Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Vector Tiles: ODbL and non-free data

2016-09-06 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
Tobias, note there are a few options for serving your own MVT pbf
tiles outside of the mapbox ecosystem. Check projects like
https://github.com/pka/t-rex and https://github.com/terranodo/tegola

Also, we just setup a Vector Tiles list on osgeo to discuss this type
of thing. https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/vector-tiles There
was a great BoF at FOSS4G Bonn and this type of question came up
already.

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Tobias Wendorff
 wrote:
> Am Di, 6.09.2016, 17:33 schrieb Michael Steffen:
>>
>> This should be totally fine. Feel free to reach out directly if you
>> want to talk in more detail.
>
> Yeah, I might contact you in the next days. A problem could be that I
> have to upload the non-free data to Mapbox. This might violate the data's
> copyright.
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Re: [OSM-talk] State of the Map 2016 Brussels: When? (Was: Help us make a logo! and win tickets to State of the Map 2016!)

2015-10-12 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
I would also echo the desire that this be near the beginning of the
month in September. FOSS4G is 24-26th, so as near to that as possible
would save additional travel for many of us that attend both.

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Stefan Keller  wrote:
> Hi Rob
>
> Thanks for your reply.
> September 2016 you say?
> I hope it's at the beginning of this month since at least the european
> academic year generally starts mid September.
> I'm looking forward to this promising event!
>
> Yours, Stefan
>
> 2015-10-12 19:11 GMT+02:00 Rob Nickerson :
>> Hi Stefan,
>>
>> Thanks for your concern. The SotM working group is in good shape and we are
>> currently dotting the last few i's and crossing the last few t's before we
>> announce the date of SotM 2016 in Brussels. Please accept my apology for the
>> delay. We have some folk who buy travel tickets/accommodation shortly after
>> the announcement so we need to ensure that everything is finalised before
>> announcing. We are looking at September so still plenty of time to organise
>> a great conference.
>>
>> Best
>> Rob
>> - SotM-WG lead
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Re: [Talk-us] BurningMan 2015

2015-07-30 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
Hi All,

Mikel and I added the first sets of streets into OSM many years ago
and I can assure you that the surveyed streets will match the defined
parameters with incredible precision. I.e. its fine to take the golden
spike and street radials and distances and calculate the street grid.

No time to help myself, sorry.

Jeff

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 11:09 AM, David Chiles dwalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 The satellite imagery is not correct since the city moves locations each
 year, as described by the golden spike info.

 I'm totally onboard with OpenStreetMap being for things that are on the
 ground. The city is being built now and the streets are being laid out. My
 question is more about whether generated streets are a good enough source
 for adding to OpenStreetMap since a survey is not possible.

 On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 6:25 AM, Andy Townsend ajt1...@gmail.com wrote:

 ‎(apologies if this has already been mentioned but) perhaps this is
 something that makes sense for OpenHistoricalMap?

 Ask a help question along the lines of how do I add time-dependant data
 to OHM, perhaps clarifying that the ways for previous years are in OSM but
 are deleted, and I'm sure someone will pop up and explain how.

 Cheers,
 Andy


   Original Message
 From: Frederik Ramm
 Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2015 10:46
 To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [Talk-us] BurningMan 2015

 Hi,

 On 07/29/2015 07:07 PM, David Chiles wrote:
  In the past Black Rock City was included in OpenStreetMap. Is the
  generated layout something that could be added?

 OpenStreetMap focuses on things that are on the ground, not things that
 were or will be on the ground.

 There are some exception to this, for example there are tags to map
 things that are planned but don't yet exist; this is not encouraged
 for widespread use but might be applicable to Burning Man.

 For maximum flexibility independent of OSM's old-fashioned adherence to
 physical realities, I'd suggest to set up your own instance of an OSM
 server together with editor(s) and rendering tool chain, which would
 enable you and anyone interested to make the most detailed Burning Man
 map ever, and even retain the full data base from every year, offer
 side-by-side rendering and whatnot.

 Bye
 Frederik

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[Talk-us] QGIS US User Group Meeting before SotM US

2014-03-17 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
Hi Folks,

Wanted to let everyone know that we scheduled the inaugural QGIS US
User Group Meeting the day before the State of the Map US at
OpenGovHub in DC. http://qgis.us/#meetings You are all welcome to join
us.

Also, if someone is up for giving a talk or even a short workshop on
using QGIS with OSM Data that would be awesome. Contact me off-list if
you are up for that.

See you all in DC,

Jeff

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Re: [Talk-us] Locations for State of the Map US 2014

2013-11-13 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
What about DC that time of year? I'd really like to see more cooperation among 
USG agencies using and contributing to OSM and that may be a great time/place 
to kick that off. I'm sure Bonnie et al wouldn't object ;) I believe my 
employer (boundless) would be willing to help organize if it was close to home.

 On Nov 13, 2013, at 5:14, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Jeff,
 
 We didn't receive any location proposals, so we're working on locations and 
 will announce when we have something set up.
 
 Since the global SotM event is usually held in the second half of the year 
 we've moved the time frame for SotM US up to Spring so that it's not too 
 close to the global event. This puts us in March-May and FOSS4G is in 
 September. Also, we've already had a SotM in Portland and while it was pretty 
 darn great, we're trying to spread the love to other cities, too.
 
