Re: [OSM-talk-be] Talk-be Digest, Vol 86, Issue 4

2015-02-02 Thread hvdb
In my town , it is mostly the 'INFO Office' (=Tourisme Office) , which
makes/distributes/publishes flyers/maps with info about traffic/tourism and
so on, ... so, is it possible to make those people 'enthousiastic' for OSM,
by a 'simple method' ? -> i mean here by ; people are not going to read all
those 'rules' about copyright and so on ... much to 'complex', and
sometimes/mostly not in Flemish ... i mean here ; a simple website to
publish such maps/info, so that it satifies all rules of OSM , and
preferable in Flemish to read ?

2015-02-01 20:21 GMT+01:00 :

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> Hi,
>
> Sorry that you got dragged into this discussion but it pops up sometimes...
>
> In short: When you are not sure don't use the map as a source. When you
> have permission from the author just put that permission up on the
> OSM-wiki.
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> More information is here:
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> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/GettingPermission
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> Happy Mapping,
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> Ben
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> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 7:40 PM, hvdb  wrote:
>
> > my my ... what a 'discussion' over such a 'simple asking'  ;P
> > so ... if i could get a map or some info, what should one do then, so
> that
> > it is ' legal' ... get a 'stamp' on such a map/papers , or something
> else ?
> > Also ... how should one post/map such map/info on OSM, to proof that it
> is
> > 'OK' for the people of the city hall ?
> >
> > 2015-02-01 16:26 GMT+01:00 :
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> >>1. Re: How to map streets with limited parking time?
> >>   (Sander Deryckere)
> >>2. Re: How to map streets with limited parking time? (Andre Engels)
> >>3. Re: How to map streets with limited parking time? (Andre Engels)
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> >> Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 13:18:59 +0100
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> >> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-be] How to map streets with limited parking
> >> time?
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> >> I have a feeling I'm repeating myself. We're NOT talking about
> copyright.
> >> There's no copyright involved in this case. Copyright doesn't matter
> here.
> >> Copyright isn't the reason why OSM exists.
> >>
> >> We're talking about Sui Generis database rights (
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_Directive).
> >>
> >> The problem with database rights is that there are only very few trials
> >> that used it. So there are not many examples on what a "substantial
> part"
> >> or even "a database" is.
> >>
> >> However, when interpreting the texts, you see that a database is
> >>
> >>
> >>- A collection of different records: there are different streets with
> >>data
> >>- Possible to see one record at a time: seeing the parking time of a
> >>single street makes sense when you're looking for a parking place
> >> (which is
> >>the intended purpose of this map)
> >>
> >> The Sui Generis right protects
> >>
> >>- qualitative or quantitative data: it's both here. The amount of
> >>streets is complete, and the information about those streets is
> >> complete
> >>- substantial investment of time in either the obtaining,
> verification
> >>or presentation of the contents: Here it's about presentation. The
> >>information can simply be obtained by reading the decisions from the
> >>municipal council. However, present

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Talk-be Digest, Vol 86, Issue 4

2015-02-02 Thread Marc Gemis
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:30 PM, hvdb  wrote:

> In my town , it is mostly the 'INFO Office' (=Tourisme Office) , which
> makes/distributes/publishes flyers/maps with info about traffic/tourism and
> so on, ... so, is it possible to make those people 'enthousiastic' for OSM,
> by a 'simple method' ? -> i mean here by ; people are not going to read all
> those 'rules' about copyright and so on ... much to 'complex', and
> sometimes/mostly not in Flemish ... i mean here ; a simple website to
> publish such maps/info, so that it satifies all rules of OSM , and
> preferable in Flemish to read ?
>


I am not sure what you want. Sometime to create printed maps ? or on-line
maps ?
Tilemile (or it's successor) can do all of this, but there is no Dutch
version. This is commercial software.
For on-line, non-commercial sites, you could use umap. Also no Dutch UI,
but I assume you could help the umap team by translating the UI.
QGIS is free and can also create printed and static maps combining a number
of sources. Don't know whether the UI is available in Dutch.

regards

m
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