Re: [talk-au] cities changed to towns
Hi I disagree, I believe the greater than 100,000 test is not applicable within Australia. OSM Wiki says a city is: The largest urban settlements in the territory, normally including the national, state and provincial capitals. These are defined by charter or other governmental designation in some territories and are a matter of judgement in others. Should normally have a population of at least 100,000 people and be larger than nearby townsAll of these apply to those places previously mentioned : 1) largest urban settlements in the territory 2) defined by charter 3) larger than nearby towns. The one 'rule' that these places fail is 100,000 inhabitants - however the wiki guide text is prefaced by the word 'normally'. Taken with the Australian tagging rules page that says you may 'promote' regional centres, I think it is fair to tag these as cities. Chas On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Alex Sims a...@softgrow.com wrote: On 11/12/2012 6:06 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: Ok, but I don't think we should get hung up on the coincidence between the Australian official meaning of city and the tag place=city. (By coincidence, I mean, if we happened to speak some other language, obviously there'd be no official designation of city.) So...what do we want place=city to refer to? I would want place=city to refer to an urban populated area of at least 100,000 people as per http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/** wiki/Key:place#Valueshttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place#Values I've taken to fixing errors from Geofabrik OSMI and have changed places to match the schema above. Whilst I find hamlet village grate on me as words, they are merely code for an object to be mapped. It's only really issue because I speak English (Australian) and the OSM schema was developed in English (United Kingdom) that there is an issue. If we all spoke Finnish or Swahili we wouldn't be having this discussion now. Alex __**_ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-auhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au -- cbar...@pobox.com ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] cities changed to towns
Hi, some Australian places have changed from cities to towns on; changeset was: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14217241 I've emailed to the editor to ask the source for the change as I believe some are now incorrect. I really do think Gympie, Maryborough, Warwick and Charters Towers are cities, and should have remained tagged as such. Are there others, in other states, within this changeset that should have stayed as is? Wikipedia is not the best reference material I know, but they have the Qld ones I mentioned as cities: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_Australia Additionally, I think some of the others should to be tagged cities, even if not officially, under the Aus tagging guidelines at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#City.2C_Town_or_Village.3F So looking at the tagging guidelines, haven't we agreed to tag by population size or significance in remote areas? Here is a populated list of places by population for Qld that could be useful any discussion: http://www.bonzle.com/c/a?a=fsc=lgst=3cmd=sp Cheers, chas ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] [Imports] Importing locality names from GeoScience Australia dataset.
Hi, On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 6:48 AM, Li Xia lisxia1...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP 1. Can anyone suggest tags other than the following? name:different place:locality source: © Commonwealth of Australia (GeoScience Australia) 2006. 2. Using JOSM at the moment and uploads take a while, is there a better way of bulk uploading data? /SNIP Some questions for you: 1) Can you post a link to the source data and licence? 2) that copyright tag looks ominous, are you sure it's licenced appropriately for import to OSM? a) The site http://ga.gov.au has a footer that says: Unless otherwise noted, all Geoscience Australia material on this website is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Australia Licence. I believe this may not compatible with OSM... b) ...Unless you got the data from http://data.gov.au/ for which OSM has obtained rights to import 3) Tagging - why only place: locality, and not place:city/hamlet/town mappings? a) GA name data appears to also other place types such as Mountains/hills that could be useful see http://www.ga.gov.au/place-name/ 4) Using String compare to deduplicate names is probably insufficient - there should be a manual check as well due to potential local-use/mis-spellings in OSM data vs approved names - can you share your de-duplication code? 5) Have you read http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines ? Chris ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Aus remapping task server
Hi, Has anyone got the tech smarts/resources to stand up a remap-a-tron for Australia? It seems to have been rather a success in the USA, and could help us direct our remapping efforts: demo: http://lima.schaaltreinen.nl/remap/ Source: https://github.com/mvexel/remapatron Might be a good time to do it as the remaining rebuild jobs for Australia seem to be nearing completion: Brisbane: http://rebuild.poole.ch/job/29 Hobart: http://rebuild.poole.ch/job/33 So I imagine some people will be looking for more tasks soon :-) Cheers, Chas ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] ACT spatial data site
