[OSM-talk-be] Cartopartie Tournai (Belgique) samedi 09 novembre
Bonjour vous êtes toutes et tous invités Cartopartie à partir de Tournai. Journée animée par les associations Cooptic Belgique et Tiriad. Samedi 09 novembre : 10 - 17h. journée continue. Les habitants, associations, collectivités... sont invité à participer à une grande journée de récolte de données citoyennes sur le terrain à partir de Tournai Journée conviviale pour découvrir cette ville historique et ses alentours. Venez nous aider ! (PS : si vous voulez nous aider à distance ... n'hésitez pas !) *17h00 : Temps de restitution avec apéritif* Projection de la carte obtenue sur OSM et comparaison après trois journées de travail (2j de formation + cartopartie) - Rendez-vous à l'espace de co-working de Tournai : *Rue de Pont n°6/8 - 7500 TOURNAI* *Tél. : 069/21 18 03* http://cartosm.eu/map?lon=3.3933566149898&lat=50.606997969246&zoom=18&width=400&height=350&mark=true&nav=true&pan=true&zb=inout&style=default&icon=down -- Louis-Julien de la Bouëre Association Tiriad ljbou...@tiriad.org www.tiriad.org Portable : 06 58 79 80 56 Twitter : @assotiriad Skype : tiloul29 <>___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] Interesting OSM Blog
This blog http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Harry%20Wood/diary/20335discusses the problems people have with maintaining bus route relations and attracting new mappers in London. Seems other communities have the same problems as we do. see you tonight at the hangout m ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] CRAB & OSM (again)
I realized that we can't work with different layers without breaking the imported associatedStreet-relation. Therefore I have to update the text and the screenshots. regards m On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Ben Abelshausen wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: > >> screenshots are added to >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/AGIV_CRAB_Import#Workflow, feel free >> to change >> > > Ah and that looks good! :-) The only showstopper I can see is the > seperate-account-issue. > > They are now discussing changing the import-guidelines to import-(rules) > on the 'imports-list' so I'm sure it will be doable to do without seperate > accounts. > > Met vriendelijke groeten, > Best regards, > > Ben Abelshausen > > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] New Boundary for Belgium - NL?
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 05:00:51PM +0100, André Pirard wrote: > I was just writing a few days ago that, as the law says that the law > cannot be copyrighted, there can be no copyright for boundaries, as > well as for traffic signs. Shouldn't the boundary maps normally be > found in the Moniteur together with this kind of announcement? I'm pretty sure it will be published with coordinates. There are existing laws with coordinates in them, at least for borders between municipalities. But it's hard to find them all since only the recent changes are made available digitally. > I wonder what happens when the river or stream used as a borderline > by OSM changes its course by itself. There are defentily cases where the border is the historic path of a river, and either the river changed by itself or man altered it's path but that the border stayed. But it's not only rivers. Roads are often also the border and might later be widened, straighten out and so on. You can do 2 things when currently mapping them and you don't have official coordinates: - Re-use the existing nodes, nodes end up in 2 ways - Use other points for them, they don't share nodes In the first case you of course need to be careful when moving such a node. But we might not know better where the border really is so it's often easier to map re-use the nodes. Kurt ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] New Boundary for Belgium - NL?
