[Talk-ca] Some french translation advice

2012-01-11 Thread Tyler Gunn
I'm working on a JOSM plugin to help rename/reclassify provincial
roads and provincial trunk highways in Manitoba in the Canvec data.
The goal is to enforce a common naming for PRs and PTHs in MB.

Generally, highways with ref=0-99 are considered Provincial Trunk
Highways, and as such I've got the following names:
EN: Provincial Trunk Highway XY
FR: route provinciale à grande circulation XY

Generally, highways with ref99 are considered Provincial Roads, as
as such I've got the following names:
EN = Provincial Road XYX
FR = route provinciale secondaire XYZ

These are the french translations I could come up with, given my very
limited understanding of the French language.

Could someone proof these for me and let me know if I'm completely off base?

Thanks,
Tyler

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Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging Rail POIs - Help please

2012-01-11 Thread Sam Dyck
Canvec has the same problem, stations that had service many years ago
are still tagged as stations, even if they been replaced by new
stations.

Smith Falls, Ontario has three stations shown, one is the current VIA
Rail station, one is a former station and the third is not even on a
track.

Sam Dyck

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Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging Rail POIs - Help please

2012-01-11 Thread Bégin , Daniel
Bonjour Sam,

You're right! As we don't have the resources to update the entire map content, 
we might have to rely on you folks and use your work to update NRCan maps.

Daniel



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Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging Rail POIs - Help please

Canvec has the same problem, stations that had service many years ago are still 
tagged as stations, even if they been replaced by new stations.

Smith Falls, Ontario has three stations shown, one is the current VIA Rail 
station, one is a former station and the third is not even on a track.

Sam Dyck

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[Talk-ca] Tagging Rail POIs - Help please

2012-01-11 Thread Andrew Allison
Hello:

I'm scratching my head as to an appropriate tag? Seems odd that there
isn't a reference to something like man_made:sign_post railway:marker
railway:location railway:signal etc.


Punt the ball to the tagging list?

tagg...@openstreetmap.org

Andrew


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Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging Rail POIs - Help please

2012-01-11 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Andrew Allison
andrew.alli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello:

        I'm scratching my head as to an appropriate tag? Seems odd that there
 isn't a reference to something like man_made:sign_post railway:marker
 railway:location railway:signal etc.


        Punt the ball to the tagging list?

 tagg...@openstreetmap.org

Yes please.  Or, at least to talk@.  This is not a unique Canadian
tagging issue.  We'd like to be in-line with the consensus.

Also, taginfo.openstreetmap.org might be helpful, though I usually
find that most-helpful if I already know which tag i should use.
That's not the case here.  :-)

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[Talk-ca] OSM meetings in other towns

2012-01-11 Thread Richard Weait
Dear All,

I keep talking about the fun we have at OSM events, and I wonder how
to help others start similar events in their towns?

The conferences are super.  If you can go, you should go.  No
question.  SotM 2012 will be in Tokyo Japan this year and I'm very
excited about that.

Smaller events like our monthly Mappy Hours in Toronto are great fun
too.  I encourage you to start one in your town.  You don't have to
live in a big city.  We've had successful OSM events in Cambridge
(100k) and Waterloo (100k) and a new one is planned for this month in
Guelph (88k).

These events can be successful with as few as two mappers.  Once you
have a track record of events, you'll discover that you have
'regulars' and new friends.  Until you get to that point, you'll be
able to help newcomers learn to use the OSM editors and improve the
map in their neighbourhood.

So how can I help you start your new local group?

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[Talk-ca] Mapping statistics and fun

2012-01-11 Thread Richard Weait
Dear All,

If you have been contributing to OpenStreetMap for a while, you might
not have a clear memory of everything that you have done.  There are
some really interesting tools to show the work of individual OSM
accounts.  I really like the heat maps[1] and summaries [2] and there
are a bunch of other tools as well.

I've always loved baseball statistics and wondered what mappers would
look like with baseball statistics.  So here they are.

http://rweait.dev.openstreetmap.org/daily/rw_career.html

This shows my two main OSM accounts, how often I map, and a few other
things.  This isn't a web service yet, but I'll be happy to build your
stats for you if you are curious.  Just send me the uid of the account
you want me to do the stats for.  Any suggestions for other stats?

Best regards,
Richard

[1] http://wdye.osm-tools.org/ and http://yosmhm.neis-one.org/
[2] http://hdyc.neis-one.org/

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[Talk-ca] License upgrade readiness - contact and remapping

2012-01-11 Thread Richard Weait
Dear Canadian OpenStreetMap contributors,

The upcoming move to the Open Database License means that a small
number of users have chosen for their contributions not to continue
within OSM. Since we want OSM to remain the best map in the world, we
can remap the affected areas now, so that little difference is
noticeable on changeover day. The License Working Group would now like
to formally urge Canadian mappers to look at your local mapping areas,
contact anyone who still might agree and then remap. This is a pilot
project to engage global mappers on a country-by-country basis.