 -Ian
 
 On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:21 AM, Jeffrey Johnson ortel...@gmail.com wrote:
 According to the CfP, the decision should have been made by the end of last 
 month. Anyone have any idea where the decision making progress is at? Also 
 curious why it couldn't be held in the fall in conjunction with FOSS4G in 
 Portland? Haven't heard much of anything on the global event either at this 
 point.
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
 Jeff
 
 On Friday, September 13, 2013, Bonnie Bogle wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 The call for locations for State of the Map US 2014 is open! Find out all 
 about it on the openstreetmap.us blog:
 
 http://openstreetmap.us/2013/09/call-for-locations-sotm-us/
 
 State of the Map US is a great opportunity to bring US and international 
 mappers together with folks from government, business, nonprofit, 
 education, and more. It's about coming together and discussing the future 
 of OpenStreetMap, and about bringing OpenStreetMap to a wider audience to 
 grow it in numbers and diversity. This coming year we're aiming for a 
 Spring date in March through May.
 
 We look forward to your submissions!
 
 Cheers,
 Bonnie
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Re: [Talk-us] Locations for State of the Map US 2014

2013-11-13 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
Ok, let me ask a few folks what they think, including Bonnie, and I'll get back 
to the list. What are the preferred dates?

 On Nov 13, 2013, at 5:29, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Jeff,
 
 If you or someone at Boundless (or someone else in DC) would like to put 
 together a proposal for DC, those of us on the board would be happy to read 
 it! What we need in a proposal can be found here: 
 http://openstreetmap.us/2013/09/call-for-locations-sotm-us/
 
 We'll need a very quick turnaround, but let us know if you start working on a 
 proposal and we'll give you a sense of our timeline.
 
 Thanks!
 Kathleen
 
 
 On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Jeffrey Johnson ortel...@gmail.com wrote:
 What about DC that time of year? I'd really like to see more cooperation 
 among USG agencies using and contributing to OSM and that may be a great 
 time/place to kick that off. I'm sure Bonnie et al wouldn't object ;) I 
 believe my employer (boundless) would be willing to help organize if it was 
 close to home.
 
 On Nov 13, 2013, at 5:14, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Jeff,
 
 We didn't receive any location proposals, so we're working on locations and 
 will announce when we have something set up.
 
 Since the global SotM event is usually held in the second half of the year 
 we've moved the time frame for SotM US up to Spring so that it's not too 
 close to the global event. This puts us in March-May and FOSS4G is in 
 September. Also, we've already had a SotM in Portland and while it was 
 pretty darn great, we're trying to spread the love to other cities, too.
 
 -Ian
 
 On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:21 AM, Jeffrey Johnson ortel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 According to the CfP, the decision should have been made by the end of 
 last month. Anyone have any idea where the decision making progress is at? 
 Also curious why it couldn't be held in the fall in conjunction with 
 FOSS4G in Portland? Haven't heard much of anything on the global event 
 either at this point.
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
 Jeff
 
 On Friday, September 13, 2013, Bonnie Bogle wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 The call for locations for State of the Map US 2014 is open! Find out all 
 about it on the openstreetmap.us blog:
 
 http://openstreetmap.us/2013/09/call-for-locations-sotm-us/
 
 State of the Map US is a great opportunity to bring US and international 
 mappers together with folks from government, business, nonprofit, 
 education, and more. It's about coming together and discussing the future 
 of OpenStreetMap, and about bringing OpenStreetMap to a wider audience to 
 grow it in numbers and diversity. This coming year we're aiming for a 
 Spring date in March through May.
 
 We look forward to your submissions!
 
 Cheers,
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Re: [Talk-us] Locations for State of the Map US 2014

2013-11-13 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
Ok well don't let me get in your way! DC is always just a pretty easy default 
location and Boundless (OpenGeo) has organized conferences there before with 
MapBox. Happy to help if we can.

 On Nov 13, 2013, at 5:37, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 If we're going to be getting proposals from folks, I think I'd like to see 
 that within a week, so 11/20 at the latest. We're moving very quickly on our 
 end to come up with viable solutions, so I don't want to delay. I hope you 
 understand!
 
 
 On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Jeffrey Johnson ortel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok, let me ask a few folks what they think, including Bonnie, and I'll get 
 back to the list. What are the preferred dates?
 
 On Nov 13, 2013, at 5:29, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Jeff,
 
 If you or someone at Boundless (or someone else in DC) would like to put 
 together a proposal for DC, those of us on the board would be happy to read 
 it! What we need in a proposal can be found here: 
 http://openstreetmap.us/2013/09/call-for-locations-sotm-us/
 
 We'll need a very quick turnaround, but let us know if you start working on 
 a proposal and we'll give you a sense of our timeline.
 
 Thanks!
 Kathleen
 
 
 On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Jeffrey Johnson ortel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 What about DC that time of year? I'd really like to see more cooperation 
 among USG agencies using and contributing to OSM and that may be a great 
 time/place to kick that off. I'm sure Bonnie et al wouldn't object ;) I 
 believe my employer (boundless) would be willing to help organize if it 
 was close to home.
 
 On Nov 13, 2013, at 5:14, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Jeff,
 
 We didn't receive any location proposals, so we're working on locations 
 and will announce when we have something set up.
 
 Since the global SotM event is usually held in the second half of the 
 year we've moved the time frame for SotM US up to Spring so that it's not 
 too close to the global event. This puts us in March-May and FOSS4G is in 
 September. Also, we've already had a SotM in Portland and while it was 
 pretty darn great, we're trying to spread the love to other cities, too.
 
 -Ian
 
 On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:21 AM, Jeffrey Johnson ortel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 According to the CfP, the decision should have been made by the end of 
 last month. Anyone have any idea where the decision making progress is 
 at? Also curious why it couldn't be held in the fall in conjunction with 
 FOSS4G in Portland? Haven't heard much of anything on the global event 
 either at this point.
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
 Jeff
 
 On Friday, September 13, 2013, Bonnie Bogle wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 The call for locations for State of the Map US 2014 is open! Find out 
 all about it on the openstreetmap.us blog:
 
 http://openstreetmap.us/2013/09/call-for-locations-sotm-us/
 
 State of the Map US is a great opportunity to bring US and 
 international mappers together with folks from government, business, 
 nonprofit, education, and more. It's about coming together and 
 discussing the future of OpenStreetMap, and about bringing 
 OpenStreetMap to a wider audience to grow it in numbers and diversity. 
 This coming year we're aiming for a Spring date in March through May.
 
