Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bing Updated

[Gerard Vanderveken]

As the aerial image is also composed out of 256x256 tiles, it is 
possible that the higher zoom levels are not yet generated from the new 
materials.

Wait, hope and see!

Gerard

Ben Laenen wrote:


On Wednesday 21 September 2011 21:08:12 Renaud MICHEL wrote:
 


On mercredi 21 septembre 2011 at 11:18, Gerard Vanderveken wrote :
   


Bing updated the background imagery for JOSM and Potlatch to spring 2011.
I've also the impression the resolution is now on par with bing.com/maps.
Now you can map also very recent buildings and other objects.
 


I hope they don't stop here, as it seems a work in progress.
Looking over Liège at a place I know changed recently, hospital "le valdor"
(see http://osm.org/go/0Eqqh5ZcK-) up to zoom 17 I now get images from
10/10/2010, but at zoom 18 and over it is still images from 10/6/2007 when
the hospital was in re-construction.
This is not a JOSM problem, as you can see on bing site
http://be.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=50.63429469934849~5.589405251254638&lvl=17&;
dir=0&sty=h&form=LMLTCC

We'll see in the coming days.
   



As you maybe can see, the new imagery is less detailed then what they had 
before in some locations, so they chose the (IMO) sensible option to show 
older images when you're zoomed in. Sure, it can look weird, but it's either 
this, or blocky images at zoom 18.


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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bing Updated

[Ben Laenen]

On Wednesday 21 September 2011 21:08:12 Renaud MICHEL wrote:
> On mercredi 21 septembre 2011 at 11:18, Gerard Vanderveken wrote :
> > Bing updated the background imagery for JOSM and Potlatch to spring 2011.
> > I've also the impression the resolution is now on par with bing.com/maps.
> > Now you can map also very recent buildings and other objects.
> 
> I hope they don't stop here, as it seems a work in progress.
> Looking over Liège at a place I know changed recently, hospital "le valdor"
> (see http://osm.org/go/0Eqqh5ZcK-) up to zoom 17 I now get images from
> 10/10/2010, but at zoom 18 and over it is still images from 10/6/2007 when
> the hospital was in re-construction.
> This is not a JOSM problem, as you can see on bing site
> http://be.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=50.63429469934849~5.589405251254638&lvl=17&;
> dir=0&sty=h&form=LMLTCC
> 
> We'll see in the coming days.

As you maybe can see, the new imagery is less detailed then what they had 
before in some locations, so they chose the (IMO) sensible option to show 
older images when you're zoomed in. Sure, it can look weird, but it's either 
this, or blocky images at zoom 18.

Ben

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bing Updated

[Renaud MICHEL]

On mercredi 21 septembre 2011 at 11:18, Gerard Vanderveken wrote :
> Bing updated the background imagery for JOSM and Potlatch to spring 2011.
> I've also the impression the resolution is now on par with bing.com/maps.
> Now you can map also very recent buildings and other objects.

I hope they don't stop here, as it seems a work in progress.
Looking over Liège at a place I know changed recently, hospital "le valdor" 
(see http://osm.org/go/0Eqqh5ZcK-) up to zoom 17 I now get images from 
10/10/2010, but at zoom 18 and over it is still images from 10/6/2007 when 
the hospital was in re-construction.
This is not a JOSM problem, as you can see on bing site
http://be.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=50.63429469934849~5.589405251254638&lvl=17&dir=0&sty=h&form=LMLTCC

We'll see in the coming days.

-- 
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bing Updated

[Sander Deryckere]

I saw it last evening. But I noticed that buildings were shifted a bit a few
days ago.

Really good images now. I can even draw the new "rusthuis" that still has to
be build, but of which you can see the contours.

2011/9/21 Ben Abelshausen 

> Looks very good! I already added some missing buildings not visible in the
> old images! :-)
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Gerard Vanderveken  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Bing updated the background imagery for JOSM and Potlatch to spring 2011.
>> I've also the impression the resolution is now on par with bing.com/maps.
>> Now you can map also very recent buildings and other objects.
>>
>> Happy mapping,
>> Gerard.
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bing Updated

[Jo]

Dat is geweldig nieuws. Ik heb meteen van de gelegenheid gebruik gemaakt om
de Leuvense stationsomgeving nog wat beter in kaart te brengen.

