Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open Data
That’s indeed the (fun) challenge ☺ Luckily, there are already some good sources available. Two I’ve used: · for some of the municipalities, Wikipedia offers a lot of information, see e.g. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_rues_de_Schaerbeek · http://www.irismonument.be often has good info, e.g. http://www.irismonument.be/nl.Elsene.Francois_Stroobantstraat.html http://www.irismonument.be/fr.Ixelles.Rue_Francois_Stroobant.html (you can just enter the street name in their search box) Seppe Van: Jonathan Beliën [mailto:l...@jbelien.be] Verzonden: dinsdag 11 februari 2020 12:23 Aan: talk-be@openstreetmap.org Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open Data Yes, that's the big question mark for the event ! We'll hope to attract people with such knowledge and/or hope to find the information online somehow ! That's one of the reason we decided not to edit OpenStreetMap directly during the event ! Jonathan Beliën Mar 11 févr 2020, à 12:18, Jo a écrit : I think the hardest part is figuring out what the name stands for if it is a former maire of the city or commune. Especially if we only have an initial for the first name. Sometimes it is possible to find this information on the internet, often it isn't. Do we have a way to look into the city's archives? Jo On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 11:07 AM Jonathan Beliën mailto:l...@jbelien.be>> wrote: Given this workflow, I wonder whether we can drop the focus on Wikipedia (to save work/time): 1) If there is an existing Wikipedia page, it will probably already be linked to the corresponding Wikidata item. 2) If we put a Wikidata tag on a street in OSM, I personally see no reason to add a Wikipedia tag as well, as the Wikipedia page can be found through the Wikidata item (I now not all data consumers will work like that, but I feel they should be educated to do so ☺ ) Yes, I thought about adding the `wikipedia` tag if there is a Wikipedia page but no wikidata "page" but we could indeed add the `wikipedia` tag even if we have the `wikidata` tag ! I guess the link between OSM street and Wikidata item for that street will be done beforehand (automagically)? In that case, we could really focus on the people behind the street names and only fill in the name:etymology:wikidata tag in OSM and/or the ‘named after’ statement in Wikidata. Indeed, automagically but (very) carefully ! Exact process is not defined yet, I'll consult all of you to find the best way to do that properly ! Addition of the tags in OSM will be done no matter what AFTER the event but the participant will have access to that information to help them in their research of course. I suppose the participants of the workshop will also have an option to indicate 1) is this street named after a person (y/n) 2) which gender does the person have (m/f/don’t know) You suppose correctly ! We'll get all those information during the event ! But the final process will get the gender from the wikidata "page" (if there is a wikidata "page" for every person that have a street with their name). Thanks for the feedback ! Jonathan Beliën Mar 11 févr 2020, à 10:56, Santens Seppe a écrit : Hi Jonathan, Workflow sounds good! If I may, a few remarks: • Given this workflow, I wonder whether we can drop the focus on Wikipedia (to save work/time): 1) If there is an existing Wikipedia page, it will probably already be linked to the corresponding Wikidata item. 2) If we put a Wikidata tag on a street in OSM, I personally see no reason to add a Wikipedia tag as well, as the Wikipedia page can be found through the Wikidata item (I now not all data consumers will work like that, but I feel they should be educated to do so ☺ ) • I guess the link between OSM street and Wikidata item for that street will be done beforehand (automagically)? In that case, we could really focus on the people behind the street names and only fill in the name:etymology:wikidata tag in OSM and/or the ‘named after’ statement in Wikidata. • I suppose the participants of the workshop will also have an option to indicate 1) is this street named after a person (y/n) 2) which gender does the person have (m/f/don’t know) Cheers, Seppe Van: Jonathan Beliën [mailto:l...@jbelien.be<mailto:l...@jbelien.be>] Verzonden: dinsdag 11 februari 2020 10:16 Aan: talk-be@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-be@openstreetmap.org> Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open Data Hello everyone, I just find out about this discussion and realize we are currently doing the work twice ! The initial (and main) goal of the project is indeed to link streets in Brussels from OpenStreetMap with the wikidata "page" of the person present in the streetname ! BUT we got in contact with Romain (Wikimedia Belgium) and he told us that he is working on creating a wikidata
Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open Data
Yes, that's the big question mark for the event ! We'll hope to attract people with such knowledge and/or hope to find the information online somehow ! That's one of the reason we decided not to edit OpenStreetMap directly during the event ! Jonathan Beliën Mar 11 févr 2020, à 12:18, Jo a écrit : > I think the hardest part is figuring out what the name stands for if it is a > former maire of the city or commune. Especially if we only have an initial > for the first name. Sometimes it is possible to find this information on the > internet, often it isn't. > > Do we have a way to look into the city's archives? > > Jo > > > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 11:07 AM Jonathan Beliën wrote: >> __ >>> Given this workflow, I wonder whether we can drop the focus on Wikipedia >>> (to save work/time): 1) If there is an existing Wikipedia page, it will >>> probably already be linked to the corresponding Wikidata item. 2) If we put >>> a Wikidata tag on a street in OSM, I personally see no reason to add a >>> Wikipedia tag as well, as the Wikipedia page can be found through the >>> Wikidata item (I now not all data consumers will work like that, but I feel >>> they should be educated to do so J ) >> >> Yes, I thought about adding the `wikipedia` tag if there is a Wikipedia page >> but no wikidata "page" but we could indeed add the `wikipedia` tag even if >> we have the `wikidata` tag ! >> >>> I guess the link between OSM street and Wikidata item for that street will >>> be done beforehand (automagically)? In that case, we could really focus on >>> the people behind the street names and only fill in the >>> name:etymology:wikidata tag in OSM and/or the ‘named