Re: [talk-au] unexpected consequence of merging admin boundary and road

2009-10-05 Thread Sam Vekemans
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 12:29 AM, John Smith wrote:

> 2009/10/5 Elizabeth Dodd :
> > On Mon, 5 Oct 2009, John Smith wrote:
> >> The ABS data isn't very accurate, but it would be accurate enough for
> >> the purpose it was intended which is breaking the country up into
> >> various geographical areas for statistical purposes.
> >>
> >> The Qld boundary data seems to be more accurate than GPS in most if
> >> not all cases, and it has to be in case of legal disputes arising.
> >>
> >> So it's not exactly clear cut as to if imported data is better or
> >> worst, you need to know what the intended purpose of the data is also.
>

Yup, thats why i recommend (from my last message to the list) making the
data 'available' and letting the mapper decide what features they want to
copy in... rather than the person doing the conversion making that decision.
... which is why i don't like 'bulk_importing' data... as i see it as
'blind_importing'.
... so IMO, only local mappers, ie. the most active area mapper, should
really be the person who copies in the new data.

Cheers,
Sam

P.S. some points do need to be mentioned on the imports@ mailing list, as
this helps improve the overall development of how any import 'should' be
conducted.   ... as it's ALOT of data, but alot a LOT of burden on those who
are importing the data (if mistakes are make)
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Re: [talk-au] unexpected consequence of merging admin boundary and road

2009-10-05 Thread John Smith
2009/10/5 Elizabeth Dodd :
> On Mon, 5 Oct 2009, John Smith wrote:
>> The ABS data isn't very accurate, but it would be accurate enough for
>> the purpose it was intended which is breaking the country up into
>> various geographical areas for statistical purposes.
>>
>> The Qld boundary data seems to be more accurate than GPS in most if
>> not all cases, and it has to be in case of legal disputes arising.
>>
>> So it's not exactly clear cut as to if imported data is better or
>> worst, you need to know what the intended purpose of the data is also.
> would you note that on the wiki
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#Using_Imported_Data
> as that is an improvement on
> In general, imported data is not guaranteed accurate.

I updated it, but I'm not sure if what I wrote will be 100% clear to
anyone reading it.

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Re: [talk-au] unexpected consequence of merging admin boundary and road

2009-10-04 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009, John Smith wrote:
> The ABS data isn't very accurate, but it would be accurate enough for
> the purpose it was intended which is breaking the country up into
> various geographical areas for statistical purposes.
>
> The Qld boundary data seems to be more accurate than GPS in most if
> not all cases, and it has to be in case of legal disputes arising.
>
> So it's not exactly clear cut as to if imported data is better or
> worst, you need to know what the intended purpose of the data is also.
would you note that on the wiki
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#Using_Imported_Data
as that is an improvement on 
In general, imported data is not guaranteed accurate. 

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Re: [talk-au] unexpected consequence of merging admin boundary and road

2009-10-04 Thread John Smith
2009/10/5 Liz :

> final note on this
> the road and the ABS boundary don't agree.
> nothing personal concerning the edit
> but a general note that no imported data should be preferred over actual
> survey data which is already uploaded
> might add that to the wiki :)

The ABS data isn't very accurate, but it would be accurate enough for
the purpose it was intended which is breaking the country up into
various geographical areas for statistical purposes.

The Qld boundary data seems to be more accurate than GPS in most if
not all cases, and it has to be in case of legal disputes arising.

So it's not exactly clear cut as to if imported data is better or
worst, you need to know what the intended purpose of the data is also.

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Re: [talk-au] unexpected consequence of merging admin boundary and road

2009-10-04 Thread Liz
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009, Liz wrote:
> http://osm.org/go/uN5Scwuk-
> unexpected consequence of merging admin boundary and road
> the section of the Illawarra highway immediately west of the railway
> crossing at Robertson has been merged into the admin boundary
> which gives this result on Navit
>
> the road is not displayed, so I'm going to have to take a really big
> diversion next week :)

final note on this
the road and the ABS boundary don't agree.
nothing personal concerning the edit
but a general note that no imported data should be preferred over actual 
survey data which is already uploaded
might add that to the wiki :)


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Re: [talk-au] unexpected consequence of merging admin boundary and road

2009-09-18 Thread John Smith
2009/9/18 Liz :
> http://osm.org/go/uN5Scwuk-
> unexpected consequence of merging admin boundary and road
> the section of the Illawarra highway immediately west of the railway crossing
> at Robertson has been merged into the admin boundary
> which gives this result on Navit

I can't remember if I filed a bug for this or not, I think I might have.

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[talk-au] unexpected consequence of merging admin boundary and road

2009-09-18 Thread Liz
http://osm.org/go/uN5Scwuk-
unexpected consequence of merging admin boundary and road
the section of the Illawarra highway immediately west of the railway crossing 
at Robertson has been merged into the admin boundary
which gives this result on Navit

the road is not displayed, so I'm going to have to take a really big diversion 
next week :)
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