleMap tiles?


Shut up.

And merry christmas,
Steve.
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Re: [talk-au] railway lines and nearmap

2009-12-25 Thread John Smith
2009/12/26 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com:
 If all you cared about was cycling information, why didn't you use
 OpenCycleMap tiles?

 Shut up.

 And merry christmas,
 Steve.


This is why you should put as much information into the database as
possible, you may not care about railway lines, but railway
enthusiests do and they might want to only render train tracks...
OpenTrainMap?

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Re: [talk-au] railway lines and nearmap

2009-12-25 Thread John Smith
2009/12/26 James Andrewartha tr...@student.uwa.edu.au:
 Speaking of Transperth, anyone want to hazard a guess as what the
 license on 
 http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/TimetablesMaps/SpatialDataAccess/tabid/254/Default.aspx
 means? I suspect non-exclusive, limited and revocable rights to use,
 reproduce, and redistribute isn't quite enough, as there's no right
 to alter the data.

Maybe you could ask them to license it as cc-by the same as most data
on data.australia.gov.au

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