after’ statement in >>> Wikidata. >> >> Indeed, automagically but (very) carefully ! >> Exact process is not defined yet, I'll consult all of you to find the best >> way to do that properly ! >> Addition of the tags in OSM will be done no matter what AFTER the event but >> the participant will have access to that information to help them in their >> research of course. >> >>> I suppose the participants of the workshop will also have an option to >>> indicate 1) is this street named after a person (y/n) 2) which gender does >>> the person have (m/f/don’t know) >> >> You suppose correctly ! >> We'll get all those information during the event ! >> But the final process will get the gender from the wikidata "page" (if there >> is a wikidata "page" for every person that have a street with their name). >> >> Thanks for the feedback ! >> >> Jonathan Beliën >> >> >> Mar 11 févr 2020, à 10:56, Santens Seppe a écrit : >>> Hi Jonathan, >>> >>> Workflow sounds good! >>> If I may, a few remarks: >>> · Given this workflow, I wonder whether we can drop the focus on Wikipedia >>> (to save work/time): 1) If there is an existing Wikipedia page, it will >>> probably already be linked to the corresponding Wikidata item. 2) If we put >>> a Wikidata tag on a street in OSM, I personally see no reason to add a >>> Wikipedia tag as well, as the Wikipedia page can be found through the >>> Wikidata item (I now not all data consumers will work like that, but I feel >>> they should be educated to do so J ) >>> · I guess the link between OSM street and Wikidata item for that street >>> will be done beforehand (automagically)? In that case, we could really >>> focus on the people behind the street names and only fill in the >>> name:etymology:wikidata tag in OSM and/or the ‘named after’ statement in >>> Wikidata. >>> · I suppose the participants of the workshop will also have an option to >>> indicate 1) is this street named after a person (y/n) 2) which gender does >>> the person have (m/f/don’t know) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Seppe >>> >>> >>> *Van:* Jonathan Beliën [mailto:l...@jbelien.be] >>> *Verzonden:* dinsdag 11 februari 2020 10:16 >>> *Aan:* talk-be@openstreetmap.org >>> *Onderwerp:* Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open >>> Data >>> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> I just find out about this discussion and realize we are currently doing >>> the work twice ! >>> >>> The initial (and main) goal of the project is indeed to link streets in >>> Brussels from OpenStreetMap with the wikidata "page"
Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open Data
I think the hardest part is figuring out what the name stands for if it is a former maire of the city or commune. Especially if we only have an initial for the first name. Sometimes it is possible to find this information on the internet, often it isn't. Do we have a way to look into the city's archives? Jo On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 11:07 AM Jonathan Beliën wrote: > Given this workflow, I wonder whether we can drop the focus on Wikipedia > (to save work/time): 1) If there is an existing Wikipedia page, it will > probably already be linked to the corresponding Wikidata item. 2) If we put > a Wikidata tag on a street in OSM, I personally see no reason to add a > Wikipedia tag as well, as the Wikipedia page can be found through the > Wikidata item (I now not all data consumers will work like that, but I feel > they should be educated to do so J ) > > > Yes, I thought about adding the `wikipedia` tag if there is a Wikipedia > page but no wikidata "page" but we could indeed add the `wikipedia` tag > even if we have the `wikidata` tag ! > > I guess the link between OSM street and Wikidata item for that street will > be done beforehand (automagically)? In that case, we could really focus on > the people behind the street names and only fill in the > name:etymology:wikidata tag in OSM and/or the ‘named after’ statement in > Wikidata. > > > Indeed, automagically but (very) carefully ! > Exact process is not defined yet, I'll consult all of you to find the best > way to do that properly ! > Addition of the tags in OSM will be done no matter what AFTER the event > but the participant will have access to that information to help them in > their research of course. > > I suppose the participants of the workshop will also have an option to > indicate 1) is this street named after a person (y/n) 2) which gender does > the person have (m/f/don’t know) > > > You suppose correctly ! > We'll get all those information during the event ! > But the final process will get the gender from the wikidata "page" (if > there is a wikidata "page" for every person that have a street with their > name). > > Thanks for the feedback ! > > Jonathan Beliën > > > Mar 11 févr 2020, à 10:56, Santens Seppe a écrit : > > Hi Jonathan, > > > > Workflow sounds good! > > If I may, a few remarks: > > · Given this workflow, I wonder whether we can drop the focus on > Wikipedia (to save work/time): 1) If there is an existing Wikipedia page, > it will probably already be linked to the corresponding Wikidata item. 2) > If we put a Wikidata tag on a street in OSM, I personally see no reason to > add a Wikipedia tag as well, as the Wikipedia page can be found through the > Wikidata item (I now not all data consumers will work like that, but I feel > they should be educated to do so J ) > > · I guess the link between OSM street and Wikidata item for that > street will be done beforehand (automagically)? In that case, we could > really focus on the people behind the street names and only fill in the > name:etymology:wikidata tag in OSM and/or the ‘named after’ statement in > Wikidata. > > · I suppose the participants of the workshop will also have an > option to indicate 1) is this street named after a person (y/n) 2) which > gender does the person have (m/f/don’t know) > > > > Cheers, > > > > Seppe > > > > > > *Van:* Jonathan Beliën [mailto:l...@jbelien.be] > *Verzonden:* dinsdag 11 februari 2020 10:16 > *Aan:* talk-be@openstreetmap.org > *Onderwerp:* Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with > Open Data > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I just find out about this discussion and realize we are currently doing > the work twice ! > > > > The initial (and main) goal of the project is indeed to link streets in > Brussels from OpenStreetMap with the wikidata "page" of the person present > in the streetname ! > > > > BUT we got in contact with Romain (Wikimedia Belgium) and he told us that > he is working on creating a wikidata "page" for all the streets in Brussels > and that his works is almost complete ! > So we added that part in our Equal Street Names project ! > > > > For every street in Brussels, we'll add the `wikidata` tag and the > `name:etymology:wikidata` ! > > > > My workflow is the following : > >- Make the list of streets in Brussels ; >- Since almost all the streets have an `associatedStreet` relation in > Brussels, I'll start with that and add the streets missing ; > - Take the already existing `wikidata` and > `name:etymology:wikidata` tags that already exist (on b