Hi, I saw this and thought I'd mention it here - ACT has launched an open data initiative/site that may be worth monitoring: http://all-things-spatial.blogspot.de/2012/09/act-implements-free-data-initiative.html Cheers, Chris ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] redaction cleanup - unusual water feature
Hi, I'm working on the post redaction checks from the rebuild server at http://rebuild.poole.ch/job/29 And I'm a bit confused by this: http://osm.org/go/ueHoaPP9-- If you look at Bing imagery for this location it is composed of some sort of inland harbour/marina/coastline/water feature which had previously been mapped (rather elegantly too by the look of it), from Nearmap as source. Post redaction there are the outline nodes left,and I'm was wondering how to go about reinstating this coastline/water? Join up the existing nodes? Start again? What tags? Cheers, Chas ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Charleville gone
My pet project city is gone... So sad :-( weeks of my OpenStreetMap edits - from this: http://mapq.st/Mu0w1S to this: http://osm.org/go/uW6~q6RW-- I surveyed Charleville and had a blast doing it, but I added to imported road reservation data instead of deleted and re-entered. To think that if the importer had ticked a single check box it would have saved the work. Some people just want to watch the world burn. C. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] lake baroon missing
Hi, I'm away for a few months, but a friend just pointed out that Lake Baroon has gone missing: http://osm.org/go/ueSKIP02- If anyone is inclined to fix please do Chas -- cbar...@pobox.com ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] remove nearmap and yahoo coverage polygons
Hi, Is anyone able to retrieve and delete the polygons defining the extent of coverage of Nearmap and Yahoo imagery over Aus? These polygons are irrelevant now. I tried to come up with a way... but failed :-( Cheers, Chas -- cbar...@pobox.com ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Brisbane street names
Hi, Just spotted a CC-by dataset of Brisbane, Qld, Aus streetnames... Perhaps possible/useful for checking of spelling of existing street names? (I'm *guessing* that wouldn't violate the licence) http://data.brisbane.qld.gov.au/index.php/dataset/street-names/ Chris ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] ODbL data.gov.au permission granted
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 19:51, waldo000...@gmail.com waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: +1. Surely forwarding the emails is less work for you anyway than transcribing parts of the emails (?!). Did you consider why forwarding the full emails might be less than wise? - I have, and will share my thoughts: a number of people on this list are both vocal and vitriolic regarding OSMF. Making the licence negotiation details public could hand to those who do not have good intentions towards OSM, potential tools to try and damage the project. Scenario A: A person could cut and paste the detail along with a whiny cover letter to data.gov.au saying no fair, me want too - piggy backing on the work done by licence group for the benefit of OSM, all the while decrying anything OSMF does. Scenario B: Someone could nitpick over detail and then jeopardise the agreement by complaining vociferously to anyone who will listen about how it's illegal because a full stop is misplaced; maybe complaining to individual data owners e.g.: Look at this, data.gov.au just re-licenced your data I'm not suggesting it will happen, but it could, especially given the historical (and breathtakingly non-sensical), level of animosity towards OSMF and it's work. Unless I misunderstand it, the licence group volunteer to sort this stuff out, project users can assume they act in good faith and applaud their successes. So why aren't we believing that this is what they have done, under the oversight of the OSMF (who are there to oversee)? Chris ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Bicentennial National Trail
The 5,330 km National Trail known as the Australian Bicentennial National Trail (BNT), is only partially mapped in OSM. Refs: OSM existing Route Relation: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/176684 There is a website regarding the trail here http://www.nationaltrail.com.au/ I suppose that the reason it's not on OSM is because the guidebooks with the route have to be purchased, are copyrighted, and in some cases out of print or very hard to find. The Queensland government has free vector data of the Qld section of the route under a seemingly permissive licence (it's the DERM_SHORT_OPEN). I wondered if anyone had heard of this licene before and whether it considered to be OSM compatible, and this route relation could then be updated using this file? Getting the data: 1) Go to http://dds.information.qld.gov.au/dds/ 2) in section 2 enter search term National Trail 3) Result should be Bicentennial National Trail in Queensland datset 