 We look forward to your submissions!
 
 Cheers,
 Bonnie
 
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Re: [Talk-us] Locations for State of the Map US 2014

2013-11-13 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
Y'all can come see me in San Diego if you just want to get warm :)

Ian, Chicago sounds great tbh, who could potentially arrange that?

I'm sure the board are already looking at good locations, throwing DC out there 
because it's probably easy to pull off and would be awesome.

 On Nov 13, 2013, at 5:51, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Personally, I'm angling for Honolulu.
 
 
 On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Eric Theise ericthe...@gmail.com wrote:
 No question DC could host SotM US in style, but I'd be thrilled to see
 it move to the heartland. Too big of a stretch for it to be in
 Chicago?
 
 Eric
 
 On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:41 AM, Jeffrey Johnson ortel...@gmail.com wrote:
  Ok well don't let me get in your way! DC is always just a pretty easy
  default location and Boundless (OpenGeo) has organized conferences there
  before with MapBox. Happy to help if we can.
 
  On Nov 13, 2013, at 5:37, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  If we're going to be getting proposals from folks, I think I'd like to see
  that within a week, so 11/20 at the latest. We're moving very quickly on 
  our
  end to come up with viable solutions, so I don't want to delay. I hope you
  understand!
 
 
  On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Jeffrey Johnson ortel...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
 
  Ok, let me ask a few folks what they think, including Bonnie, and I'll get
  back to the list. What are the preferred dates?
 
  On Nov 13, 2013, at 5:29, Kathleen Danielson
  kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Jeff,
 
  If you or someone at Boundless (or someone else in DC) would like to put
  together a proposal for DC, those of us on the board would be happy to 
  read
  it! What we need in a proposal can be found here:
  http://openstreetmap.us/2013/09/call-for-locations-sotm-us/
 
  We'll need a very quick turnaround, but let us know if you start working
  on a proposal and we'll give you a sense of our timeline.
 
  Thanks!
  Kathleen
 
 
  On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Jeffrey Johnson ortel...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  What about DC that time of year? I'd really like to see more cooperation
  among USG agencies using and contributing to OSM and that may be a great
  time/place to kick that off. I'm sure Bonnie et al wouldn't object ;) I
  believe my employer (boundless) would be willing to help organize if it 
  was
  close to home.
 
  On Nov 13, 2013, at 5:14, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Jeff,
 
  We didn't receive any location proposals, so we're working on locations
  and will announce when we have something set up.
 
  Since the global SotM event is usually held in the second half of the
  year we've moved the time frame for SotM US up to Spring so that it's not
  too close to the global event. This puts us in March-May and FOSS4G is in
  September. Also, we've already had a SotM in Portland and while it was
  pretty darn great, we're trying to spread the love to other cities, too.
 
  -Ian
 
  On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:21 AM, Jeffrey Johnson ortel...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  According to the CfP, the decision should have been made by the end of
  last month. Anyone have any idea where the decision making progress is 
  at?
  Also curious why it couldn't be held in the fall in conjunction with 
  FOSS4G
  in Portland? Haven't heard much of anything on the global event either 
  at
  this point.
 
  Thanks in advance!
 
  Jeff
 
  On Friday, September 13, 2013, Bonnie Bogle wrote:
 
  Hi everyone,
  The call for locations for State of the Map US 2014 is open! Find out
  all about it on the openstreetmap.us blog:
 
  http://openstreetmap.us/2013/09/call-for-locations-sotm-us/
 
  State of the Map US is a great opportunity to bring US and
  international mappers together with folks from government, business,
  nonprofit, education, and more. It's about coming together and 
  discussing
  the future of OpenStreetMap, and about bringing OpenStreetMap to a 
  wider
  audience to grow it in numbers and diversity. This coming year we're 
  aiming
  for a Spring date in March through May.
 
  We look forward to your submissions!
 
  Cheers,
  Bonnie
 
 
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Re: [Talk-us] Locations for State of the Map US 2014

2013-11-13 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
I meant the more 'global' SotM, not sure what the plan is for that in
the fall. Its been very close to FOSS4G for the last several
iterations, and wondering if that will be the case again in portland?

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Darrell Fuhriman darr...@garnix.org wrote:

 On Nov 12, 2013, at 10:21 PM, Jeffrey Johnson ortel...@gmail.com wrote:

  Also curious why it couldn't be held in the fall in conjunction with FOSS4G 
 in Portland? Haven't heard much of anything on the global event either at 
 this point.


 If by global event you mean FOSS4G and not SOTM, rest assured we're cranking 
 away on getting things ready. There should be some exciting announcements in 
 the near future.

 Darrell



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Re: [Talk-us] Locations for State of the Map US 2014

2013-11-13 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
St. Louis sounds great! I've actually never visited there. One other
place that could be super interesting is Research Triangle in NC. I've
met up with quite a large number of people from the Code for America
community there including in each of Cities and their brigades etc and
they are all doing pretty progressive civic innovation stuff. Not sure
about the size of the actual OSM community there, but it would be
close enough to draw in the USG crowd, which is one of the main
reasons I am particularly interested in DC.

Im also very +1 on Universities or inexpensive facilities. St. Louis
is also home to NGA which is (quietly) a large consumer of OSM data
now.