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> Given this workflow, I wonder whether we can drop the focus on Wikipedia (to > save work/time): 1) If there is an existing Wikipedia page, it will probably > already be linked to the corresponding Wikidata item. 2) If we put a Wikidata > tag on a street in OSM, I personally see no reason to add a Wikipedia tag as > well, as the Wikipedia page can be found through the Wikidata item (I now not > all data consumers will work like that, but I feel they should be educated to > do so J ) Yes, I thought about adding the `wikipedia` tag if there is a Wikipedia page but no wikidata "page" but we could indeed add the `wikipedia` tag even if we have the `wikidata` tag ! > I guess the link between OSM street and Wikidata item for that street will be > done beforehand (automagically)? In that case, we could really focus on the > people behind the street names and only fill in the name:etymology:wikidata > tag in OSM and/or the ‘named after’ statement in Wikidata. Indeed, automagically but (very) carefully ! Exact process is not defined yet, I'll consult all of you to find the best way to do that properly ! Addition of the tags in OSM will be done no matter what AFTER the event but the participant will have access to that information to help them in their research of course. > I suppose the participants of the workshop will also have an option to > indicate 1) is this street named after a person (y/n) 2) which gender does > the person have (m/f/don’t know) You suppose correctly ! We'll get all those information during the event ! But the final process will get the gender from the wikidata "page" (if there is a wikidata "page" for every person that have a street with their name). Thanks for the feedback ! Jonathan Beliën Mar 11 févr 2020, à 10:56, Santens Seppe a écrit : > Hi Jonathan, > > Workflow sounds good! > If I may, a few remarks: > · Given this workflow, I wonder whether we can drop the focus on Wikipedia > (to save work/time): 1) If there is an existing Wikipedia page, it will > probably already be linked to the corresponding Wikidata item. 2) If we put a > Wikidata tag on a street in OSM, I personally see no reason to add a > Wikipedia tag as well, as the Wikipedia page can be found through the > Wikidata item (I now not all data consumers will work like that, but I feel > they should be educated to do so J ) > · I guess the link between OSM street and Wikidata item for that street will > be done beforehand (automagically)? In that case, we could really focus on > the people behind the street names and only fill in the > name:etymology:wikidata tag in OSM and/or the ‘named after’ statement in > Wikidata. > · I suppose the participants of the workshop will also have an option to > indicate 1) is this street named after a person (y/n) 2) which gender does > the person have (m/f/don’t know) > > Cheers, > > Seppe > > > *Van:* Jonathan Beliën [mailto:l...@jbelien.be] > *Verzonden:* dinsdag 11 februari 2020 10:16 > *Aan:* talk-be@openstreetmap.org > *Onderwerp:* Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open > Data > > Hello everyone, > > I just find out about this discussion and realize we are currently doing the > work twice ! > > The initial (and main) goal of the project is indeed to link streets in > Brussels from OpenStreetMap with the wikidata "page" of the person present in > the streetname ! > > BUT we got in contact with Romain (Wikimedia Belgium) and he told us that he > is working on creating a wikidata "page" for all the streets in Brussels and > that his works is almost complete ! > So we added that part in our Equal Street Names project ! > > For every street in Brussels, we'll add the `wikidata` tag and the > `name:etymology:wikidata` ! > > My workflow is the following : > * Make the list of streets in Brussels ; >* Since almost all the streets have an `associatedStreet` relation in > Brussels, I'll start with that and add the streets missing ; >* Take the already existing `wikidata` and `name:etymology:wikidata` tags > that already exist (on both relations and ways) ; >* Romain will provide us the `wikidata` tag for all the streets ; > * Next Monday (17/02), we (OSMBE + OKBE + WikimediaBE) organize and event to > look for all the missing wikidata/wikipedia page related to the streets in > Brussels ; >* Workload will be splitted by municipality ; >* NOTHING will be added to OSM or Wikipedia/Wikidata during the event ; > * Once we have the `wikidata` and/org `name:etymology:wikidata` tags for > each street in Brussels, we'll add those 2 tags to OSM ; >* Exact procedure is not defined yet
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Hi Jonathan, Workflow sounds good! If I may, a few remarks: · Given this workflow, I wonder whether we can drop the focus on Wikipedia (to save work/time): 1) If there is an existing Wikipedia page, it will probably already be linked to the corresponding Wikidata item. 2) If we put a Wikidata tag on a street in OSM, I personally see no reason to add a Wikipedia tag as well, as the Wikipedia page can be found through the Wikidata item (I now not all data consumers will work like that, but I feel they should be educated to do so ☺ ) · I guess the link between OSM street and Wikidata item for that street will be done beforehand (automagically)? In that case, we could really focus on the people behind the street names and only fill in the name:etymology:wikidata tag in OSM and/or the ‘named after’ statement in Wikidata. · I suppose the participants of the workshop will also have an option to indicate 1) is this street named after a person (y/n) 2) which gender does the person have (m/f/don’t know) Cheers, Seppe Van: Jonathan Beliën [mailto:l...