4) Download Dataset: Metadata: --- Text Bicentennial National Trail in Queensland Date: 18-03-2010 (revision) Maintenance and update frequency: not planned Abstract: The Bicentennial National Trail is the longest marked, non-motorised, self-reliant multi-use trekking route in the world, stretching an extraordinary 5,330 kilometres from Cooktown in tropical North Queensland, to Healesville in Victoria. Following the inspiration of the legendary bushman R. M. Williams, the Trail follows the historic coach and stock routes, old pack horse trails, and country roads. Wherever possible along its great length the Trail has been designed to be a living history of our country, following the routes of our early pioneers and highlighting historic sites and artifacts along the way. The trail has been mapped within Queensland by the Queensland Government for the National Trail Organisation circa 1987. See www.nationaltrail.com.au for more information. The original maps within Queensland were compiled and supplied by the Department of Lands, Queensland Government. These maps were digitised and have been realigned to agree with the digital cadastral database. Owner: Department of Environment and Resource Management Data / Resource Constraints: Copyright: (C) The State of Queensland (Department of Environment and Resource Management) 2010 Licence: DERM_SHORT_OPEN Lineage: This dataset was digitised from Department of Lands 1:10 cadastral paper maps used to create the maps in the National Trail guidebooks. The original maps in the National Trail guidebooks within Queensland were compiled and supplied by the Department of Lands, Queensland Government in 1987 for the publication in 1988 (first edition) and with some revisions in 1992 (second edition). Data Quality: Positional accuracy: If captured from 1:10 Provisional Cadastral Maps positional accuracy +- 250 metres and from 1:10 Standard Cadastral Maps positional accuracy +- 55 metres. Chris -- cbar...@pobox.com ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Outback Survey Charleville Qld
Hi, Just had an impromptu couple of days in Charleville, Qld and got some surveying done. It became clear early on that I needed a vehicle to get anything meaningful done, and was lucky in that I managed to get a 4WD from Avis. This also meant I managed to get a couple of trips in to Augenthella and Morven with the GPS on the dash. Had a brilliant time out there, if you get a chance go visit! Am still updating the map data over the next few days, but the result so far is at http://osm.org/go/uW6@q90z-- I've probably made a few errors, as my notes got a bit scrappy towards the end, please check it out and give me the heads up if you spot something obviously wrong! Cheers, Chris ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] label rendering errors at Fernvale Qld
Hi, at this link http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-27.4395lon=152.726zoom=14layers=M in Fernvale, there are two label oddities: 1) Bottom left - town label Fernvale appears, but the town is also labelled correctly up to the North East already (where the town is) 3) Top Right - Lake Manchester label appears, but the actual lake (and it's label) already appear to the South. Looking in Potlatch I can't see the source of these spurious labels, anyone know what's going on? Cheers, Chris ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes
Hi Andrew, On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 21:29, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: snip Are you moving to the fosm db? If so, great! Less problems with trying to merge your data into fosm, and we can all get back to mapping. Do you have any concerns over the switch? I have concerns. The FAQ here gives valid reasons to fork an open source project: http://fossfaq.com/questions/52/what-does-it-mean-to-fork-an-open-source-project and the multiple forks of OSM may have ignored the advice to only fork When you have exhausted all other options. Forks are not a guaranteed success. They may have good reasons, ideals and differing opinions, but the parent project has a brand, and for OSM it's a powerful one. As an example everyone has heard of MySQL, but what about Maria? Mysql - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mysql#Forks_of_MySQL Personally I don't care about the licence. I feel that the forks and this resulting dilution of effort will become a drain on all the projects (united we stand/divided etc etc), and have become a shouting match where the 'political' goals of the forked projects are trumpeted over the stated reason for the thing being there - an open map. Cries of We're more open don't help when you can't rustle up the hosting fees or development volunteers. So a fork must become popular. More popular than other forks or the parent project. Was this the real reason for your post with mention of FOSM (and no other OSM spin-offs), and seeding fear uncertainty and doubt regarding *possible* data deletion.. you were recruiting? I'd like to think all this rather dull licence bickering will play out and OSM will continue and strengthen. It's sad that people with agendas are talking up the 'possible' deletion of data, and rushing off to fork. That energy could have been used towards working on ways of keeping or replacing the data in OSM. A satisfactory local example where things turned out well is where Nearmap made it's generous offer to allow pre-existing data to remain under the new licence. However on this list there was little rejoicing, there was a lot of picking over the actual wording of their offer; looking at the legal-eze, hairsplitting terminology or imagined loopholes in order to justify the fork projects existence. Have fun. Cheers, Chas ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] A modest proposal fo OSM mailing list reform