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Darrell Fuhriman darr...@garnix.org wrote:
 Having recently visited St Louis, I think that would be a great location. 
 Inexpensive, well connected by air, and with several charming, walkable 
 neighborhoods. Plus there are a number of Universities that might have 
 inexpensive facilities.

 I would prefer that to expensive cities like Chicago and especially DC. And 
 since I think a lot of people, like me, pay to attend out of their own 
 pocket, cheap lodging is a big plus. (SF was a great conference, but brutal 
 on the pocketbook).

 d.



 On Nov 13, 2013, at 5:48, Eric Theise ericthe...@gmail.com wrote:

 No question DC could host SotM US in style, but I'd be thrilled to see
 it move to the heartland. Too big of a stretch for it to be in
 Chicago?

 Eric

 On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:41 AM, Jeffrey Johnson ortel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok well don't let me get in your way! DC is always just a pretty easy
 default location and Boundless (OpenGeo) has organized conferences there
 before with MapBox. Happy to help if we can.

 On Nov 13, 2013, at 5:37, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 If we're going to be getting proposals from folks, I think I'd like to see
 that within a week, so 11/20 at the latest. We're moving very quickly on our
 end to come up with viable solutions, so I don't want to delay. I hope you
 understand!


 On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Jeffrey Johnson ortel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Ok, let me ask a few folks what they think, including Bonnie, and I'll get
 back to the list. What are the preferred dates?

 On Nov 13, 2013, at 5:29, Kathleen Danielson
 kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Jeff,

 If you or someone at Boundless (or someone else in DC) would like to put
 together a proposal for DC, those of us on the board would be happy to read
 it! What we need in a proposal can be found here:
 http://openstreetmap.us/2013/09/call-for-locations-sotm-us/

 We'll need a very quick turnaround, but let us know if you start working
 on a proposal and we'll give you a sense of our timeline.

 Thanks!
 Kathleen


 On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Jeffrey Johnson ortel...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 What about DC that time of year? I'd really like to see more cooperation
 among USG agencies using and contributing to OSM and that may be a great
 time/place to kick that off. I'm sure Bonnie et al wouldn't object ;) I
 believe my employer (boundless) would be willing to help organize if it 
 was
 close to home.

 On Nov 13, 2013, at 5:14, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Jeff,

 We didn't receive any location proposals, so we're working on locations
 and will announce when we have something set up.

 Since the global SotM event is usually held in the second half of the
 year we've moved the time frame for SotM US up to Spring so that it's not
 too close to the global event. This puts us in March-May and FOSS4G is in
 September. Also, we've already had a SotM in Portland and while it was
 pretty darn great, we're trying to spread the love to other cities, too.

 -Ian

 On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:21 AM, Jeffrey Johnson ortel...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 According to the CfP, the decision should have been made by the end of
 last month. Anyone have any idea where the decision making progress is 
 at?
 Also curious why it couldn't be held in the fall in conjunction with 
 FOSS4G
 in Portland? Haven't heard much of anything on the global event either at
 this point.

 Thanks in advance!

 Jeff

 On Friday, September 13, 2013, Bonnie Bogle wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 The call for locations for State of the Map US 2014 is open! Find out
 all about it on the openstreetmap.us blog:

 http://openstreetmap.us/2013/09/call-for-locations-sotm-us/

 State of the Map US is a great opportunity to bring US and
 international mappers together with folks from government, business,
 nonprofit, education, and more. It's about coming together and 
 discussing
 the future of OpenStreetMap, and about bringing OpenStreetMap to a wider
 audience to grow it in numbers and diversity. This coming year we're 
 aiming
 for a Spring date in March through May.

 We look forward to your submissions!

 Cheers,
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Re: [Talk-us] Locations for State of the Map US 2014

2013-11-13 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
+1 on both of those too (Perhaps a small preference for Chicago), but
understand the concerns about them being pricey for some people. . Still
very happy to help.


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:40 PM, alyssa wright alyssapwri...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks for the information. Excited to help with any NYC event as well.

 Best,
 Alyssa.


 On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote:

 Jeff, Alyssa, Kathleen -

  According to the CfP, the decision should have been made by the end of
 last month.

 That's right and we're very close to nailing down NYC or Chicago. We're
 about to hear back final numbers from a series of venues we've researched
 and reached out to. This will allow us to come up with a final budget and a
 decision on where to do SOTM-US in 2014. I'd love to keep focused on
 closing this down for 2014 in one of those two cities.

 Alex



 On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:16 PM, alyssa wright 
 alyssapwri...@gmail.comwrote:

 Happy to help as well! Jeff can keep my todo list active, I'm sure.


 On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Jeffrey Johnson ortel...@gmail.comwrote:

 Im willing to help Brett. Def +1 on St Louis. I have a colleague that
 lives there as well that may be able to offer some support. Let me know how
 we get started.


 On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Brett Lord-Castillo 
 blordcasti...@gmail.com wrote:

  We're just getting our feet wet with an organized group here in St
 Louis. We do have several venues of just the right size:
 Ballrooms at the Amercia's Center complex (on Washington Ave and
 includes Edward Jones Dome where Ram's play)
 Union Station Hotel
 Millennium Hotel next to the Arch
 Renaissance Grand on Washington Ave (main nightlife area and several
 tech businesses)
 Hilton at the Ballpark (adjacent to Busch Stadium)
 Those are just the major ones, probably a half dozen more venues in
 the downtown area (e.g.
 http://explorestlouis.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Downtown-Convention-Package-Map-3-14-13.pdf
 )
 WUSTL is outside the downtown area, but only a metrolink ride away.
 Their biggest meeting space only hosts 375 though.
 The Busch Student Center at St Louis University can handle up to 1600
 too. It has access to the arts district, but is a bit pricey for external
 events.