@jbelien.be] Verzonden: dinsdag 11 februari 2020 10:16 Aan: talk-be@openstreetmap.org Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open Data Hello everyone, I just find out about this discussion and realize we are currently doing the work twice ! The initial (and main) goal of the project is indeed to link streets in Brussels from OpenStreetMap with the wikidata "page" of the person present in the streetname ! BUT we got in contact with Romain (Wikimedia Belgium) and he told us that he is working on creating a wikidata "page" for all the streets in Brussels and that his works is almost complete ! So we added that part in our Equal Street Names project ! For every street in Brussels, we'll add the `wikidata` tag and the `name:etymology:wikidata` ! My workflow is the following : * Make the list of streets in Brussels ; * Since almost all the streets have an `associatedStreet` relation in Brussels, I'll start with that and add the streets missing ; * Take the already existing `wikidata` and `name:etymology:wikidata` tags that already exist (on both relations and ways) ; * Romain will provide us the `wikidata` tag for all the streets ; * Next Monday (17/02), we (OSMBE + OKBE + WikimediaBE) organize and event to look for all the missing wikidata/wikipedia page related to the streets in Brussels ; * Workload will be splitted by municipality ; * NOTHING will be added to OSM or Wikipedia/Wikidata during the event ; * Once we have the `wikidata` and/org `name:etymology:wikidata` tags for each street in Brussels, we'll add those 2 tags to OSM ; * Exact procedure is not defined yet ; * Procedure will be documented and we'll ask feedback from the community BEFORE running it ; Everything will be documented in a GitHub repository and on OSM wiki (as soon as I have a little time) ! Long story short, any feedback is more than welcome but let's not step upon each other and try to coordinate our effort ! I've been hired by Open Knowledge Belgium to work on that project. Have a nice day ! Jonathan Beliën Mar 11 févr 2020, à 09:06, Jo a écrit : OK, in that case, we'll have to go back to the original source, Urbis if we want to add coordinates for the streets to Wikidata. I always thought that if I'm the one who adds features to OSM myself, or if I'm the one who places them at their correct spot, using aerial imagery that the data was mine and I could contribute it to Wikidata, if that pleases me. But maybe I shouldn't link back to OSM in that case in the reference url. Seppe, Joost and Jonathan's project is about linking through name:etymology:wikidata to persons, and add those persons to Wikidata if they don't exist there yet. No addition of geodata involved in that case. I know that Romaine has the wish for several years now, to add the streets of Brussels themselves to Wikidata. Cheers, Jo On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 7:56 AM Marc Gemis mailto:marc.ge...@gmail.com>> wrote: > About the geocoding. If I look at the street in my JOSM, then create a node > somewhere in the center of it and then add the coordinates of that node to > Wikidata, did I violate any rights? If it does, we could use Urbis data to > source coordinates for the whereabouts of the street. I'm not using any nodes > of the street itself. I do try to link back to openstreetmap (one of the ways > or associatedStreet relation) in the reference url field. > IMHO, that is a derivative database. You look at OSM data, apply some algorithm and create new data. AFAIK, the project that Seppe, Joost and Jonathan have will not add such data, but if you want to do it, you might contact the LWG to be sure it's OK. I doubt it is. regards m. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetm
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Hello everyone, I just find out about this discussion and realize we are currently doing the work twice ! The initial (and main) goal of the project is indeed to link streets in Brussels from OpenStreetMap with the wikidata "page" of the person present in the streetname ! BUT we got in contact with Romain (Wikimedia Belgium) and he told us that he is working on creating a wikidata "page" for all the streets in Brussels and that his works is almost complete ! So we added that part in our Equal Street Names project ! For every street in Brussels, we'll add the `wikidata` tag and the `name:etymology:wikidata` ! My workflow is the following : * Make the list of streets in Brussels ; * Since almost all the streets have an `associatedStreet` relation in Brussels, I'll start with that and add the streets missing ; * Take the already existing `wikidata` and `name:etymology:wikidata` tags that already exist (on both relations and ways) ; * Romain will provide us the `wikidata` tag for all the streets ; * Next Monday (17/02), we (OSMBE + OKBE + WikimediaBE) organize and event to look for all the missing wikidata/wikipedia page related to the streets in Brussels ; * Workload will be splitted by municipality ; * NOTHING will be added to OSM or Wikipedia/Wikidata during the event ; * Once we have the `wikidata` and/org `name:etymology:wikidata` tags for each street in Brussels, we'll add those 2 tags to OSM ; * Exact procedure is not defined yet ; * Procedure will be documented and we'll ask feedback from the community BEFORE running it ; Everything will be documented in a GitHub repository and on OSM wiki (as soon as I have a little time) ! Long story short, any feedback is more than welcome but let's not step upon each other and try to coordinate our effort ! I've been hired by Open Knowledge Belgium to work on that project. Have a nice day ! Jonathan Beliën Mar 11 févr 2020, à 09:06, Jo a écrit : > OK, in that case, we'll have to go back to the original source, Urbis if we > want to add coordinates for the streets to Wikidata. > > I always thought that if I'm the one who adds features to OSM myself, or if > I'm the one who places them at their correct spot, using aerial imagery that > the data was mine and I could contribute it to Wikidata, if that pleases me. > But maybe I shouldn't link back to OSM in that case in the reference url. > > Seppe, Joost and Jonathan's project is about linking through > name:etymology:wikidata to persons, and add those persons to Wikidata if they > don't exist there yet. No addition of geodata involved in that case. > > I know that Romaine has the wish for several years now, to add the streets of > Brussels themselves to Wikidata. > > Cheers, > > Jo > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 7:56 AM Marc Gemis wrote: >> > About the geocoding. If I look at the street in my JOSM, then create a >> > node somewhere in the center of it and then add the coordinates of that >> > node to Wikidata, did I violate any rights? If it does, we could use Urbis >> > data to source coordinates for the whereabouts of the street. I'm not >> > using any nodes of the street itself. I do try to link back to >> > openstreetmap (one of the ways or associatedStreet relation) in the >> > reference url field. >> > >> >> IMHO, that is a derivative database. You look at OSM data, apply some >> algorithm and create new data. >> AFAIK, the project that Seppe, Joost and Jonathan have will not add >> such data, but if you want to do it, you might contact the LWG to be >> sure it's OK. I doubt it is. >> >> regards >> >> m. > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
