[Talk-ca] canvec import in ontario

2012-07-29 Thread Jesse Davis
Hello,

I'd like to import some canvec data for the area just north of Plevna,
Ontario, Canada (NTS 031F02), which has not been imported and for the
most part is completely blank. I have downloaded the most recent canvec
10 data and it looks like the import is easy enough to do using the 
provided osm files and the josm editor (I've done many edits in the past 
with josm). 

I imported a tile (NTS 031F02.0.0.0) before realizing that there were
import guidelines, and I shouldn't just go ahead without first
consulting the community. So, I'd just like to make sure it's ok to
proceed.

I will use a separate account for the imports as per the guideline.

Is there anything else I should know or do before proceeding?

Thanks,
Jesse Davis







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Re: [Talk-ca] Fixme Files

2012-07-29 Thread Pierre Béland
Oups, you are right Richard. 


I should have revised my notes. highway=turning_circle, was used in OSM to tag 
a dead-end node on a way.
 Pierre 


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 De : Richard Weait rich...@weait.com
 À : Bruno Remy bremy.qc...@gmail.com
 Cc : talk-ca@openstreetmap.org talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
 Envoyé le : Samedi 28 juillet 2012 23h02
 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Fixme Files
 
 On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Bruno Remy bremy.qc...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
  By the way is there a best-practice for roundabout? Circle ways? Or a 
 single
  runabout node ? I always have been confused with those items...
 
 Roundabout a circular way, tagged as junction=roundabout (+
 highway=$classification), is a circular way, which joins multiple
 linear ways.  A roundabout has a central reservation unsuitable for
 driving.
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:junction%3Droundabout
 
 mini-roundabout a  node tagged as highway=mini_roundabout joins
 multiple linear ways but is smaller and has no central reservation.
 the mini-roundabout is often a painted circle in an intersection.
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dmini_roundabout
 
 Turning circle. A node tagged, highway=turning_circle, is a wide area
 in a dead-end road to allow a vehicle to turn around to the direction
 they came from.
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Turning_circle
 
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[Talk-ca] Disgardable NHN and NRN tags

2012-07-29 Thread Paul Norman
This is based on
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2012-July/008830.html, a
recent talk-us@ discussion about TIGER tags. Parts of this message are a
copy/paste from there.

Some people may not even be aware of this but JOSM silently discards the
created_by tag if it exists on any object you change and upload to the API.
This tag was deemed unnecessary and counterproductive a long time ago and
this is just a way of cleaning it out of the database as people edit. Not
sure if Potlatch does anything like this.

I think some of the tags from the GeoBase NHN and NRN imports can be
silently dropped too.

I think the following can be safely dropped:

geobase:datasetName
geobase:uuid
accuracy:meters
waterway:type
sub_sea:type

Any thoughts?


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Re: [Talk-ca] Disgardable NHN and NRN tags

2012-07-29 Thread Adam Dunn
I'd keep the accuracy:meters around. I've used that for other things
(mainly denoting how accurate my gps is in obtaining geodetic survey
markers, or what the accuracy is based on number of sample points
being averaged). Wouldn't want JOSM to be wiping those out.

I think the ways tagged with sub_sea would need to be deleted, not
just the tag itself. These tend to be hydrological topology connectors
under lakes that show how rivers are connected. The entire way
should be deleted to bring it in line with the rest of OSM.

Not too sure about the waterway:type tag. Might be used in other
places for other things?

Can't think of anything stopping us from getting rid of geobase:*
tags. Canvec imports don't have this, so it's inconsistent across the
country, and it's probably not used anywhere else.

Adam

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Steve Singer st...@ssinger.info wrote:
 On Sun, 29 Jul 2012, Paul Norman wrote:

 This is based on
 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2012-July/008830.html, a
 recent talk-us@ discussion about TIGER tags. Parts of this message are a
 copy/paste from there.


 I think the following can be safely dropped:

 geobase:datasetName
 geobase:uuid


 I agree.  When I started the geobase road imports it predated the ability to
 add changeset tags or comments.  A lot of my reasoning for having those tags
 was to be able to traceback objects to their original Geobase objects so we
 could come up with a way of updating OSM with future versions of the Geobase
 data.  These tags have never (to my knowledge) been used for this and I
 doubt they would be very useful for this purpose if anyone tried to do so.



 accuracy:meters
 waterway:type
 sub_sea:type

 Any thoughts?


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Re: [Talk-ca] Disgardable NHN and NRN tags

2012-07-29 Thread Paul Norman
 From: Adam Dunn [mailto:dunna...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 5:57 PM
 To: Steve Singer
 Cc: Paul Norman; Toby Murray; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Disgardable NHN and NRN tags
 
 I'd keep the accuracy:meters around. I've used that for other things
 (mainly denoting how accurate my gps is in obtaining geodetic survey
 markers, or what the accuracy is based on number of sample points being
 averaged). Wouldn't want JOSM to be wiping those out.

Why not accuracy instead? But ya, if you're using it then it'll need to be
kept.

 I think the ways tagged with sub_sea would need to be deleted, not just
 the tag itself. These tend to be hydrological topology connectors
 under lakes that show how rivers are connected. The entire way should
 be deleted to bring it in line with the rest of OSM.

Most of them need converting to waterway=stream (or other tags as
appropriate) and sub_sea deleting. A lot of them are small ponds or streams
where there would normally be a way.

 Not too sure about the waterway:type tag. Might be used in other places
 for other things?

Taginfo shows only the imported values - I doubt anyone is using this.

 Can't think of anything stopping us from getting rid of geobase:* tags.
 Canvec imports don't have this, so it's inconsistent across the country,
 and it's probably not used anywhere else.

The ones I listed were from BC - are there others elsewhere that also need
removing?


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