Re: [OSM-talk-be] Telenav Mapping Project

2020-04-22 Thread Marc Gemis
Hallo Adrian,

thanks for reaching out before starting the project.

Just like the others here, I wonder how bad the situation is in
Brussels in your eyes. Do you have an overview of the wrong/missing
data that you will try to fix? Do you have a list of sources that you
will use to correct those problems? This information is missing in the
TelenavMapping page you are linking to.
Without this information, it's hard to tell whether your remote work
will improve the situation or undo the hard work of the local mapping
community.

As for Flandres, we had a "street complete' project a few years ago
that added all missing roads. Furthermore, before I had spent 2 years
or so on adding all the turn:lanes on motorways, trunk and primary
road, mainly in Flandres but also in Brussels and Wallonia. It might
be worth to do an update on that. Of course, in the meantime, others
have joined that project and have updated the data all over the
country.


regards

m.

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 1:09 PM Adrian Budugan
 wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am Adrian and I am part of the Mapping Team at Telenav. Our team started an 
> editing project in Belgium to make OpenStreetMap more navigable and accurate 
> in guidance.
>
> We will start editing in Brussels at the end of April, next week. There are 
> more details here - 
> https://github.com/TelenavMapping/EU_mapping_projects/issues/4.
>
> We will focus on one ways, turn restrictions, road geometry and quality 
> assurance.
>
> We we'd love to hear your advice on any local mapping guidelines, besides the 
> general OSM mapping ones (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page, 
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features).
>
> Also, we appreciate any hints regarding available local or government data 
> that we might be able to us or anything else that might come in handy.
>
> If there are any other OSM communication channels for Belgium, please let us 
> know.
>
> If you have any questions or comments, please let me/us know.
>
> We are looking forward to hearing from you.
>
>
>
> Thank you!
>
>
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Telenav Mapping Project

2020-04-22 Thread joost schouppe
 Hi Adrian,

To add to that, there's an overview of all the channels at our local
chapter's website: https://openstreetmap.be/en/contact.html

We have decent Mapillary coverage, but are constantly looking to get more
and better cameras for our volunteers (hint, hint).
There is good and recent imagery (properly indexed both in the imagery
layer index and the JOSM index). There are also good basemaps from the
government, which you can use for mapping.

As always, both imagery and basemaps can be outdated - sometimes OSM is
ahead, sometimes it isn't. There's quite an active community, so be mindful
of the last edit date on object (I should know, I recently messed up
JanFi's work).

What data will you be basing your edits on? I would think that Brussels is
mapped pretty well, so it might be hard to improve remotely.
It might be useful to start off with just Notes, so that we can review them
locally. That might avoid any editing conflict.
I think the most active mapper in Brussels is bxl-forever, might be useful
to engage him directly.

Joost

Op wo 22 apr. 2020 om 20:01 schreef Pieter Vander Vennet <
pieterv...@posteo.net>:

> Hello Adrian and Telenav-team.
>
> Welcome in Belgium, the more support, the merrier.
>
> First of all, there is quite an active community in Belgium - I'm one of
> them, as are several others. As already mentioned, the matrix-chat is an
> excellent way to reach out to us and have questions answered quite fast -
> please join us here: https://riot.im/app/#/room/#osmbe:matrix.org
>
> Second, I was wondering where you are based - the best way to map is by
> using local knowledge and by running around to see what the situation is.
> Also, being here IRL will allow us to meetup or to get in touch with the
> OpenKnowledge Belgium - they do great work for Open Source and Open Data.
>
> However, I presume that you will mostly be doing remote work, based on
> official data and mapillary streetview. This too can be useful, but the
> situation of Brussels is quite volatile and might change a lot. Don't be
> afraid to to ask us (or a local) to check up on the situation.
>
> At last, a lot of cyclists are using OSM in Brussels - the company I work
> for even hosts  a professional cycle route planner for the city. Please, be
> careful not to break it. Especially when adding 'oneway=yes', this might
> force the routeplanner to consider this oneway *for cyclists as well.*
> Please, if it is clear that cyclists are allowed to go both ways, add
> 'oneway:bicycle=no' or, even better, add the appropriate cycleway tags
> ('cycleway=lane', 'cycleway=track', ...)
>
> Kind regards,
> Pietervdvn
>
>
> On 22.04.20 13:08, Adrian Budugan wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am Adrian and I am part of the Mapping Team at Telenav. Our team
> started an editing project in Belgium to make OpenStreetMap more
> navigable and accurate in guidance.
>
> We will start editing in Brussels at the end of April, next week. There
> are more details here -
> https://github.com/TelenavMapping/EU_mapping_projects/issues/4.
>
> We will focus on one ways, turn restrictions, road geometry and quality
> assurance.
>
> We we'd love to hear your advice on any local mapping guidelines, besides
> the general OSM mapping ones (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page
> , http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features).
>
> Also, we appreciate any hints regarding available local or government data
> that we might be able to us or anything else that might come in handy.
>
> If there are any other OSM communication channels for Belgium, please let
> us know.
>
> If you have any questions or comments, please let me/us know.
>
> We are looking forward to hearing from you.
>
>
>
> Thank you!
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Telenav Mapping Project

2020-04-22 Thread Pieter Vander Vennet
Hello Adrian and Telenav-team.

Welcome in Belgium, the more support, the merrier.