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OK, in that case, we'll have to go back to the original source, Urbis if we want to add coordinates for the streets to Wikidata. I always thought that if I'm the one who adds features to OSM myself, or if I'm the one who places them at their correct spot, using aerial imagery that the data was mine and I could contribute it to Wikidata, if that pleases me. But maybe I shouldn't link back to OSM in that case in the reference url. Seppe, Joost and Jonathan's project is about linking through name:etymology:wikidata to persons, and add those persons to Wikidata if they don't exist there yet. No addition of geodata involved in that case. I know that Romaine has the wish for several years now, to add the streets of Brussels themselves to Wikidata. Cheers, Jo On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 7:56 AM Marc Gemis wrote: > > About the geocoding. If I look at the street in my JOSM, then create a > node somewhere in the center of it and then add the coordinates of that > node to Wikidata, did I violate any rights? If it does, we could use Urbis > data to source coordinates for the whereabouts of the street. I'm not using > any nodes of the street itself. I do try to link back to openstreetmap (one > of the ways or associatedStreet relation) in the reference url field. > > > > IMHO, that is a derivative database. You look at OSM data, apply some > algorithm and create new data. > AFAIK, the project that Seppe, Joost and Jonathan have will not add > such data, but if you want to do it, you might contact the LWG to be > sure it's OK. I doubt it is. > > regards > > m. > ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
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> About the geocoding. If I look at the street in my JOSM, then create a node > somewhere in the center of it and then add the coordinates of that node to > Wikidata, did I violate any rights? If it does, we could use Urbis data to > source coordinates for the whereabouts of the street. I'm not using any nodes > of the street itself. I do try to link back to openstreetmap (one of the ways > or associatedStreet relation) in the reference url field. > IMHO, that is a derivative database. You look at OSM data, apply some algorithm and create new data. AFAIK, the project that Seppe, Joost and Jonathan have will not add such data, but if you want to do it, you might contact the LWG to be sure it's OK. I doubt it is. regards m. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open Data
Hi, I used Overpass API to generate a list of unique street names in the Brussels Region: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MsII28mSORExmGhxAFPCON4GK3Zpg-BUbvy8eauy63I/edit?usp=sharing It is easy to find streets that are not mapped entirely bilingually. I should have included the id and then created an easy way to link back to JOSM. Not sure why I didn't think of that before. I might still do it, but then using the associatedStreet relations, which most of the streets in Brussels still seem to have. (I'm glad for this, I know it's not a popular one) I think we should create wikidata items for the streets themselves as well. About the geocoding. If I look at the street in my JOSM, then create a node somewhere in the center of it and then add the coordinates of that node to Wikidata, did I violate any rights? If it does, we could use Urbis data to source coordinates for the whereabouts of the street. I'm not using any nodes of the street itself. I do try to link back to openstreetmap (one of the ways or associatedStreet relation) in the reference url field. I agree that if we were to add full polylines based on all the nodes of the street, there would be an issue, but I don't think anyone wants to do that. Jo On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 11:25 AM Marc Gemis wrote: > As I wrote on Riot, I do hope this event will not copy geocoded data > from OSM into Wikidata, I think this violates > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Geocoding_-_Guideline > Please let me know if I'm wrong. > > regards > > m. > > On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 12:08 PM Jo wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I did this for one street in Evere: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/523050554/history > > > > Took me more than half an hour for a single street (no automation). I > created a wikidata entry both for the person and for the street itself. > Things are complicated by the bilingual nature of the city and because this > street also had an old name. > > > > Is that what we will be doing? Or did I somehow misunderstand? > > > > Polyglot > > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 4:34 PM Santens Seppe > wrote: > >> > >> Hi community, > >> > >> > >> > >> Open Knowledge Belgium, OpenStreetMap Belgium and Wikimedia Belgium > want to map all the streetnames by gender in Brussels, as a first step to > change the imbalance in reality. We need your help on 17/02 to get the OSM > data linked to wikidata. > >> > >> Register here to join the mapping effort: > https://eventbrite.co.uk/e/towards-equal-street-names-with-open-data-registration-92536026747. > And let us know if you can help with the framework. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> more info: > https://be.okfn.org/2020/02/03/towards-equal-street-names-with-open-data/ > >> > >> > >> > >> Please spread the word! > >> > >> -Twitter: > https://twitter.com/OpenKnowledgeBE/status/1224291464496193538 > >> -Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/events/2852981998057886/ > >> -Eventbrite: http://equalstreetnamesbrussels.eventbrite.co.uk/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Seppe > >> > >> ___ > >> Talk-be mailing list > >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > > > ___ > > Talk-be mailing list > > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open Data