Critical mass for the change-over has certainly been achieved.  On a
global basis, over 96.8% of nodes and 96.3% of highways [1]  are by
folks who have accepted the new terms. However, we still have globally
36 million nodes that may not survive the license change and 4.2
million problematic ways where some or all value will be lost [2].
This is still a large number, particularly if they are in your local
mapping area, and we would like to reduce it.

In Canada, the situation is slightly better than the global average,
with 98.3% of nodes and 96.7% of highways coming from folks who have
accepted the new terms.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Remapping is a specific up-to-date
resource on remapping and
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Help_preparing_for_the_license_change
give broader background information.

Frederik Ramm's excellent License Change View on OSM Inspector [4]
helps pin point problematic areas and users who have not yet agreed to
the license upgrade and new contributor terms.  There are
license-status tools for both JOSM and Potlatch2, to aid you in
mapping.

I have found the following approach helpful in cleaning Cambridge and
starting to clean Toronto.  Contact mappers with problematic edits in
my area and ask them to consider agreeing to CT/ODbL.  Remap the
objects effected by accounts that do not then agree.  I'm not
contacting every mapper with problematic edits.  A very small number
of OSM accounts have already declined CT/ODbL for their own reasons.
Many more contributors have not replied either because they have lost
interest or contact with the OSM community.  Of those, I've found that
many have responded positively by agreeing with CT/ODbL. Some have
even started mapping again after a long hiatus.

I see no pattern in who agrees; some are accounts with only a few
edits and others with many edits over months or years.

I've also been remapping objects effected by declined or
non-responsive accounts.  Often, this remapping can be done to high
quality from a combination of aerial imagery and canvec data.  I've
gone out to resurvey some areas as well.

I've been able to clean Cambridge of non-compatible edits in the
course of just a few editing sessions with only small changes in my
mapping techniques.
1) I look at the license status of the area in the course of my normal
mapping. While mapping, I make sure to clean problematic objects
rather than just editing them. Every mapper should be aware of the
license status of objects while mapping.  If you ignore this, you
might be making improvements that will be discarded in the license
change.
2) By contacting a few non-responsive mappers, many objects have
cleaned themselves when those mappers agree. This is a really good
thing, especially when they become active mappers again!
3) Sometimes, I take a few extra minutes to clean some other
surrounding objects.
4) Sometimes, I plan and resurvey an area to clean it.

Please join me and many of the other mappers who are taking an
interest in making the license upgrade as smooth as possible.  As with
any mapping, looking at the map from a new perspective is interesting
and fun.  And every improvement that we make now, before the cutover
date will be made with the care and attention that local mappers bring
to every edit.

Below, I have included links to several Canadian cities in OSMI.
Sorry that the links are so long.  :-)

Best regards.
Richard

[1] http://odbl.poole.ch/
[2] Nodes Created http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/munin.html
[3] http://odbl.poole.ch/canada-20111208-20120111-poly.html
[4] 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Remapping/License_Change_View_on_OSM_Inspector

Toronto
http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=wtfelon=-79.36390lat=43.74990zoom=10overlays=overview,wtfe_point_clean,wtfe_line_clean,wtfe_point_harmless,wtfe_line_harmless,wtfe_point_modified,wtfe_line_modified_cp,wtfe_line_modified,wtfe_point_created,wtfe_line_created_cp,wtfe_line_created

Montreal
http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=wtfelon=-73.64826lat=45.63385zoom=10overlays=overview,wtfe_point_clean,wtfe_line_clean,wtfe_point_harmless,wtfe_line_harmless,wtfe_point_modified,wtfe_line_modified_cp,wtfe_line_modified,wtfe_point_created,wtfe_line_created_cp,wtfe_line_created

Ottawa
http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=wtfelon=-75.78236lat=45.40967zoom=10overlays=overview,wtfe_point_clean,wtfe_line_clean,wtfe_point_harmless

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging Rail POIs - Help please

2012-01-11 Thread Sam Dyck
In regards to Andrew and Richard's comments, I find place:locality to
be suitable for this situation. I have used it for places like
Diamond, Manitoba. It has also been used to mark highway junctions
with names (such as Confusion Corner in Winnipeg).

Sam

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[Talk-ca] Guelph, Ontario OSM Mappy Hour

2012-01-11 Thread John Kerr
Hello Everyone

A new OSM group will meet on Tuesday January 31 , 7:00 PM at Coco Latte in
the old Quebec Street Mall.

For more information http://www.meetup.com/Waterloo-OSM/events/47592742/

Cheers

John Kerr
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