On 21 May 2011 16:11, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: If people want to use a forum like interface, gmane.org does that I believe. I've used MarkMail for lists, and like it: http://goo.gl/Sv27p which is this less friendly/longer URL: http://markmail.org/search/?q=talk-au#query:talk-au%20list%3Aorg.openstreetmap.talk-au+page:1+state:facets Chris ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Barrier Reef Island Geographic Offset
Hi, On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 20:16, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: Brampton Island http://osm.org/go/vIwcP8wt- I saw these several hundred metre offsets on some Qld islands, when adding the National Parks, they gave me pause because I thought I may have made an error in projection or similar. I've not made any alterations, because I do not have any idea whether the possibly traced outline or the ABS boundaries are correct. I left them as is when uploading the NP's because I thought: 1) They could be correct (national parks into water; recently saw this in Sweden - here for example: http://osm.org/go/0ZvrKT1 ) 2) conflicting source input datasets/authorities - protected areas dataset from QLD govt and ABS from federal Govt - can't say which is correct 4) a survey would be impractical, and wouldn't resolve it because NP and ABS are political not geographic boundaries 5) Better to have the data than not Cheers, Chris ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Queensland, Australia: Protected areas (National Parks) - potential import dataset
Hi, I couldn't find any discussion of this dataset and it's suitability for import - it's the protected areas of Qld (National Parks, State Forests etc). I've had a look and wondered what people thought about moving it forward somehow?. I put this page together on the wiki with the info found so far to support this potential source: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australia/Queensland/The_Department_of_Environment_and_Resource_Management/Protected_Areas_Import What's the general consensus? Cheers, Chris ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Nominatim - Qld Admin area - 'Cape Moreton'
Hi, I've found something odd with Nominatim search in Qld. If you search for Brighton, Queensland on osm.org , open.mapquest.com.au or by using this link: http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/search?q=brighton+queenslandformat=xml the display result is: Brighton, 4017, Cape Moreton, Queensland, Australia Why does it have Cape Moreton in the result? Brighton is part of Brisbane City Council, (the admin boundary with Moreton Bay Council is out in the Bramble Bay channel I think.) Cape Moreton as a place is out on Moreton Island, so not an Admin area? Geoscience Australia Gazetteer entries for Cape Moreton: http://www.ga.gov.au/bin/gazm01?placename=cape+moretonplacetype=0state=QLD Wikipedia Cape Moreton entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Moreton Can anyone suggest what is going on with Nominatim? Cheers, Chris ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] ESRI online tool has OSM basemap
This seems interesting, ESRI have launched ArcGIS.com http://www.arcgis.com/home/ which has an online mapping toolset (Microsoft Silverlight plugin required) that allows you to use OpenStreetMap basemaps - I thought this was interesting as it is from a company that until the OSM Haiti remote mapping success hit the news, was perceived (by me), to have refused to acknowledge OpenStreetMap even existed :-) Cool - I do wonder if they are serving the tiles, or useing OSM bandwidth Chris ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Wivenhoe Dam missing - edit/render problem
Hi, Wivenhoe Dam in Queensland is not rendering at the moment; and I fear it might be my fault (the edit history is me anyway - hangs head in shame). I looked at the outline and noticed it wasn't a contiguous area, so fixed that, but it's still not rendering on the map. Can anyone fix it and also educate me on how I managed to mess it up? http://osm.org/go/ueEu4mc-- Cheers, Chris ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Wivenhoe Dam missing - edit/render problem
Thanks, I have separated the ways and it's fine now. Didn't spot that when I was trying to work out the problem. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:25, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: The area as it stands is comprised of two separate ways: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/23132054 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/52333734 both of which are tagged as landuse=reservoir. Cheers, Chris ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] White Cross painted on road - signifies what?
