Re: [OSM-talk-be] AGIV
Hi, Maybe we should wait until Pieter has some kind of response for us. I would like to send something to the DWG that can be verified and is backed by some facts. Otherwise there will a be discussion about technicalities that might not matter at all. We will have less difficulty if we have all the details before we ask the DWG or send something to the imports-list. Also a translation of the license can still be useful. Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 04:11:04PM +0200, Ben Abelshausen wrote: > > Hello, > > > > There is a new episode in the AGIV-CRAB-OSM story. > > > > Today they released the CRAB database using the new flanders open data > > licence [1]. This means that now we can start the process of verification > > with the Imports-list and the DWG that the licence is ok and we can start > > using AGIV as a source when mapping. > > > > I will take care of this but help is always welcome. If there is someone > > dutch-speaking here with a verifiable legal experitse that could help me > > translate the licence into english and discuss with the DWG that would be > > nice. > > > > What I understand from reading the licence [2] using this data in the > > context of OSM should not be a problem anymore except for the need to > > mention the source when distributing the data. This should not be a > problem > > because I have confirmation from someone at AGIV that a source-mention on > > the wiki is enough for them. This means they will consider themselves one > > of the "© OpenStreetMap contributors" :-) ! > > Reading the license, I can see no problem at all. > > I'm not sure what you mean with "verifiable legal experitse". I'm > not a lawyer, but I did read many license to check that they are > free or not. If that is good enough I'm willing to help with > getting this officially approved. > > > Kurt > > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] AGIV
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 04:11:04PM +0200, Ben Abelshausen wrote: > Hello, > > There is a new episode in the AGIV-CRAB-OSM story. > > Today they released the CRAB database using the new flanders open data > licence [1]. This means that now we can start the process of verification > with the Imports-list and the DWG that the licence is ok and we can start > using AGIV as a source when mapping. > > I will take care of this but help is always welcome. If there is someone > dutch-speaking here with a verifiable legal experitse that could help me > translate the licence into english and discuss with the DWG that would be > nice. > > What I understand from reading the licence [2] using this data in the > context of OSM should not be a problem anymore except for the need to > mention the source when distributing the data. This should not be a problem > because I have confirmation from someone at AGIV that a source-mention on > the wiki is enough for them. This means they will consider themselves one > of the "© OpenStreetMap contributors" :-) ! Reading the license, I can see no problem at all. I'm not sure what you mean with "verifiable legal experitse". I'm not a lawyer, but I did read many license to check that they are free or not. If that is good enough I'm willing to help with getting this officially approved. Kurt ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] AGIV
2013/8/30 eMerzh > Yeah good news indeed ... > After Brussels, if this is true ... we need only smth from wallonia and > osm in Belgium will be awesome :) > indeed We can hope that such a process (Brussels and Flanders sharing ther data) will help persuade Wallonia to do the same. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] AGIV
FYI, I've forwarded this to some legal people at OKFN and to the Flemish government department responsible for the licenses. Pieter On 08/30/2013 04:11 PM, Ben Abelshausen wrote: Hello, There is a new episode in the AGIV-CRAB-OSM story. Today they released the CRAB database using the new flanders open data licence [1]. This means that now we can start the process of verification with the Imports-list and the DWG that the licence is ok and we can start using AGIV as a source when mapping. I will take care of this but help is always welcome. If there is someone dutch-speaking here with a verifiable legal experitse that could help me translate the licence into english and discuss with the DWG that would be nice. What I understand from reading the licence [2] using this data in the context of OSM should not be a problem anymore except for the need to mention the source when distributing the data. This should not be a problem because I have confirmation from someone at AGIV that a source-mention on the wiki is enough for them. This means they will consider themselves one of the "© OpenStreetMap contributors" :-) ! Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen [1] http://agiv.be/gis/nieuws/?artid=2179 [2] http://agiv.be/gis/producten/?artid=2101 ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] AGIV
On 2013-08-30 16:11, Ben Abelshausen wrote : ... Today they released the CRAB database using the new flanders open data licence [1]. This means that now we can start the process of verification with the Imports-list and the DWG that the licence is ok and we can start using AGIV as a source when mapping. ... On 2013-08-30 16:59, eMerzh wrote : Yeah good news indeed ... After Brussels, if this is true ... we need only smth from wallonia and osm in Belgium will be awesome :) It's now 3 to 4 years that I asked the SPW directly and through various channels to at least support ESPG:4326 etc. (instead of just Lambert), and now WMS, on their existing servers to be able to do something serious manually. I corrected mapping that was 10, 20, 50 and up to 120m away. Lately, that was answering to a survey asking "what do you need?". Cheers, André. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] AGIV
Yeah good news indeed ... After Brussels, if this is true ... we need only smth from wallonia and osm in Belgium will be awesome :) ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] AGIV
good news ! Julien Le 30/08/13 16:11, Ben Abelshausen a écrit : Hello, There is a new episode in the AGIV-CRAB-OSM story. Today they released the CRAB database using the new flanders open data licence [1]. This means that now we can start the process of verification with the Imports-list and the DWG that the licence is ok and we can start using AGIV as a source when mapping. I will take care of this but help is always welcome. If there is someone dutch-speaking here with a verifiable legal experitse that could help me translate the licence into english and discuss with the DWG that would be nice. What I understand from reading the licence [2] using this data in the context of OSM should not be a problem anymore except for the need to mention the source when distributing the data. This should not be a problem because I have confirmation from someone at AGIV that a source-mention on the wiki is enough for them. This means they will consider themselves one of the "© OpenStreetMap contributors" :-) ! Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen [1] http://agiv.be/gis/nieuws/?artid=2179 [2] http://agiv.be/gis/producten/?artid=2101 ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] AGIV
Hello, There is a new episode in the AGIV-CRAB-OSM story. Today they released the CRAB database using the new flanders open data licence [1]. This means that now we can start the process of verification with the Imports-list and the DWG that the licence is ok and we can start using AGIV as a source when mapping. I will take care of this but help is always welcome. If there is someone dutch-speaking here with a verifiable legal experitse that could help me translate the licence into english and discuss with the DWG that would be nice. What I understand from reading the licence [2] using this data in the context of OSM should not be a problem anymore except for the need to mention the source when distributing the data. This should not be a problem because I have confirmation from someone at AGIV that a source-mention on the wiki is enough for them. This means they will consider themselves one of the "© OpenStreetMap contributors" :-) ! Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen [1] http://agiv.be/gis/nieuws/?artid=2179 [2] http://agiv.be/gis/producten/?artid=2101 ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