 Even with the number of venues, it can still be very difficult to find
 an open venue in spring. If people are interested in this idea, I think I
 can get some help putting together a proposal but would need others to 
 work
 on it.
 --Brett Lord-Castillo
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 Having recently visited St Louis, I think that would be a great
 location. Inexpensive, well connected by air, and with several charming,
 walkable neighborhoods. Plus there are a number of Universities that 
 might
 have inexpensive facilities.

 I would prefer that to expensive cities like Chicago and especially
 DC. And since I think a lot of people, like me, pay to attend out of 
 their
 own pocket, cheap lodging is a big plus. (SF was a great conference, but
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Re: [Talk-us] Locations for State of the Map US 2014

2013-11-12 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
According to the CfP, the decision should have been made by the end of last
month. Anyone have any idea where the decision making progress is at? Also
curious why it couldn't be held in the fall in conjunction with FOSS4G in
Portland? Haven't heard much of anything on the global event either at this
point.

Thanks in advance!

Jeff

On Friday, September 13, 2013, Bonnie Bogle wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 The call for locations for State of the Map US 2014 is open! Find out all
 about it on the openstreetmap.us blog:

 http://openstreetmap.us/2013/09/call-for-locations-sotm-us/

 State of the Map US is a great opportunity to bring US and international
 mappers together with folks from government, business, nonprofit,
 education, and more. It's about coming together and discussing the future
 of OpenStreetMap, and about bringing OpenStreetMap to a wider audience to
 grow it in numbers and diversity. This coming year we're aiming for a
 Spring date in March through May.

 We look forward to your submissions!

 Cheers,
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Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
Hi All,

Mikel and I did the original mapping, and its now a few years out of
date. I have access to the data for this year, but its always a
sensitive topic about when it can be released. Let me do a little bit
of research and report back in a few days.

Jeff

On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Elliott Plack elliott.pl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just as a note of interest, on my way to SOTMUS this year in San Francisco,
 I'm pretty sure we flew over Black Rock City. I took some pictures out of
 the plane window: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/kfjpmgydqcser3v/tqkMPNPrCw
 (link to pictures).

 -Elliott


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 kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote:

 I only know a little about Burning Man (seriously, just what I read in
 Cory Doctorow's Homeland), but mapping BRC makes sense to me.

 Is it on the exact same location every year? In that case it seems like it
 would make sense to update the map annually. If they are on different parts
 of the dessert each year, it would probably make sense to map each one, but
 once the city is torn down, modify the tags to indicate a past structure.
 The Historical OSM folks would probably have better guidance on the best way
 to do this.

 Either way, it seems like this could be a really neat way to preserve
 Black Rock City.

 Are any OSM folks going to be at Burning Man this year?


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 wrote:

 So Black Rock City is mapped on OpenStreetMap... twice. And both are old
 versions (the city as it was in 2008 and 2009). Anyone know why this is?
 Should the two old cities be deleted and replaced with the 2013 city?

 I have a feeling that this could be a fun publicity opportunity for OSM,
 if we're the first ones to map out Black Rock City during Burning Man. Not
 to mention that the kind of people who go to Burning Man would probably
 rather support OSM over Google Maps, given someone tells them about OSM. It
 brings in people from everywhere, so ideally they could go back to their
 respective communities and possibly get more involved in local OSM mapping.

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Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com wrote:
 Black Rock City moves slightly each year, to minimize impact on any 
 particular spot in the playa. The streets are also given new names, and the 
 city expands to accommodate additional population growth. It's effectively a 
 totally new geography each time.

 Mikel has been involved in the project in the past, and been given advance 
 private access to survey shapefiles.

Yup, we have them for this year already, but are not always allowed to
release them without permission. Will report back ASAP.

 -mike.

 On Aug 5, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Kathleen Danielson wrote:

 I only know a little about Burning Man (seriously, just what I read in Cory 
 Doctorow's Homeland), but mapping BRC makes sense to me.

 Is it on the exact same location every year? In that case it seems like it 
 would make sense to update the map annually. If they are on different parts 
 of the dessert each year, it would probably make sense to map each one, but 
 once the city is torn down, modify the tags to indicate a past structure. 
 The Historical OSM folks would probably have better guidance on the best way 
 to do this.

 Either way, it seems like this could be a really neat way to preserve Black 
 Rock City.

 Are any OSM folks going to be at Burning Man this year?


 On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Clay Smalley claysmal...@gmail.com wrote:
 So Black Rock City is mapped on OpenStreetMap... twice. And both are old 
 versions (the city as it was in 2008 and 2009). Anyone know why this is? 
 Should the two old cities be deleted and replaced with the 2013 city?

 I have a feeling that this could be a fun publicity opportunity for OSM, if 
 we're the first ones to map out Black Rock City during Burning Man. Not to 
 mention that the kind of people who go to Burning Man would probably rather 
 support OSM over Google Maps, given someone tells them about OSM. It brings 
 in people from everywhere, so ideally they could go back to their respective 
 communities and possibly get more involved in local OSM mapping.

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Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
I believe we have data all the way back to 2006 and have the
information needed to construct them for past years all the way back
to the first year in the desert. Kathleen, you can follow up with
Andrew Johnstone and...@adjohnstone.com as he is closest to the BRC
org and can help track that stuff down.

Have fun!

Jeff

On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Kathleen Danielson
kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Do we have shapefiles for previous years? Even if we can't do 2013 yet it
 might be fun to work on the last couple of years.


 On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Jeffrey Johnson ortel...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com wrote:
  Black Rock City moves slightly each year, to minimize impact on any
  particular spot in the playa. The streets are also given new names, and the
  city expands to accommodate additional population growth. It's effectively 
  a
  totally new geography each time.
 