That won't be the purpose of the workshop. Main goal is to link to link streets in OSM with the person they were named after, either directly through name:etyomolgy:wikidata or indirectly via the (already existing) Wikidata item of the street and the "named after" property. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Marc Gemis [mailto:marc.ge...@gmail.com] Verzonden: woensdag 5 februari 2020 11:25 Aan: Jo Simoens; OpenStreetMap Belgium Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open Data As I wrote on Riot, I do hope this event will not copy geocoded data from OSM into Wikidata, I think this violates https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Geocoding_-_Guideline Please let me know if I'm wrong. regards m. On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 12:08 PM Jo wrote: > > Hi, > > I did this for one street in Evere: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/523050554/history > > Took me more than half an hour for a single street (no automation). I created > a wikidata entry both for the person and for the street itself. Things are > complicated by the bilingual nature of the city and because this street also > had an old name. > > Is that what we will be doing? Or did I somehow misunderstand? > > Polyglot > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 4:34 PM Santens Seppe wrote: >> >> Hi community, >> >> >> >> Open Knowledge Belgium, OpenStreetMap Belgium and Wikimedia Belgium want to >> map all the streetnames by gender in Brussels, as a first step to change the >> imbalance in reality. We need your help on 17/02 to get the OSM data linked >> to wikidata. >> >> Register here to join the mapping effort: >> https://eventbrite.co.uk/e/towards-equal-street-names-with-open-data-registration-92536026747. >> And let us know if you can help with the framework. >> >> >> >> >> >> more info: >> https://be.okfn.org/2020/02/03/towards-equal-street-names-with-open-data/ >> >> >> >> Please spread the word! >> >> -Twitter: https://twitter.com/OpenKnowledgeBE/status/1224291464496193538 >> -Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/events/2852981998057886/ >> -Eventbrite: http://equalstreetnamesbrussels.eventbrite.co.uk/ >> >> >> >> >> >> Seppe >> >> ___ >> Talk-be mailing list >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open Data
As I wrote on Riot, I do hope this event will not copy geocoded data from OSM into Wikidata, I think this violates https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Geocoding_-_Guideline Please let me know if I'm wrong. regards m. On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 12:08 PM Jo wrote: > > Hi, > > I did this for one street in Evere: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/523050554/history > > Took me more than half an hour for a single street (no automation). I created > a wikidata entry both for the person and for the street itself. Things are > complicated by the bilingual nature of the city and because this street also > had an old name. > > Is that what we will be doing? Or did I somehow misunderstand? > > Polyglot > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 4:34 PM Santens Seppe wrote: >> >> Hi community, >> >> >> >> Open Knowledge Belgium, OpenStreetMap Belgium and Wikimedia Belgium want to >> map all the streetnames by gender in Brussels, as a first step to change the >> imbalance in reality. We need your help on 17/02 to get the OSM data linked >> to wikidata. >> >> Register here to join the mapping effort: >> https://eventbrite.co.uk/e/towards-equal-street-names-with-open-data-registration-92536026747. >> And let us know if you can help with the framework. >> >> >> >> >> >> more info: >> https://be.okfn.org/2020/02/03/towards-equal-street-names-with-open-data/ >> >> >> >> Please spread the word! >> >> -Twitter: https://twitter.com/OpenKnowledgeBE/status/1224291464496193538 >> -Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/events/2852981998057886/ >> -Eventbrite: http://equalstreetnamesbrussels.eventbrite.co.uk/ >> >> >> >> >> >> Seppe >> >> ___ >> Talk-be mailing list >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open Data
if the primary goal is to render according to gender, shouldn't the workflow sort the streets according to the available information (all the "Virginia A. streets" are probably female, right?) in order to target first the streets where the gender is unknown (no first name or abbreviation to expend in osm). i find it very difficult to find the etymology of a street : it's not because there is a very well known "Jean de la Fontaine" that all the "Rue Jean de la Fontaine" talk about him. we risk adding supposed information which would destroy the interest of the tag name:etymology:wikidata when it's not necessary for gender rendering. Le 04.02.20 à 15:41, Midgard a écrit : > I'd strongly suggest including an easy default path for when people aren't > sure. > If you use a completion metric, choosing "not sure" should imo also increase > the completion > percentage, so that people are less psychologically pushed to add such data. > > Additionally, if someone chose "not sure" and a second person chooses "not > sure", I would avoid > showing it to any more people. > > Why? > > Adding name:etymology:wikidata is not that trivial. It requires some > dedication. In the examples > below, I'm afraid that people who are given just the goal of completing > gender will be inclined to > just pick one. That's harmful to the data quality. > > Some examples from my experience Wikidatafying Blankenberge: > There's just a surname: > - Mametstraat: David, Zosia, Raymond, Clara, Magda, Julien... > > or an initial letter and surname: > - J. De Meyerstraat: lots of people match that > > or the street has first and last name, but there are multiple people > called like that: > - Maurits Sabbepad: a writer, but also a theologian > > or you can't find any information: > - Frans Feverystraat: The top search results for "Frans Fevery" are > about the street. :p > You could create a Wikidata item for them, see > the last paragraph. > > I was planning to bother my municipality to make them help me > disambiguating those, based on > the records of the street name decision process. > > Some other challenges: > Different spellings (should be added to "also known as" in Wikidata when > found): > - Albert Ruzettelaan: in Wikidata as "Albéric Ruzette" > This could result in duplicate entries. > > Often you have to take into account the context: > - Albertstraat and Elisabethstraat running in parallel: Albert I and > his wife > - lots of surnames of painters in same neighbourhood > > Streets named after non-persons. If you use completion metric, how will > you deal with them? In > Blankenberge, I have been adding the thing they're named after. > - Vissersstraat: fisher > > But sometimes, it's just not clear what they're named after: > - Duindistellaan: I can't find any indication that this is a real > plant. Just a thistle > that happens to grow in the dunes? > - Colombus (not Columbus) > > If it's clear a person has no item yet, one should be created. It's nice if > some research is done: > what made them famous enough to get a street name? Sometimes you find > something, sometimes you > don't. In the latter case you can create a rather uninformative item with > just "instance of: human" > and "sex or gender". But when there's information available on the web, imo > it would be a shame not > to add it. > > Kind regards, > Midgard > > Quoting Santens Seppe (2020-02-04 12:52:57) >> True, but of course a nice thing to do. >> >> Van: Pieter Vander Vennet [mailto:pieterv...