Hi, Whilst out getting GPS traces north of Brisbane I've noticed quite a few roads, usually at the end of a rural road, there will be a cross in white paint on the centre of road, sometimes with a bolt in the centre of the cross. Each arm of the cross is about a metre long. Anyone know what these are for? I saw another example yesterday on Mt Brisbane Road out by Mt Pleasant, this one not at the end of the road, but close to where I imagine the Mt Mee Section of D'Aguilar National Park boundary would be. I initially thought it might be to signify the end of council responsibility/ownership of the road, but then I wondered if perhaps they were for overhead (helicopter) geo-referencing? Cheers, Chris ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] White Cross painted on road - signifies what?
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:58, Chris Barham cbar...@pobox.com wrote: Hi, Whilst out getting GPS traces north of Brisbane I've noticed quite a few roads, usually at the end of a rural road, there will be a cross in white paint on the centre of road, sometimes with a bolt in the centre of the cross. Each arm of the cross is about a metre long. Anyone know what these are for? An example: Here's one on Nearmap at Ferny Grove : http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-27.39654,152.910356z=22t=knmd=20100123 Cheers, Chris ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] State forest areas - possible from DCDB-lite?
Hi, I've heard that the Qld DCDB-lite dataset has some cadastral information that can be used to populate OSM. Does this contain State Forests boundaries? If so, I'd like to understand the process to improve the OSM map around Benarkin by getting the forest tagged; so the question is how would one extract the correct area bounds for Benarkin state forest from DCDB? Refs: 2007 Govt Pdf map of forest extent: http://www.derm.qld.gov.au/register/p02554aa.pdf DERM Qld Govt page on Benarkin: http://www.derm.qld.gov.au/parks/benarkin/index.html OpenStreetmap area is here: http://osm.org/go/ueFPK5A Whereis has the forest extent in green here: http://j.mp/a0tgyr Cheers, Chris ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Intro video to OSM in Australia
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone on this list had any success approaching groups to encourage them to join? Can I make a suggestion that somebody approach Audax Australia as part of any outreach programme?. They do long cycle road rides in areas that OSM is unlikely to have many GPS traces for, but for which Audax could presumably use OSM mapping: http://audax.org.au/public/ Their club magazine, Checkpoint, is also looking for contributions on any topic related to endurance cycling (perhaps an OSM introduction would be a goodtopic ?): Checkpoint Contributing info: http://j.mp/6dy77x http://audax.org.au/public/Chris ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Intro video to OSM in Australia
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:57 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: there should be examples of these types of map data already in OSM's DB so we should be able to not only write on the topic but illistrate it as well. I can think of a potential 4wd example, LandCruiserPark. I remember thinking that OSM was pretty impressive for having the park tracks entered (although there is room for improvement in that the tracks have names that could be added): OSM tracks Map http://osm.org/go/u...@ajf- http://osm.org/go/u...@aj Their map: http://www.landcruisermountainpark.com.au/html/map.php Their website: http://www.landcruisermountainpark.com.au/ Chris ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:39 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: The 2 BP's along the Bruce Highway north of Brisbane aren't located properly either, it looks like they've simply used address to geo lookups and when the addresses are specific they co-ords go wonky, wonder if they want more accurate co-ords... I've found one that is almost 20km out - and wondered whether this is the worst one found so far?: http://www.bp.com/iframe.do?categoryId=9012436contentId=7017653 It's in the dataset as Lehmann Motors Coominya, but it's actually in Tarampa to the south south. I'm almost certain this is a geo-coding from address error, because the servo listed address is Main Street Tarampa, and the nearest occurrence of Main Street is in Coominya a fair bit further North. The new location in OSM is http://osm.org/go/ueB_yMDYg- I drove out there to check and be certain on the weekend so have removed the FIXME tag. Cheers, Chris ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Qld police stations - potential OSM bulk import
Hi,
I think I have found a good datasource for OSM, but I've run out of
steam trying to manipulate it. If there is agreement the data is
useful and legitimate; similar to the BP import, I wondered if I could
ask for help, perhaps reapplying Johns' BP import code/procedure to
this dataset?
