Re: [Talk-ca] USGS Orthos in Canada

2012-08-09 Thread Richard Weait
We should be asking about this on talk-us.  cc'd there.

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Stewart C. Russell  wrote:
> While editing near Leamington ON in Potlatch, I clicked by accident on
> the Background -> "OSM US USGS Large Scale Aerial Imagery". It came up
> with really sharp and recent orthoimagery. It's of similar quality to
> the SWOOP images I buy at $50/km^2 for work, and covers some areas that
> Bing doesn't. Images look to be from 2010 or so, guessing from the
> visible wind power projects in SW Ontario.
>
> Trying out several areas near the US border I found:
> * that coverage is seemingly random; some isolated areas have it,
> contiguous areas near the border might not
> * it's coming from a very slow server which only works if you're zoomed
> in very close
> * it's not seemingly available from a public WMS, as any of the USGS
> servers I tried blank at the Canadian border.
>
> Surprisingly, it seems that not all USGS imagery is public domain
> (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/USGS_High_Resolution_Orthoimagery#Data_License).
> So, can we use it?
>
> cheers,
>  Stewart
>
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Re: [Talk-ca] USGS Orthos in Canada

2012-08-09 Thread Stewart Russell
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Harald Kliems  wrote:
> That's indeed some nice imagery. In the area I looked at, the QC/NY
> border south of Montreal, it doesn't extend all that far into Canada
> but it's nice nonetheless.

It looks like some of the stuff in Canada is Public Domain:
http://cumulus.cr.usgs.gov/dispatches/PRODUCT_Orthos.html#Canada
- but it doesn't tell you the boundaries.

It's newer than the Bing imagery where I live; looks like late summer
2009 or summer 2010, by the fresh(ish) paint on my deck. You can even
make out someone in my back garden; might even be me ...

>  If you look at the list linked from the
> wiki page ( http://cumulus.cr.usgs.gov/dispatches/PRODUCT_Orthos.html
> ) there don't seem to be any non-PD regions -- so I guess we can use
> it?

But that list is not exhaustive; not every US county is on it.
F'rinstance, in Missouri, Andrew, Buchanan, Bates, Benton, Pettis &
Cooper counties aren't listed - so that could mean that any imagery
there is not Public Domain.

cheers,
 Stewart

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Re: [Talk-ca] USGS Orthos in Canada

2012-08-09 Thread Harald Kliems
That's indeed some nice imagery. In the area I looked at, the QC/NY
border south of Montreal, it doesn't extend all that far into Canada
but it's nice nonetheless. If you look at the list linked from the
wiki page ( http://cumulus.cr.usgs.gov/dispatches/PRODUCT_Orthos.html
) there don't seem to be any non-PD regions -- so I guess we can use
it?

Does anybody know how to load this data in JOSM? The URLs/instructions
provided in the wiki article didn't work for me.

Cheers,
 Harald.

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Stewart C. Russell  wrote:
> While editing near Leamington ON in Potlatch, I clicked by accident on
> the Background -> "OSM US USGS Large Scale Aerial Imagery". It came up
> with really sharp and recent orthoimagery. It's of similar quality to
> the SWOOP images I buy at $50/km^2 for work, and covers some areas that
> Bing doesn't. Images look to be from 2010 or so, guessing from the
> visible wind power projects in SW Ontario.
>
> Trying out several areas near the US border I found:
> * that coverage is seemingly random; some isolated areas have it,
> contiguous areas near the border might not
> * it's coming from a very slow server which only works if you're zoomed
> in very close
> * it's not seemingly available from a public WMS, as any of the USGS
> servers I tried blank at the Canadian border.
>
> Surprisingly, it seems that not all USGS imagery is public domain
> (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/USGS_High_Resolution_Orthoimagery#Data_License).
> So, can we use it?
>
> cheers,
>  Stewart
>
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[Talk-ca] USGS Orthos in Canada

2012-08-09 Thread Stewart C. Russell
While editing near Leamington ON in Potlatch, I clicked by accident on
the Background -> "OSM US USGS Large Scale Aerial Imagery". It came up
with really sharp and recent orthoimagery. It's of similar quality to
the SWOOP images I buy at $50/km^2 for work, and covers some areas that
Bing doesn't. Images look to be from 2010 or so, guessing from the
visible wind power projects in SW Ontario.

Trying out several areas near the US border I found:
* that coverage is seemingly random; some isolated areas have it,
contiguous areas near the border might not
* it's coming from a very slow server which only works if you're zoomed
in very close
* it's not seemingly available from a public WMS, as any of the USGS
servers I tried blank at the Canadian border.

Surprisingly, it seems that not all USGS imagery is public domain
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/USGS_High_Resolution_Orthoimagery#Data_License).
So, can we use it?

cheers,
 Stewart

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