@posteo.net] >> Verzonden: dinsdag 4 februari 2020 12:23 >> Aan: winfi...@gmail.com; OpenStreetMap Belgium >> Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open Data >> >> Hey Jo, >> >> Afaik there is no need to create an wikidata for the street. >> Met vriendelijke groeten, >> Pieter Vander Vennet >> On February 4, 2020 12:06:46 PM GMT+01:00, Jo wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I did this for one street in Evere: >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/523050554/history >> >> Took me more than half an hour for a single street (no automation). I >> created a wikidata entry both for the person and for the street itself. >> Things are complicated by the bilingual nature of the city and because this >> street also had an old name. >> >> Is that what we will be doing? Or did I somehow misunderstand? &g
Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open Data
I'd strongly suggest including an easy default path for when people aren't sure. If you use a completion metric, choosing "not sure" should imo also increase the completion percentage, so that people are less psychologically pushed to add such data. Additionally, if someone chose "not sure" and a second person chooses "not sure", I would avoid showing it to any more people. Why? Adding name:etymology:wikidata is not that trivial. It requires some dedication. In the examples below, I'm afraid that people who are given just the goal of completing gender will be inclined to just pick one. That's harmful to the data quality. Some examples from my experience Wikidatafying Blankenberge: There's just a surname: - Mametstraat: David, Zosia, Raymond, Clara, Magda, Julien... or an initial letter and surname: - J. De Meyerstraat: lots of people match that or the street has first and last name, but there are multiple people called like that: - Maurits Sabbepad: a writer, but also a theologian or you can't find any information: - Frans Feverystraat: The top search results for "Frans Fevery" are about the street. :p You could create a Wikidata item for them, see the last paragraph. I was planning to bother my municipality to make them help me disambiguating those, based on the records of the street name decision process. Some other challenges: Different spellings (should be added to "also known as" in Wikidata when found): - Albert Ruzettelaan: in Wikidata as "Albéric Ruzette" This could result in duplicate entries. Often you have to take into account the context: - Albertstraat and Elisabethstraat running in parallel: Albert I and his wife - lots of surnames of painters in same neighbourhood Streets named after non-persons. If you use completion metric, how will you deal with them? In Blankenberge, I have been adding the thing they're named after. - Vissersstraat: fisher But sometimes, it's just not clear what they're named after: - Duindistellaan: I can't find any indication that this is a real plant. Just a thistle that happens to grow in the dunes? - Colombus (not Columbus) If it's clear a person has no item yet, one should be created. It's nice if some research is done: what made them famous enough to get a street name? Sometimes you find something, sometimes you don't. In the latter case you can create a rather uninformative item with just "instance of: human" and "sex or gender". But when there's information available on the web, imo it would be a shame not to add it. Kind regards, Midgard Quoting Santens Seppe (2020-02-04 12:52:57) > True, but of course a nice thing to do. > > Van: Pieter Vander Vennet [mailto:pieterv...@posteo.net] > Verzonden: dinsdag 4 februari 2020 12:23 > Aan: winfi...@gmail.com; OpenStreetMap Belgium > Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open Data > > Hey Jo, > > Afaik there is no need to create an wikidata for the street. > Met vriendelijke groeten, > Pieter Vander Vennet > On February 4, 2020 12:06:46 PM GMT+01:00, Jo wrote: > Hi, > > I did this for one street in Evere: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/523050554/history > > Took me more than half an hour for a single street (no automation). I created > a wikidata entry both for the person and for the street itself. Things are > complicated by the bilingual nature of the city and because this street also > had an old name. > > Is that what we will be doing? Or did I somehow misunderstand? > > Polyglot > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 4:34 PM Santens Seppe wrote: > Hi community, > > Open Knowledge Belgium, OpenStreetMap Belgium and Wikimedia Belgium want to > map all the streetnames by gender in Brussels, as a first step to change the > imbalance in reality. We need your help on 17/02 to get the OSM data linked > to wikidata. > Register here to join the mapping effort: > https://eventbrite.co.uk/e/towards-equal-street-names-with-open-data-registration-92536026747. > And let us know if you can help with the framework. > > > more info: > https://be.okfn.org/2020/02/03/towards-equal-street-names-with-open-data/ > > Please spread the word! > -Twitter: https://twitter.com/OpenKnowledgeBE/status/1224291464496193538 > -Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/events/2852981998057886/ > -Eventbrite: http://equalstreetnamesbrussels.eventbrite.co.uk/ > > > Seppe ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open Data
