[Talk-ca] Fwd: Accidental deletions in Victoria
(Why the hell do I always miss the big shiny Reply All button?) On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:38 AM, Victor Bielawski bielaws...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:37 AM, Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote: think there is some helpful revert feature in Potlatch To undelete a way, press u, wait 5–10 seconds for the deleted ways to load, select the way to undelete, and press k. To revert a way to an earlier version, select the feature, press k, choose the version, and click Revert. From the Potlatch documentation: * undelete will always use the most recent version of each constituent node (even if it's moved) * revert will use the historic version of each constituent node, but if that node is still visible and has moved somewhere else, it will generate a new node ID -- Victor Bielawski ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] HackFest - Victoria or Sidney?
Hi, I'm Itching to get a HackFest / Mapping parting going some time real soon. There is TONNES of stuff going on lots of new mappers around. (I just checked the 'mappers around me' and see a whole bunch). ie. .. CVRD data is being loaded in, the Provincial Parks/national parks are loaded in. Alot of stuff is being traced from Toporama geobase NHN is available as WMS. .. and there is a few other WMS layers data from GeoBase (aboriginal lands boundaries) that need to be looked at. So i was hoping to get a HackFest going so we can plow through some of this stuff show people what all is available :-) ... and and share cool new apps that others might not know about. So i want to send out a message to everyone, (all Local area mappers) with a set date/time.others who can help explain stuff to the newer mappers who show up. Is it easier to host it on IRC #osm-ca? Or Skype? Day time or evening? Thanks, Sam P.S. Ya... unfortunately, im not the best one for setting these up. .. as this is yet another attempt :) ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Accidental deletions in Victoria
I can revert it if the data hasn't been changed and you didn't do other edits in the same changeset. check the changeset and if you think it should be reverted as a whole let me know. If you prefer to revert just some portion it's best to use Potlatch and with key 'U' you will see all deleted data in red. after clicking the unlock button the way is back and can be edited as usual. On 8 Apr 2010, at 7:58 , Peter Freeman wrote: I was the person that deleted Dallas Road. I would like to know how it happened, however I am thinking that it might have been caused by Validator when I used the Automatic Fix of nodes without ways. I can repair it as I have a number of GPS traces of the road from various bike training rides over the last year, however, I would like to know how to revert the changeset. In future, I will keep an eye on what Valiadator does. Does anyone have any experience with Validator issues? Thanks, Peter On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 17:37 -0700, Gregory wrote: Ah, I was editing around the area (LivingWithDragons) and saw all the nodes with no ways, I thought my computer was just having trouble loading them (I'm not very familiar with Potlatch). As a note, there are a couple of areas inside the park that are ponds traced from Yahoo but not yet tagged, I was planning to deal with them when I add some footpaths using JOSM. I made a day trip to Victoria on Saturday. Does anyone on the talk-ca list know how to deal with reverting data? I think there is some helpful revert feature in Potlatch, but I don't know how to use it. On 6 April 2010 17:16, Corey Burger corey.bur...@gmail.com wrote: I have noticed three accidental deletions in the Victoria area recently: Ring Road entrance, Thompson Rd in Oak Bay and most recently, Dallas Road. I have sent a message to the user but somebody needs to get in and revert the change. You can see the damage here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/4676365/history Corey ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] On renderers
Hi All, I need to give a presentation on OSM a couple of months down the road. One of the key aspects in my talk will revolve on the idea that OSM provides people with data they can operate on instead of just having access to pre-rendered images. On the OSM rendering page, there is a mention of the 2 core OSM renderers : osmarender and Mapnik. There is also a mention of a slew of renderers from other sources. What I'd like to know is what organizations that serve OSM data use mainly. From what I can read, osmarender is a lighter piece of software that organizations can use to generate maps with their own styles using a relatively simple XSLT pipeline. There is also the option of using e.g. CloudMade's styleId url parmeter against their renderer which can be an easier way to style maps for organizations (but they depend on a remote renderer). What I'd like to know in fact is how organizations that wish to control how OSM data is rendered have for options. And examples if possible. Any pointers appreciated. Yves ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] On renderers