Groeten,

Jo

2011/9/21 Gerard Vanderveken 

> Hi,
>
> Bing updated the background imagery for JOSM and Potlatch to spring 2011.
> I've also the impression the resolution is now on par with bing.com/maps.
> Now you can map also very recent buildings and other objects.
>
> Happy mapping,
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bing Updated

[Ben Abelshausen]

Looks very good! I already added some missing buildings not visible in the
old images! :-)

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Gerard Vanderveken  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Bing updated the background imagery for JOSM and Potlatch to spring 2011.
> I've also the impression the resolution is now on par with bing.com/maps.
> Now you can map also very recent buildings and other objects.
>
> Happy mapping,
> Gerard.
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[OSM-talk-be] Bing Updated

[Gerard Vanderveken]

Hi,

Bing updated the background imagery for JOSM and Potlatch to spring 2011.
I've also the impression the resolution is now on par with bing.com/maps.
Now you can map also very recent buildings and other objects.

Happy mapping,
Gerard.


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Re: [OSM-talk-be] bing!

[Gerard Vanderveken]

I have used it also with JOSM and it works great.
Much more detail then with Yahoo.
Also more recent images.
Don't know the date but seems 3 - 4 years ago.
Alignment seems very good  at Huldenberg Vlaams-Brabant (saw some 
complaints for the alignment at high zooms).


Anyway, a great improvement!

Regards,
Gerard.

Peter Leemans wrote:



For the people prefering josm (like me).

You can already us a snapshot version:

http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/josm-dev/2010-December/005062.html 



Workes fine for me.

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] bing!

[Maarten Deen]

Peter Leemans wrote:

For the people prefering josm (like me).

You can already us a snapshot version:

http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/josm-dev/2010-December/005062.html


Just added some streets in Hannut. Mapping is open again ;)

Maarten



On 01-12-10 13:20, Denis Jacquerye wrote:

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Ben Abelshausen
  wrote:
   

I'm having the same issues with Potlach2.

Usually I use merkaartor but the bing maps plugin is not yet active.


On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:42 AM, wannes  wrote:
 

Other roads seemd correct, so I re-alligned a few things.

Now Potlach2 question: How do I add a node to a way? How do I merge 2
nodes? (don't find i t in the help)
   

Adding a node to a way is document in
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potlatch2/Primer
"To add a point to an existing way, select the way and shift+click at
the desired location."

To merge, I would delete (click Delete button or press Backspace) one
node and connect with the other if necessary.

Cheers,
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] bing!

[Peter Leemans]

For the people prefering josm (like me).

You can already us a snapshot version:

http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/josm-dev/2010-December/005062.html

Workes fine for me.

Regards,
Peter Leemans

On 01-12-10 13:20, Denis Jacquerye wrote:

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Ben Abelshausen
  wrote:
   

I'm having the same issues with Potlach2.

Usually I use merkaartor but the bing maps plugin is not yet active.


On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:42 AM, wannes  wrote:
 

Other roads seemd correct, so I re-alligned a few things.

Now Potlach2 question: How do I add a node to a way? How do I merge 2
nodes? (don't find i t in the help)
   

Adding a node to a way is document in
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potlatch2/Primer
"To add a point to an existing way, select the way and shift+click at
the desired location."

To merge, I would delete (click Delete button or press Backspace) one
node and connect with the other if necessary.

Cheers,
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] bing!

[Denis Jacquerye]

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Ben Abelshausen
 wrote:
> I'm having the same issues with Potlach2.
>
> Usually I use merkaartor but the bing maps plugin is not yet active.
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:42 AM, wannes  wrote:
>>
>> Other roads seemd correct, so I re-alligned a few things.
>>
>> Now Potlach2 question: How do I add a node to a way? How do I merge 2
>> nodes? (don't find i t in the help)

Adding a node to a way is document in
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potlatch2/Primer
"To add a point to an existing way, select the way and shift+click at
the desired location."

To merge, I would delete (click Delete button or press Backspace) one
node and connect with the other if necessary.

Cheers,
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] bing!

[Ben Abelshausen]

I'm having the same issues with Potlach2.

Usually I use merkaartor but the bing maps plugin is not yet active.