On 2013-11-07 08:49, eMerzh wrote : Hi, i've just stumble upon this :http://www.lalibre.be/actu/belgique/la-belgique-va-ceder-une-dizaine-d-hectares-aux-pays-bas-527b198035703e420f40e11f anyone has more informations about this? it might be interesting to be the first map to be up to date :) (sorry for the fr only article) No problem, here is the translation. Quite decent English. Better than for the discussions on this list, I'm afraid. Not simple Dutch and even the English translations are hard to understand. La Libre: So, a change of the border is under negotiation and will soon be presented to governments and chambers of the two countries, said "La Libre Belgique". I was just writing a few days ago that, as the law says that the law cannot be copyrighted, there can be no copyright for boundaries, as well as for traffic signs. Shouldn't the boundary maps normally be found in the Moniteur together with this kind of announcement? I wonder what happens when the river or stream used as a borderline by OSM changes its course by itself. And, after finding two pedestrian crossings on Brussels' borderlines, whether the river specialist mapper will notice that moving a river moves a border too. anyone has more informations about this? it might be interesting to be the first map to be up to date :) Many newspapers (but not La Meuse ;-)) contain the (same) information, try a search in Dutch. "Nul n'est censé ignorer la loi" (No one is supposed to ignore the law). When I want to watch eBay articles, I record a daily keyword search whose results are sent to me by e-mail. Any idea when the government will invent that for the law? Cheers, André. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] CRAB & OSM (again)
While I understand the arguments to have a dedicated account for imports, what we are going to do is not an import. It is using a certain database as reference source. An import for me is taking all data from a source, and upload that immediately into osm, without human intervention. As Jo already pointed out, do they (DWG) expect us to switch accounts between uploading the house numbers from AGIV and other tasks (such as slightly modifying a building contour, splitting a building or adding a highway crossing ) that can be done during the import ? Or can that import account also be used for those changes ? What if they decided to revert all the changes with data from the import ? m. On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Ben Abelshausen wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: > >> screenshots are added to >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/AGIV_CRAB_Import#Workflow, feel free >> to change >> > > Ah and that looks good! :-) The only showstopper I can see is the > seperate-account-issue. > > They are now discussing changing the import-guidelines to import-(rules) > on the 'imports-list' so I'm sure it will be doable to do without seperate > accounts. > > Met vriendelijke groeten, > Best regards, > > Ben Abelshausen > > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] CRAB & OSM (again)
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: > screenshots are added to > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/AGIV_CRAB_Import#Workflow, feel free > to change > Ah and that looks good! :-) The only showstopper I can see is the seperate-account-issue. They are now discussing changing the import-guidelines to import-(rules) on the 'imports-list' so I'm sure it will be doable to do without seperate accounts. Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] CRAB & OSM (again)
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: > BTW, Ben, can we do some translations for the dialog ? > Yep it was already suggested by frédéric, not sure how this will be done but there is not much to translate anyway... :-) Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] CRAB & OSM (again)
screenshots are added to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/AGIV_CRAB_Import#Workflow, feel free to change BTW, Ben, can we do some translations for the dialog ? On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: > I'll try to make a few screenshots and update the procedure on the wiki > > m > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Ben Abelshausen < > ben.abelshau...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> The site is back online, I just recieved an email about that. >> >> I will continue to focus on the TODO's: >> >> - Improve the script to handle 'special' chars: If anyone can spot what >> I'm doing wrong in the script please let me know. >> - Improve the script to Always take the most accurate position. >> - Improve the script to remove data with an end-date before today. >> >> Another suggestiong that popped-up during the last OSM-meetup here in >> Gent: >> >> Not all CRAB-data is 'complete' yet. There is a list of communes that >> are. I would suggest starting ONLY with these and add the new and completed >> communes when they are complete at AGIV. I should have the information to >> know quickly what data is complete. It's no use using data that might be >> incorrect no? >> >> Met vriendelijke groeten, >> Best regards, >> >> Ben Abelshausen >> >> ___ >> Talk-be mailing list >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> >> > ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] CRAB & OSM (again)
I'll try to make a few screenshots and update the procedure on the wiki m On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Ben Abelshausen wrote: > Hi, > > The site is back online, I just recieved an email about that. > > I will continue to focus on the TODO's: > > - Improve the script to handle 'special' chars: If anyone can spot what > I'm doing wrong in the script please let me know. > - Improve the script to Always take the most accurate position. > - Improve the script to remove data with an end-date before today. > > Another suggestiong that popped-up during the last OSM-meetup here in Gent: > > Not all CRAB-data is 'complete' yet. There is a list of communes that are. > I would suggest starting ONLY with these and add the new and completed > communes when they are complete at AGIV. I should have the information to > know quickly what data is complete. It's no use using data that might be > incorrect no? > > Met vriendelijke groeten, > Best regards, > > Ben Abelshausen > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] CRAB & OSM (again)
Hi, The site is back online, I just recieved an email about that. I will continue to focus on the TODO's: - Improve the script to handle 'special' chars: If anyone can spot what I'm doing wrong in the script please let me know. - Improve the script to Always take the most accurate position. - Improve the script to remove data with an end-date before today. Another suggestiong that popped-up during the last OSM-meetup here in Gent: Not all CRAB-data is 'complete' yet. There is a list of communes that are. I would suggest starting ONLY with these and add the new and completed communes when they are complete at AGIV. I should have the information to know quickly what data is complete. It's no use using data that might be incorrect no? Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