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Yves Moisan yves.moi...@boreal-is.com wrote: What I'd like to know in fact is how organizations that wish to control how OSM data is rendered have for options. And examples if possible. Any pointers appreciated. Dear Yves, There are a bunch of OSM datasets presented on other sites, here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM_based_Services ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] On renderers
My personal favourite example that I tell people is http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HaptoRender where OSM data is used to print a haptic map for blind users. I think it demonstrates very well the difference between access to final rendered images vs. access to the raw data. Adam On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Yves Moisan yves.moi...@boreal-is.com wrote: What I'd like to know in fact is how organizations that wish to control how OSM data is rendered have for options. And examples if possible. Any pointers appreciated. Dear Yves, There are a bunch of OSM datasets presented on other sites, here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM_based_Services ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] On renderers
Thanx Adam and Richard, I guess some implementation details are given at the page you mention Richard. I feel there are folks in the audience that will ask me how did they do that we want to do it too! and I'll be dumbfounded ;-). If anyone has pointers to nitty-gritty implementation details, I'm all ears. Cheers, Yves ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] URISA BC Seminar on Open Data--Vancouver May 20th
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Richard, (cc: et all) [snip] Hi Sam, I wonder if you could divide your messages a little bit. This one seems to have a couple of different things going on at once, and a wider than necessary distribution list. What I see in your message are: - announcement of an Open Data conference in Vancouver. - continuation of a conversation I had with you on #osm re Vancouver license. - presumption that I speak for anybody else. - presumption that I have foreclosed Sam from a conversation with Jonathan. So for the talk-ca list, the relevant portion of Sam's email seems to be this: There is an OpenData event in Vancouver! It was announced on the OpenData Vancouver mailing list. More details at the links below. As to the rest. I'll follow-up off list. Best regards, Richard [Quoted from Vancouver Open Data mailing list] General information is available at http://urisabc.org/gis_opendata_event.html; that is also where the speaker roster will be when finalized. The call for presentations is available at http://urisabc.org/assets/events/2010/Open_Data/Presentations/URISABC_Call4Presentations_052010.pdf ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Mapping intersections properly - the impact on routing and illegal routing maneuvres
I did look at turn restrictions. But would the Garmin auto-routing algorithms even consider those restrictions? Not without pain to implement either. The editors would need to make this a one or two click solution. Not complaining, just thinking aloud. Marc. On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Marc Provencher m...@marcprovencher.com wrote: I recently posted with an open question asking how others map junction nodes at complex intersections. Today I was trying to reproduce certain routing errors which I observed while driving, and was able to cause Mapsource to route me through an illegal U-turn, because of a misplaced junction node where there shouldn't be one. This picture shows the U-turn: http://provencher.smugmug.com/Other/Misc/IllegalUturn/831296827_sYc5e-X3.jpg The problem lies with the access ramp,which has a junction node on both ways of the divided residential road. And for some reason the routing algorithm doesn' t consider this a U-turn, even thought the avoid U-turns setting is enabled. Actually, the real problem is that the routing algorithm is using these connecting ways between the two sides of a divided road, to make a U-turn. I'm not sure if this problem can be resolved easily. In my attached picture, removing the junction node which I thought was the problem simply moved the problem to another intersection. I see this fault from navigation systems too. I'm not sure that the commercial vendors worry about this error. Their systems seem to suggest those illegal turns often enough. We can do better, and eliminate these routing errors with turn restriction relations. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Turn_restrictions See what you think. -- Marc Provencher m...@marcprovencher.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Accidental deletions in Victoria
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Corey Burger corey.bur...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried to get this way via Potlatch and it doesn't work. This is going to need to be done on the server. I really wish the web had a revert edit button on it. I see that the way you linked to had one node left in it, which excluded it from the undelete feature. However, the way could be reverted using the history feature. The way can be selected by selecting its node and then pressing / until the desired way id shows up in the panel. -- Victor Bielawski ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