On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:42 AM, wannes  wrote:

> Other roads seemd correct, so I re-alligned a few things.
>
> Now Potlach2 question: How do I add a node to a way? How do I merge 2
> nodes? (don't find i t in the help)
>
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Luc Van den Troost 
> wrote:
> > There are reports of the images being misalligned...
> >
> > http://blog.samat.org/p/Bing-Imagery-Misaligned-at-Lower-Zooms
> >
> > Generally the error will be less than the GPS-error i guess. So for
> > 'generall mapping' it would not pose a problem. It might once one goes in
> > very close detail. Moreover it might be hard to tell who is wrong... is
> it
> > your gps, is it yahoo, or is it bing...
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:10 AM, wannes  wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Luc Van den Troost  >
> >> wrote:
> >> > Good news, especially for areas like the Kempen, east of Ranst, and
> >> > between
> >> > Ninove and Geraardsbergen. Both less covered areas in OSM and Yahoo.
> >>
> >> Any idea about the "geocorrectness" of the Bing images? Some roads
> >> seem a few meters off.
> >> Do I correct them using the Bing images? Or leave them, because Bing
> >> images might be wrong?
> >>
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] bing!

[wannes]

Other roads seemd correct, so I re-alligned a few things.

Now Potlach2 question: How do I add a node to a way? How do I merge 2
nodes? (don't find i t in the help)

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Luc Van den Troost  wrote:
> There are reports of the images being misalligned...
>
> http://blog.samat.org/p/Bing-Imagery-Misaligned-at-Lower-Zooms
>
> Generally the error will be less than the GPS-error i guess. So for
> 'generall mapping' it would not pose a problem. It might once one goes in
> very close detail. Moreover it might be hard to tell who is wrong... is it
> your gps, is it yahoo, or is it bing...
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:10 AM, wannes  wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Luc Van den Troost 
>> wrote:
>> > Good news, especially for areas like the Kempen, east of Ranst, and
>> > between
>> > Ninove and Geraardsbergen. Both less covered areas in OSM and Yahoo.
>>
>> Any idea about the "geocorrectness" of the Bing images? Some roads
>> seem a few meters off.
>> Do I correct them using the Bing images? Or leave them, because Bing
>> images might be wrong?
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] bing!

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There are reports of the images being misalligned...

http://blog.samat.org/p/Bing-Imagery-Misaligned-at-Lower-Zooms

Generally the error will be less than the GPS-error i guess. So for
'generall mapping' it would not pose a problem. It might once one goes in
very close detail. Moreover it might be hard to tell who is wrong... is it
your gps, is it yahoo, or is it bing...



On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:10 AM, wannes  wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Luc Van den Troost 
> wrote:
> > Good news, especially for areas like the Kempen, east of Ranst, and
> between
> > Ninove and Geraardsbergen. Both less covered areas in OSM and Yahoo.
>
> Any idea about the "geocorrectness" of the Bing images? Some roads
> seem a few meters off.
> Do I correct them using the Bing images? Or leave them, because Bing
> images might be wrong?
>
> --
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] bing!

[wannes]

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Luc Van den Troost  wrote:
> Good news, especially for areas like the Kempen, east of Ranst, and between
> Ninove and Geraardsbergen. Both less covered areas in OSM and Yahoo.

Any idea about the "geocorrectness" of the Bing images? Some roads
seem a few meters off.
Do I correct them using the Bing images? Or leave them, because Bing
images might be wrong?

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] bing!

[Luc Van den Troost]

Good news, especially for areas like the Kempen, east of Ranst, and between
Ninove and Geraardsbergen. Both less covered areas in OSM and Yahoo.

I noticed however that in the 'default' Potlatch, the Bing-images are not
(yet) available.
For those that use the online-editor (I guess most) you can use the
Potlatch2 editor, and the bing background, if you do not click the 'Edit'
button right away but stay on it for some time. Then you can choose
Potlatch2 and have the bing images.

Some info about the use of the new areal images are on
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bing

Luc / Speedy

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> Hi All,
>
> The Licence has been approved by Microsoft and we can now officially use
> Bing Maps Imagery.
> More info on: http://opengeodata.org/microsoft-imagery-details
>
> This imagery is already available in the popular editors (checked potlach2,
> I assume it is also available in Potlach1 and Josm).
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> Greetings,
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[OSM-talk-be] bing!

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Hi All,

The Licence has been approved by Microsoft and we can now officially use 
Bing Maps Imagery.

More info on: http://opengeodata.org/microsoft-imagery-details

This imagery is already available in the popular editors (checked 
potlach2, I assume it is also available in Potlach1 and Josm).


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