[OSM-talk-be] Newbie : Huis vatten - adressen - UrbIS

2013-10-21 Thread Pierre Parmentier
Je reviens sur le message de Jo et sur la situation avec l'import UrbIS.

Nous avons différentes situations :

   1. contour (way) avec une adresse unique (c'est à dire un numéro) :
   l'adresse est sur le contour (way)
   2. contour (way) avec plusieurs adresses dans l'import : plusieurs nodes
   qui ont chacun une adresse qui est sur les nodes et les nodes sont à
   l'intérieur du way
   3. building à l'angle de deux rues avec dans l'import plusieurs numéros
   sur des nodes : un ou plusieurs numéro + adresse dans chaque rue ;
voir Proposed
   Features/Multiple
addresseshttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Multiple_addresses,
   avec, par exemple *addr:1*:street=Foo Street, *addr:1*:housenumber=1, *
   addr:2*:street=Bar Road, *addr:2*:housenumber=5. Les nodes sont aussi à
   l'intérieur du way.
   4. building à l'angle de deux rues avec lors de l'import un seul numéro
   sur le contour mais sur le terrain (in situ) on observe des adresses dans
   les deux rues : le schéma ci-dessus reste applicable (numéro et adresse sur
   le way).

Pierre P.
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Newbie : Huis vatten - adressen - UrbIS

2013-10-21 Thread Marc Gemis
2013/10/21 Pierre Parmentier pierrecparment...@gmail.com

 Proposed Features/Multiple 
 addresseshttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Multiple_addresses



I don't like this proposal too much. This is a relation in disguise. So why
not use a real relation instead ? A building relation (which already
exists) with multiple address node members.  -- I know it's not your
proposal, so I won't shoot the messenger :-)
This is a mess to maintain if you have to manually make sure that all
numbers behind a addr: are there. I would vote against it.

m.
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Newbie : Huis vatten - adressen - UrbIS

2013-10-21 Thread Marc Gemis
And I'm not the only one: see
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_Features/Multiple_addresses
none of the comments was in favor of this proposal.


On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote:


 2013/10/21 Pierre Parmentier pierrecparment...@gmail.com

 Proposed Features/Multiple 
 addresseshttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Multiple_addresses



 I don't like this proposal too much. This is a relation in disguise. So
 why not use a real relation instead ? A building relation (which already
 exists) with multiple address node members.  -- I know it's not your
 proposal, so I won't shoot the messenger :-)
 This is a mess to maintain if you have to manually make sure that all
 numbers behind a addr: are there. I would vote against it.

 m.

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Newbie : Huis vatten - adressen - UrbIS

2013-10-21 Thread Glenn Plas
We should stick to the current well known scheme, thinking about this 
renderer issue... it makes no sense to manoevre around a faulty 
renderer, being it nominatim or a tileserver.  If a search for a street 
+ housenumber,  city returns nothing, but a search for that same street, 
city without the number does return fine, who's fault is that?  Search 
engines are suppose to be 'best effort' .  The correct behavior should 
be to drop the housenumber from the search parameters (no exact match is 
found), and then lower the resolution of the result set to encompass the 
street (visually).  In nominatim that would translate to bunch of hits  
when searching for an address, when reverse searching for a coordinate 
that would just return : streetname , postalcode, city, country  no 
housenumber.


That proposal ,I mentioned that in a earlier comment already,  (to be 
aware of it's existance) but it's flawed as you noticed.  Also, there 
are 203 occurences in the whole database like this:


http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/addr%3A1%3Ahousenumber

Safe to say, it would be a lost effort following this scheme.  But also, 
we would be the only ones using it imho   We should just keep 
tagging the karlsruhe way.


Glenn

On 2013-10-21 14:40, Marc Gemis wrote:
And I'm not the only one: see 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_Features/Multiple_addresses 
 none of the comments was in favor of this proposal.



On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com 
mailto:marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote:



2013/10/21 Pierre Parmentier pierrecparment...@gmail.com
mailto:pierrecparment...@gmail.com

  # Proposed Features/Multiple addresses

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Multiple_addresses



I don't like this proposal too much. This is a relation in
disguise. So why not use a real relation instead ? A building
relation (which already exists) with multiple address node
members.  -- I know it's not your proposal, so I won't shoot the
messenger :-)
This is a mess to maintain if you have to manually make sure that
all numbers behind a addr: are there. I would vote against it.

m.




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