  Mikel has been involved in the project in the past, and been given
  advance private access to survey shapefiles.

 Yup, we have them for this year already, but are not always allowed to
 release them without permission. Will report back ASAP.

  -mike.
 
  On Aug 5, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Kathleen Danielson wrote:
 
  I only know a little about Burning Man (seriously, just what I read in
  Cory Doctorow's Homeland), but mapping BRC makes sense to me.
 
  Is it on the exact same location every year? In that case it seems like
  it would make sense to update the map annually. If they are on different
  parts of the dessert each year, it would probably make sense to map each
  one, but once the city is torn down, modify the tags to indicate a past
  structure. The Historical OSM folks would probably have better guidance on
  the best way to do this.
 
  Either way, it seems like this could be a really neat way to preserve
  Black Rock City.
 
  Are any OSM folks going to be at Burning Man this year?
 
 
  On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Clay Smalley claysmal...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  So Black Rock City is mapped on OpenStreetMap... twice. And both are
  old versions (the city as it was in 2008 and 2009). Anyone know why this 
  is?
  Should the two old cities be deleted and replaced with the 2013 city?
 
  I have a feeling that this could be a fun publicity opportunity for
  OSM, if we're the first ones to map out Black Rock City during Burning 
  Man.
  Not to mention that the kind of people who go to Burning Man would 
  probably
  rather support OSM over Google Maps, given someone tells them about OSM. 
  It
  brings in people from everywhere, so ideally they could go back to their
  respective communities and possibly get more involved in local OSM 
  mapping.
 
  Just ranting a pipe dream. Does this sound realistic?
 
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Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
He was certainly involved back then, but like me, his interest in
BM/BRC has dropped off a bit. I've connected Migurski with the people
in the Bay Area that have all the data and hoping he can help get
everything together so it can go into the map.

Jeff

On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm almost certain that Mikel was involved in one, or both of those '08/'09
 efforts to map Black Rock City. Worth contacting him about what it would
 take to re-do it for 2013.

 -- SEJ
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  On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Clay Smalley claysmal...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  So Black Rock City is mapped on OpenStreetMap... twice. And both are old
  versions (the city as it was in 2008 and 2009). Anyone know why this is?
  Should the two old cities be deleted and replaced with the 2013 city?
 
  I have a feeling that this could be a fun publicity opportunity for OSM,
  if we're the first ones to map out Black Rock City during Burning Man. Not
  to mention that the kind of people who go to Burning Man would probably
  rather support OSM over Google Maps, given someone tells them about OSM. It
  brings in people from everywhere, so ideally they could go back to their
  respective communities and possibly get more involved in local OSM mapping.
 
  Just ranting a pipe dream. Does this sound realistic?
 
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Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

2013-08-05 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
No worries, I will see if I can get the data together and pass it off
to someone that can do something with it. Potentially Mikel.

On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com wrote:
 I'd love to help with this, but I'm not much of a burner (first  last: 2001) 
 so I won't be able to follow up. Sorry!

 -mike.

 On Aug 5, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Jeffrey Johnson wrote:

 He was certainly involved back then, but like me, his interest in
 BM/BRC has dropped off a bit. I've connected Migurski with the people
 in the Bay Area that have all the data and hoping he can help get
 everything together so it can go into the map.

 Jeff

 On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm almost certain that Mikel was involved in one, or both of those '08/'09
 efforts to map Black Rock City. Worth contacting him about what it would
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 -- SEJ
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 -- skype: sejohnson8

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 wrote:
 So Black Rock City is mapped on OpenStreetMap... twice. And both are old
 versions (the city as it was in 2008 and 2009). Anyone know why this is?
 Should the two old cities be deleted and replaced with the 2013 city?

 I have a feeling that this could be a fun publicity opportunity for OSM,
 if we're the first ones to map out Black Rock City during Burning Man. Not
 to mention that the kind of people who go to Burning Man would probably
 rather support OSM over Google Maps, given someone tells them about OSM. 
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Re: [Talk-us] Shining example of OSM use, tarnished.

2013-08-01 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
Its 'functional' but pretty borked for me too.

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s1/sh/d2ead5d7-588a-4486-b6ac-467c5055e164/5da6e8e37dac443f300725b70e75b1f1

Maybe Ian Dees knows who to get in touch with?

On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Dale Puch dale.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 It seems to be functional for me.  Is is not loading tiles for you or is it
 some other issue?  What do you mean by broken images?


 On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote:

 Dear US OSM enthusiasts:

 Out Whitehouse is using OpenStreetMap:
 http://www.whitehouse.gov/change
 Uses CloudMade tiles and OpenLayers to display a... broken map... with
 broken images.

 I've emailed the whitehouse webmaster without effect.  Is anyone aware of
 how this
 map came to be placed here, and who we might contact to get it fixed up as
 a positive
 example of OSM, rather than a negative one?

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Re: [OSM-talk] State of the Map 2013 venue selected.

2013-02-16 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
I realize my opinion probably doesn't count for much, but I'm curious if
there is a reason this couldn't be held the following weekend (13-15) so
that those of us already traveling to the UK for FOSS4G (17-21) dont have a
whole week in between.

Jeff

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:

 ... but I don't want to spoil the surprise.  So don't read the link before
 you click it.  :-)

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Re: [OSM-talk] State of the Map 2013 venue selected.

2013-02-16 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
Thanks for the explanation, unfortunately many people including me will
probably have to make a choice between the two rather than both. Alas.

Jeff

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Shaun McDonald
sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.ukwrote:

 It was due to the combination of costs, availability and suitability of
 venues. The best venue wasn't available a week later. Other venues weren't
 as suitable for the conference and would have cost significantly more.

