Re: [talk-au] Google nearly up to date
I searched today until I found a sign Manning Street. If that failed I
was
going to see the lady at the post office to ask her {ref=local_knowledge}.
Excellent, I suspect that those two roads running north off Queen Street
that Google has as Stephens St and Dickinson St may
well be LATPO candidates.
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Re: [talk-au] Google nearly up to date
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Nick Hocking wrote:
I photographed the map in the park (on a big resolution).
That road could be Manning Street.
I searched today until I found a sign Manning Street. If that failed I was
going to see the lady at the post office to ask her {ref=local_knowledge}.
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Nick Hocking wrote: I photographed the map in the park (on a big resolution). That road could be Manning Street. 10 days and I can check them again The RC church could be on that road or on Sykes Road - finding the address in the phone book I would regard as confirmatory evidence. I'm not sure but I suspect that if a local council publishs a map (even using our money), they still retail copyright on it. It's a shame since they usually get the namings correct. What you have as Rogerson Lane they have as Mawby's Lane. There is no date on the map. Google street view shows the backs of your no left turn signs in maybe-manning street. It also shows the front of the no right turn signs that I thought I remembered on Monteagle street and they are even just readable, if you squint a bit. Still, I won't map the no right turn bit till I get a chance to read the live signs again. Still got to map the road to the school and a couple of other tracks - and all in a village so small the lady in the post office was looking forward to meeting two new people who had moved to town. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Nick Hocking wrote: In Tathra I missed mapping one street (probably called Esther Street). The GSV actually is readable for this street but I won't name any street unless I've read the sign and uploaded a public GPS track for it. I'll get it in November. I'm now happiest with a geo-tagged photo of the street sign, or a suitable historical plaque. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Google nearly up to date
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, Nick Hocking wrote: Well I'll be dammed, I've driven past John Gilberts Grave so many time on my trips to/from Adelaide and never knew it was there. Actually I'd never heard of John Gilbert either. Next time this is a must stop and read event - Thanks Liz That's one thing about this OSM business - going looking for new things in your world make you look harder and see different things. That's twice now in 19 years of using that road that I've stopped there. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Nick Hocking wrote: Talking of accuracy - I mapped two streets in Yass and I think that I've got one of them wrong. I must have either misread the street sign or I have made a typo whilst editing. Does anyone have authoritave information (from a non copyrighted source) of the correct name for what I've tagged as Ross Street. (I think it may well be Rossi Street). It's Rossi Street I was there one week ago. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
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why just map it? ... here's the real thing: http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8om=1z=16ll=-6.731823,146.996298spn=0.01952,0.026951t=k jim On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Nick Hocking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats nufin - Google maps will navigate you right across the runway of Avalon Airport.. They must have been practicing for mapping the runway at Gibraltar - at least they got that one right. The latest Sensis mapping has that error but the latest Navteq ones don't - Strange. The accuracy on the commercial mapping varies wildly. In the Adelaide hills the Sensis maps are excellent. I only found two tiny errors and they were completely inconsequential. Elsewhere the mapping can be completely useless. In Binalong, for example the Sensis maps are out by about 50 metres, which means that your car navigation system never knows which street it is on. Tathra had this problem (93 metres out) in the V13 release but the newer R14 maps have been corrected. If the commercial mappers cared at all about accuracy (which I don't think they do - Yet) they have the perfect tool available to address the problem (OSM). All they have to do is compare their maps to the OSM data, and where they are different, they send someone out to see who got it right. Talking of accuracy - I mapped two streets in Yass and I think that I've got one of them wrong. I must have either misread the street sign or I have made a typo whilst editing. Does anyone have authoritave information (from a non copyrighted source) of the correct name for what I've tagged as Ross Street. (I think it may well be Rossi Street). Nick ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au -- _ Jim Croft [EMAIL PROTECTED] Words, as is well known, are the great foes of reality. - Joseph Conrad, author (1857-1924) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Nick Hocking wrote: I'm interested to see where that No left turn in Binalong is. After some horrible experiences with Teleatlas maps in the US (and Sensis here), to do with one way streets and missing turn restictions, I have multiple bees in my bonnet about accurately mapping all these features. If you are coming east along the BGW into Binalong and instead of taking the left turn you go straight ahead, then the next street on the left is a no_left_turn, and you have to ahead past the cemetery down some tracks and rejoin the BGW at the motor museum turnoff. We haven't got the first road named yet, the turn is into Monteagle Street. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Nick Hocking wrote: Thanks Liz, I bet you guessed that I zoomed in to make sure the I wasn't in fact an ! :-) A while back I thought about going around Canberra photographing close ups of all the plaques that I could find. My Mio will geotag photos, so even though the lens is rubbish, on a good day, and close up, it should be good enough for a plaque or two. Cheers Nick I'm really taken with the happy snap camera, doing a photo of a waypoint to show the time properly and georeferencing the photos. much easier than pen and paper next trip to ACT I can photograph some more of Binalong, Galong, Yass and just keep the GPS running. No making more than one waypoint a day unless you do a battery change that day. -- My dear People. My dear Bagginses and Boffins, and my dear Tooks and Brandybucks, and Grubbs, and Chubbs, and Burrowses, and Hornblowers, and Bolgers, Bracegirdles, Goodbodies, Brockhouses and Proudfoots. Also my good Sackville Bagginses that I welcome back at last to Bag End. Today is my one hundred and eleventh birthday: I am eleventy-one today! -- J. R. R. Tolkien ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
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On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 22:32 +1100, Jim Croft wrote: why just map it? ... here's the real thing: http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8om=1z=16ll=-6.731823,146.996298spn=0.01952,0.026951t=k I thought that was going to be a google street view link - which reminds me, what are the legalities of getting names from street view? James Andrewartha ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Google nearly up to date
Interesting. Just been checking out suburban intersections in Canberra using GSV and while you can often find the signpost, you can rarely read the street names on them. Sometimes on a narrow street T- intersection, if the car was on the left hand side of the road, close to the sign, you can just make out the letters. [ Also interesting, the blue GSV route overlays are sometimes quite inaccurate WRT the air photos. Check out Academy Close in Campbell and the Russell offices at the end of Northcott Drive - in both cases the road goes through buildings. It is not just a matter of registration and misalignment - the shape is wrong. Note also in this area the street view map and the street map are out of alignment by 5 or 6 m or more. Easter eggery or simple shoddiness? ] Why would the copyright and associated fair use provisions of the GSV be any different to the rest of Google maps and other Google offerings? Whether you decide to use GSV as base data, or third party confirmation, the above examples show you really need to check and confirm everything independently. jim On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 2:23 AM, James Andrewartha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - which reminds me, what are the legalities of getting names from street view? -- _ Jim Croft [EMAIL PROTECTED] Words, as is well known, are the great foes of reality. - Joseph Conrad, author (1857-1924) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