True, but of course a nice thing to do. Van: Pieter Vander Vennet [mailto:pieterv...@posteo.net] Verzonden: dinsdag 4 februari 2020 12:23 Aan: winfi...@gmail.com; OpenStreetMap Belgium Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open Data Hey Jo, Afaik there is no need to create an wikidata for the street. Met vriendelijke groeten, Pieter Vander Vennet On February 4, 2020 12:06:46 PM GMT+01:00, Jo wrote: Hi, I did this for one street in Evere: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/523050554/history Took me more than half an hour for a single street (no automation). I created a wikidata entry both for the person and for the street itself. Things are complicated by the bilingual nature of the city and because this street also had an old name. Is that what we will be doing? Or did I somehow misunderstand? Polyglot On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 4:34 PM Santens Seppe wrote: Hi community, Open Knowledge Belgium, OpenStreetMap Belgium and Wikimedia Belgium want to map all the streetnames by gender in Brussels, as a first step to change the imbalance in reality. We need your help on 17/02 to get the OSM data linked to wikidata. Register here to join the mapping effort: https://eventbrite.co.uk/e/towards-equal-street-names-with-open-data-registration-92536026747. And let us know if you can help with the framework. more info: https://be.okfn.org/2020/02/03/towards-equal-street-names-with-open-data/ Please spread the word! -Twitter: https://twitter.com/OpenKnowledgeBE/status/1224291464496193538 -Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/events/2852981998057886/ -Eventbrite: http://equalstreetnamesbrussels.eventbrite.co.uk/ Seppe ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org<mailto:Talk-be@openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open Data
Hey Jo, Afaik there is no need to create an wikidata for the street. Met vriendelijke groeten, Pieter Vander Vennet On February 4, 2020 12:06:46 PM GMT+01:00, Jo wrote: >Hi, > >I did this for one street in Evere: >https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/523050554/history > >Took me more than half an hour for a single street (no automation). I >created a wikidata entry both for the person and for the street itself. >Things are complicated by the bilingual nature of the city and because this >street also had an old name. > >Is that what we will be doing? Or did I somehow misunderstand? > >Polyglot > >On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 4:34 PM Santens Seppe >wrote: > >> Hi community, >> >> >> >> Open Knowledge Belgium, OpenStreetMap Belgium and Wikimedia Belgium want >> to map all the streetnames by gender in Brussels, as a first step to change >> the imbalance in reality. We need your help on 17/02 to get the OSM data >> linked to wikidata. >> >> Register here to join the mapping effort: >> https://eventbrite.co.uk/e/towards-equal-street-names-with-open-data-registration-92536026747. >> And let us know if you can help with the framework. >> >> >> >> >> >> more info: >> https://be.okfn.org/2020/02/03/towards-equal-street-names-with-open-data/ >> >> >> >> Please spread the word! >> >> -Twitter: https://twitter.com/OpenKnowledgeBE/status/1224291464496193538 >> -Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/events/2852981998057886/ >> -Eventbrite: http://equalstreetnamesbrussels.eventbrite.co.uk/ >> >> >> >> >> >> Seppe >> ___ >> Talk-be mailing list >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open Data
Hi, I did this for one street in Evere: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/523050554/history Took me more than half an hour for a single street (no automation). I created a wikidata entry both for the person and for the street itself. Things are complicated by the bilingual nature of the city and because this street also had an old name. Is that what we will be doing? Or did I somehow misunderstand? Polyglot On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 4:34 PM Santens Seppe wrote: > Hi community, > > > > Open Knowledge Belgium, OpenStreetMap Belgium and Wikimedia Belgium want > to map all the streetnames by gender in Brussels, as a first step to change > the imbalance in reality. We need your help on 17/02 to get the OSM data > linked to wikidata. > > Register here to join the mapping effort: > https://eventbrite.co.uk/e/towards-equal-street-names-with-open-data-registration-92536026747. > And let us know if you can help with the framework. > > > > > > more info: > https://be.okfn.org/2020/02/03/towards-equal-street-names-with-open-data/ > > > > Please spread the word! > > -Twitter: https://twitter.com/OpenKnowledgeBE/status/1224291464496193538 > -Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/events/2852981998057886/ > -Eventbrite: http://equalstreetnamesbrussels.eventbrite.co.uk/ > > > > > > Seppe > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open Data
A few years ago I created this script to interlink schools in Uganda to wikidata. No idea if it would be useful: https://github.com/PolyglotOpenstreetmap/Python-scripts-to-automate-JOSM/blob/master/UseWDTKtoCreateWDitems.py To run it in JOSM, you'd need the scripting plugin, jython.jar and the Wikidata Toolkit jar. I'm proposing to make this simpler for this year's Google Summer of Code, so all comments are welcome. Jo On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 4:34 PM Santens Seppe wrote: > Hi community, > > > > Open Knowledge Belgium, OpenStreetMap Belgium and Wikimedia Belgium want > to map all the streetnames by gender in Brussels, as a first step to change > the imbalance in reality. We need your help on 17/02 to get the OSM data > linked to wikidata. > > Register here to join the mapping effort: > https://eventbrite.co.uk/e/towards-equal-street-names-with-open-data-registration-92536026747. > And let us know if you can help with the framework. > > > > > > more info: > https://be.okfn.org/2020/02/03/towards-equal-street-names-with-open-data/ > > > > Please spread the word! > > -Twitter: https://twitter.com/OpenKnowledgeBE/status/1224291464496193538 > -Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/events/2852981998057886/ > -Eventbrite: http://equalstreetnamesbrussels.eventbrite.co.uk/ > > > > > > Seppe > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] 17/02: Towards Equal Street Names with Open Data
Hi community, Open Knowledge Belgium, OpenStreetMap Belgium and Wikimedia Belgium want to map all the streetnames by gender in Brussels, as a first step to change the imbalance in reality. We need your help on 17/02 to get the OSM data linked to wikidata. Register here to join the mapping effort: https://eventbrite.co.uk/e/towards-equal-street-names-with-open-data-registration-92536026747. And let us know if you can help with the framework. more info: https://be.okfn.org/2020/02/03/towards-equal-street-names-with-open-data/ Please spread the word! -Twitter: https://twitter.com/OpenKnowledgeBE/status/1224291464496193538 -Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/events/2852981998057886/ -Eventbrite: http://equalstreetnamesbrussels.eventbrite.co.uk/ Seppe ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