 Shaun

 On 16 Feb 2013, at 23:04, Jeffrey Johnson ortel...@gmail.com wrote:

 I realize my opinion probably doesn't count for much, but I'm curious if
 there is a reason this couldn't be held the following weekend (13-15) so
 that those of us already traveling to the UK for FOSS4G (17-21) dont have a
 whole week in between.

 Jeff

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 ... but I don't want to spoil the surprise.  So don't read the link
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Re: [OSM-talk] State of the Map 2013 venue selected.

2013-02-16 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
Its not that, its convincing my wife to let me be away for 1 week vs 2 :)

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote:

 Jeffrey Johnson writes:
   Thanks for the explanation, unfortunately many people including me will
   probably have to make a choice between the two rather than both. Alas.

 You can't think of ANYTHING to do in the UK for a week???

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Re: [OSM-talk] State of the Map 2013 venue selected.

2013-02-16 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
Just want to be clear, wasn't complaining, just wondering, and got a
sufficient answer. Ill try to find some way to make both :)

On Feb 16, 2013, at 20:15, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Jeffrey Johnson ortel...@gmail.com wrote:

 I realize my opinion probably doesn't count for much, but I'm curious if
 there is a reason this couldn't be held the following weekend (13-15) so
 that those of us already traveling to the UK for FOSS4G (17-21) dont have a
 whole week in between.


Hey Jeff,

I can't tell you anything about SotM 2013, as I'm not involved in any way,
but I have organized conferences before.  And I can tell you that
organizing a conference is an essentially[1] thankless job.  There are
always too many compromises as Shaun describes.  (un) available venues and
/ or hotel blocks, and dozens of other moving parts, etc.  As an organizer
you can do everything you think of to appeal to as wide an audience as
possible and you can still end up with complaints like, That venue will
take me 45 minutes on public transit from $home, so I'm not going, while
others will happily travel six times that distance by carpool and thank you
with a beer.  There is just no telling.

It is, in fact, _impossible_ to please _everybody_ with conference
selections. And with a volunteer organized conference, we can only thank
the organizers for their service on our behalf.   That's all we can do for
a paid / professional conference organizer as well.  But there is no way to
reduce the number of complaints or or compromises, just by paying the
organizers.  :-)

Best regards,
Richard.

[1] you'll get thanks and criticisms in approximately equal quantities, but
the criticisms will each cut you to to the quick.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Harming the community

2011-12-14 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
How do I +1 a mailing list post??

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote:
 It seems every six months or so, a new set of license troll
 discussions come up.

 It's the same people. I can name names if necessary, but I think the
 old timers mostly know who the trolls are by now.

 They suck energy from the lists, they suck energy from the projects.
 They criticize the process, they say moving forward is harming the
 community. They bitch, they moan, they are helpful, they throw up
 procedural roadblocks.

 And they get old timers involved, and newbies confused/scared, and I'm
 sick of it.


 OSMF- stop being wimps and start standing up for the project. Stop
 hiding behind procedure, and start working toward cohesion and
 momentum. Free discussion is important, but allowing a community to do
 its work is also important, and when the same trolls infect the lists
 over and over, it's time to say no, and to confront their nonsense
 with clear facts, clear communication, and clear action.

 I suggest that, for the immediate situation, a few things happen:

 1. The LWG appoint a single person to speak for the LWG/OSMF on this
 matter. That one person can make definitive statements, and not be
 stiffled with committee talk.

 2. The LWG put out clear guidelines on what's happening, when, and
 how. What data will be removed, how we can identify it, when it's
 going away, and how we can fix it.

 3. The list moderators need to step up and do their jobs. This
 nonsense is disruptive and it needs to end. Discussion is fine, but
 inflammatory language and lies are not.


 I'm feeling quite frustrated. I care about this project and I'm
 needing to be able to be productive, and this stuff seriously detracts
 from being able to accomplish that.

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Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
This was *directly* proposed to Google for a specific country (details
have to remain private for now). It was even proposed to collect data
into a neutral database and 'publish' it into both MM and OSM ... they
said flat out they were not interested. It occurs to me that they
simply want to own the data if they are going to participate in this
kind of thing. So, 'sharing' is a non-starter.

Jeff

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:
 Could we perhaps work together with Google by organizing joint mapping parties
 where the resulting data is added to both maps?

 Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and as with other pseudo-free map
 projects like People's Map, we should take this as a vindication of the OSM
 approach.  I can appreciate that it really sucks when they copy ideas and 
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Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-30 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote:
 Ian Dees writes:
   Try
   
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=43.1789745390415lon=-78.7073448300362zoom=21
  
   (z=1 doesn't make it very interesting :))

 Yeah, cut-n-paste left off the '8' of '18'.

   I wonder if that's from a (gov't) digitization and subsequent (user)
   import... pretty wild! How the heck did you find that?

 No, it's a real hedge. It's about the size of a baseball infield, with
 the hedges being about a foot high.

I totally did not believe this ... but lo and behold.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qsource=s_qhl=engeocode=q=43.1789745390415+-78.7073448300362aq=sll=37.0625,-95.677068sspn=38.008397,61.787109ie=UTF8ll=43.178878,-78.708273spn=0.00107,0.001886t=hz=19

Bizzare, but yes, very cool.



 I was just looking around Lockport for road alignments needed, and
 spotted it in the park. I looked around other places in Lockport and
 didn't notice anything similar.

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Re: [Talk-us] How to use 2010 NAIP imagery for tracing?

2010-11-26 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
There are folks at telascience working on standing up the NAIP imagery there.

http://hyperquad.telascience.org/naip/

You should be able to get a josm compatible wms enpoint from that app.