First of all, there is quite an active community in Belgium - I'm one of
them, as are several others. As already mentioned, the matrix-chat is an
excellent way to reach out to us and have questions answered quite fast
- please join us here: https://riot.im/app/#/room/#osmbe:matrix.org

Second, I was wondering where you are based - the best way to map is by
using local knowledge and by running around to see what the situation
is. Also, being here IRL will allow us to meetup or to get in touch with
the OpenKnowledge Belgium - they do great work for Open Source and Open
Data.

However, I presume that you will mostly be doing remote work, based on
official data and mapillary streetview. This too can be useful, but the
situation of Brussels is quite volatile and might change a lot. Don't be
afraid to to ask us (or a local) to check up on the situation.

At last, a lot of cyclists are using OSM in Brussels - the company I
work for even hosts  a professional cycle route planner for the city.
Please, be careful not to break it. Especially when adding 'oneway=yes',
this might force the routeplanner to consider this oneway /for cyclists
as well./ Please, if it is clear that cyclists are allowed to go both
ways, add 'oneway:bicycle=no' or, even better, add the appropriate
cycleway tags ('cycleway=lane', 'cycleway=track', ...)

Kind regards,
Pietervdvn


On 22.04.20 13:08, Adrian Budugan wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am Adrian and I am part of the Mapping Team at Telenav. Our team
> started an editing project in Belgium to make OpenStreetMap more
> navigable and accurate in guidance.
>
> We will start editing in Brussels at the end of April, next week.
> There are more details here
> - https://github.com/TelenavMapping/EU_mapping_projects/issues/4.
>
> We will focus on one ways, turn restrictions, road geometry and
> quality assurance.
>
> We we'd love to hear your advice on any local mapping guidelines,
> besides the general OSM mapping
> ones (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page, 
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features).
>
> Also, we appreciate any hints regarding available local or government
> data that we might be able to us or anything else that might come in
> handy.
>
> If there are any other OSM communication channels for Belgium, please
> let us know. 
>
> If you have any questions or comments, please let me/us know.
>
> We are looking forward to hearing from you.
>
>  
>
> Thank you!
>
>  
>
>  
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Telenav Mapping Project

2020-04-22 Thread Karel Adams
I for one do not feel strongly motivated to support commercial offerers 
of geographical information; given our goal and quest of providing it 
all for free.


KA

On 2020-04-22 11:08, Adrian Budugan wrote:


Hi all,

I am Adrian and I am part of the Mapping Team at Telenav. Our team 
started an editing project in Belgium to make OpenStreetMap more 
navigable and accurate in guidance.


We will start editing in Brussels at the end of April, next week. 
There are more details here - 
https://github.com/TelenavMapping/EU_mapping_projects/issues/4.


We will focus on one ways, turn restrictions, road geometry and 
quality assurance.


We we'd love to hear your advice on any local mapping guidelines, 
besides the general OSM mapping 
ones (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page, 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features).


Also, we appreciate any hints regarding available local or government 
data that we might be able to us or anything else that might come in 
handy.


If there are any other OSM communication channels for Belgium, please 
let us know.


If you have any questions or comments, please let me/us know.

We are looking forward to hearing from you.

Thank you!


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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Telenav Mapping Project

2020-04-22 Thread Lionel Giard
Great to learn about your project. :-)

I would think that this page of our Belgium convention could be useful to
you : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_Belgium . It list
our current convention for how to map road signs around here (the
picture on the wiki are generally in dutch, but the same sign exist in
french), notably all the exception signs under the main sign. Some signs
are very uncommon, but just in case, this can help ! :-)

You can always see this wiki page, or if you have a special question, feel
free to ask the community here and/or you can find more ways to contact us
like our "OpenStreetMap BE Matrix channel" to have a quick chat about
something : https://openstreetmap.be/en/contact.html .

Kind Regards,

Le mer. 22 avr. 2020 à 13:09, Adrian Budugan  a
écrit :

> Hi all,
>
> I am Adrian and I am part of the Mapping Team at Telenav. Our team
> started an editing project in Belgium to make OpenStreetMap more
> navigable and accurate in guidance.
>
> We will start editing in Brussels at the end of April, next week. There
> are more details here -
> https://github.com/TelenavMapping/EU_mapping_projects/issues/4.
>
> We will focus on one ways, turn restrictions, road geometry and quality
> assurance.
>
> We we'd love to hear your advice on any local mapping guidelines, besides
> the general OSM mapping ones (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page
> , http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features).
>
> Also, we appreciate any hints regarding available local or government data
> that we might be able to us or anything else that might come in handy.
>
> If there are any other OSM communication channels for Belgium, please let
> us know.
>
> If you have any questions or comments, please let me/us know.
>
> We are looking forward to hearing from you.
>
>
>
> Thank you!
>
>
>
>
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[OSM-talk-be] Telenav Mapping Project

2020-04-22 Thread Adrian Budugan
Hi all,

I am Adrian and I am part of the Mapping Team at Telenav. Our team started an 
editing project in Belgium to make OpenStreetMap more navigable and accurate in 
guidance.

We will start editing in Brussels at the end of April, next week. There are 
more details here - 
https://github.com/TelenavMapping/EU_mapping_projects/issues/4.

We will focus on one ways, turn restrictions, road geometry and quality 
assurance.

We we'd love to hear your advice on any local mapping guidelines, besides the 
general OSM mapping ones (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page, 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features).

Also, we appreciate any hints regarding available local or government data that 
we might be able to us or anything else that might come in handy.

If there are any other OSM communication channels for Belgium, please let us 
know.

If you have any questions or comments, please let me/us know.

We are looking forward to hearing from you.



Thank you!



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