Queensland Police Stations XML File at :
http://drop.io/8j7bxdi/asset/extractedpoliceqld-xml
The data is all Queensland police stations, as listed on
http://www.police.qld.gov.au/station-locator/stationIndex.asp
There are also index pages to police shops and neighbourhood beats,
but I have ignored these.
The Copyright statement at http://www.police.qld.gov.au/copyright.htm
says that QPS are keen on reuse, and just want attribution, which I
thought might be easily achieved via a source tag(?)
Each station has a code, which links to a dynamic page with more detail.
Once you have a station code from the index page you can retrieve and
parse the source from a URL like this:
http://www.police.qld.gov.au/station-locator/station_locator.asp?code=${code}
For OSM purposes, as well as the station pages visible data (name,
phone number, address, suburb), within the source for each station
HTML page, the Qld police are supplying a lat and lon to whereis for
them to use for icon placement in an embedded map on the page, I've
checked a few of these and they appear quite accurate, (i.e. not
geocoded from an address).
I made an attempt at extracting the police station data from HTML into
the pseudo-XML file at
http://drop.io/8j7bxdi/asset/extractedpoliceqld-xml
(some manual and some automated work), but got stuck:
1) What format to transform it to - OSM? with what tags? how?
2) Would be great to generate a fixme tag generated HTML page,
(similar to the the BP one) for people to easily jump to PotLatch and
check/review
3) de-duplication if station already there (merging etc?)
A possible output tag template(?):
node id='-1' action='create' visible='true' lat='${lat}' lon='${lon}'
tag k='amenity' v='police' /
tag k='phone' v='${phone}' /
tag k='name' v='${name}' /
tag k='QueenslandPolice:stationId' v='${code}' /
tag k='QueenslandPolice:address' v='${address}' /
tag k='QueenslandPolice:suburb' v='${suburb}' /
tag k='fixme' v='not_reviewed' /
tag k='source' v='Queensland Police Service' /
tag k='website'
v='http://www.police.qld.gov.au/station-locator/station_locator.asp?code=${code}'
/
/node
So, in short, I can't finish what I have started; If there is
agreement the data is useful and legitimate, could I hand it over to
someone else to import? :-)
Cheers,
Chris
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[talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?
ref: Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import? BP allows free download of GPS data for their Australian service stations. They also offer another CSV dataset download with servo phone numbers, names and address. Could these two be useful to OpenStreetMap as a datasource? The data URL: http://www.bp.com/iframe.do?categoryId=9026935contentId=7049357 I'd be interested in volunteering to bulk upload this data via an API; but as I've only recently joined the project, I'd be grateful for some guidance on whether this is a good idea and also what API to use and how to go about it. http://www.bp.com/iframe.do?categoryId=9026935contentId=7049357Regards, Chris ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