New states are being added, there is a status doc here.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AttcuAb2ejFQdGFrNlRoS3gtMTAxaGtOWkxRY0pYYWchl=en#gid=4

What state in particular are you interested in?

Jeff

On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
 The WMS URLs on
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/National_Agriculture_Imagery_Program
 don't have the latest imagery available from NAIP, which is
 downloadable as huge (1 gig) georeferenced MrSID files. Is there any
 way to use these as a background for tracing?

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Re: [OSM-talk] haiti - before/after

2010-03-23 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikel_maron/

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Joe Gerlach joe.gerl...@jesus.ox.ac.uk wrote:
 Hi there - can anyone point me in the direction of before/after earthquake
 OSM imagery of Haiti please? I know the bbc website has a before/after shot
 of Port au Prince, but I don't want to get wrangled in copywrite issues with
 them.

 thanks for your help

 joe
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Re: [Talk-us] osm sign in los angeles

2010-03-04 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 

I'm in san Diego and can take it up if it's still in LA?

On Mar 4, 2010, at 8:09, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com wrote:

I'll bet it could be re-used at the OSM booth at the Where2.0  
conference, no?


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On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 22:10, Blars Blarson openstreetmap-talk...@scd.debian.net 
 wrote:

After SCALE, I wound up with the OSM sign.  About 2 feet wide and 5
feet high when deployed, retracts into its stand.  I fixed the zipper
on its bag.  Does anyone want it for use at OSM events?

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Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] Use of OSM data by the military and/or intelligence services

2010-02-04 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
The US Military and Intelligence services are ALREADY using OSM, and
its use will continue.

What do you hope to gain by excluding them?

Jeff

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote:


 On 4 February 2010 14:49, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 AFAIK our current license offers our data for everyone who attributes
 correctly, but I'd like to raise the issue of malicious use of our
 data by governmental organisations. What do you thing about setting up
 a paragraph that prohibits the use of our data for military and
 intelligence services? Not that I'm hoping this would seriously
 prevent the use in case we have useful data to them, but still it
 would be a statement.

 I don't see why we would prevent anyone from accessing our maps. We are a
 free community; I don't see the point of limiting the use of our data. We
 can't be free selectively.
 In addition, I don't see how such a clause would actually be useful at all.
 Even if you could prove that they are using the data in opposition of the
 clause, how are you going to sue them? I think you will be given the
 national interest talk and you won't be allowed to do anything.
 Please note that it is not an endorsement for the military or the
 intelligence services.

 Emilie Laffray

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Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] Use of OSM data by the military and/or intelligence services

2010-02-04 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
No, sorry.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
 Jeffrey Johnson wrote:

 The US Military and Intelligence services are ALREADY using OSM, and
 its use will continue.



 Are there examples of this you could post?

 Dave F.


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Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data by the military and/or intelligence services

2010-02-04 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
You would be surprised. The US Military base vector data set VMAP
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_Map) is in places far better than
OSM, and in others (think Haiti) OSM is much better. That said, the
military  intelligence agencies use this in *conjunction* with other
sources of data: imagery, navteq, teleatlas etc etc.

Jeff

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
 AFAIK our current license offers our data for everyone who attributes
 correctly, but I'd like to raise the issue of malicious use of our
 data by governmental organisations. What do you thing about setting up
 a paragraph that prohibits the use of our data for military and
 intelligence services? Not that I'm hoping this would seriously
 prevent the use in case we have useful data to them, but still it
 would be a statement.

 cheers,
 Martin
 Oh my Lord, do I hope that the military services in my country are using
 data /slightly /more accurate  reliable than OSM.

 A statement of what, precisely?

 Dave F.



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Re: [OSM-talk] google outside PAP??

2010-01-23 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
Jan, We are still waiting on the new World Bank imagery which should
have very good coverage in this same range of resolution for most of
the affected areas.

Jeff

On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.net wrote:
 Hi !

 is it possible to get well images outside PAP like Google 015m ??

 can we figure on doing ? (englisch correct?)

 regards Jan :-)

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Re: [OSM-talk] Jacmel Haiti, DigitalGlobe Imagery, and Road Alignment

2010-01-20 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
All of the telascience layers are available in one WMS.

http://hypercube.telascience.org/cgi-bin/mapserv?map=/geo/haiti/mapfiles/4326.maplayers=service=WMSrequest=GetCapabilitiesversion=1.0.0;

Jeff

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
 2010/1/20 David G. Smith PE PLS dsm...@synergist-tech.com

 I noticed some apparent shifting in DigitalGlobe imagery as well last
 night
 ...

 maybe some of the helpers there could send some gpx-tracks so aligning would
 be easier and more relyable? I know that they have other stuff to do, still
 while driving in the car keeping the gps recording is not too much
 detracting. If there is noone familiar with OSM-tracks / uploading, they
 still might send them via email  and someone else could upload them? Maybe
 I'm too naive about the  situation, excuse me if so.

 cheers,
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[OSM-talk] Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Map symbols

2010-01-19 Thread Jeffrey Johnson 
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From: Talbot Brooks tbro...@deltastate.edu
Date: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:26 PM
Subject: [CrisisMappers] Map symbols
To: crisismapp...@googlegroups.com


Just a thought – as there as a zillion different map products and
services being stood up, two things would be helpful regarding
symbology:



It might be helpful if we could work towards standardizing symbols –
say around the FGDC Homeland Security Working Group map symbol set at:
http://www.fgdc.gov/HSWG/index.html
If those working on the data side through OSM were able to help align
the tags/classification of objects towards those things for which
symbology is clearly identified, that would be helpful.  Even better
would be sub-classification that matched the symbology (eg., a major
trauma center would be a level 1 hospital versus an aid station with a
doctor might be a level 4 hospital).



Regards,



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Delta State University

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