[Talk-ca] Seasonal ferry routes
Hello, The ferry route from Deer Island, NB to Campobello Island, NB is seasonal but it is not properly tagged as seasonal: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/117143395 I have a friend who was routing a car trip to Campobello Island and the route included the above ferry link which is currently out of service. Does anybody have any good examples of seasonal ferry routes that are properly tagged to show out of service dates? Will routing software respect conditional restrictions on ferry routes? I was looking at the conditional restrictions in the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Conditional_restrictions I would like to use the following tags: route=ferry route:conditional=no @ (Oct-May) name= Deer Island-Campobello Island Ferry operator=East Coast Ferries Ltd url=http://www.eastcoastferriesltd.com/Fares-Schedule.html duration=00:15 foot=yes motorcar=yes motor_vehicle=yes bicycle=yes fee=yes Any comments or suggestions? Thanks, Bernie. -- Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB bernie.conn...@unb.ca___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Seasonal ferry routes
Hi Bernie, I believe I looked into this a while ago and came to the conclusion that no routing engine currently supports conditional access. It's possible that this has changed in the meantime. But as there is an approved proposal you should go ahead and add the proper tags, maybe in addition to a short human readable note=only runs June to September. I'd say that if you're in Eastern Canada and your route includes a ferry you should be prudent enough to check for yourself if it's running all-year. Harald. On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 1:18 PM, berniejconnors berniejconn...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, The ferry route from Deer Island, NB to Campobello Island, NB is seasonal but it is not properly tagged as seasonal: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/117143395 I have a friend who was routing a car trip to Campobello Island and the route included the above ferry link which is currently out of service. Does anybody have any good examples of seasonal ferry routes that are properly tagged to show out of service dates? Will routing software respect conditional restrictions on ferry routes? I was looking at the conditional restrictions in the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Conditional_http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Conditional_restrictions restrictions I would like to use the following tags: route=ferry route:conditional=no @ (Oct-May) name= Deer Island-Campobello Island Ferry operator=East Coast Ferries Ltd url=http://www.eastcoastferriesltd.com/Fares-Schedule.html duration=00:15 foot=yes motorcar=yes motor_vehicle=yes bicycle=yes fee=yes Any comments or suggestions? Thanks, Bernie. -- Bernie Connors New Maryland, NB bernie.connors@unb. bernie.conn...@unb.caca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Please use encrypted communication whenever possible! Key-ID: 0x34cb93972f186565 ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Telecommunications Buildings
On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Adam Martin s.adam.mar...@gmail.comwrote: Hey all, Quick question regarding tagging buildings. I've come across several that are owned and maintained by a local telecom company. These are buildings, usually located in residential areas, look somewhat like houses, but are there to provide switching and distribution of communications equipment (telephone, Internet, etc). What should these be tagged as? My assumption would be building = yes and a Works = tag. Thoughts? Adam Excellent question that I would love an answer for. In similar fashion our local electric power company (Toronto Hydro) has put up a number of houses (and other buildings), basically fake building shells to hide electrical transformers (with signs on/beside the door noting the building ownership and warning of possible electrocution to trespassers (in other words the buildings and their role is not super secret, but also not announced loudly). How should these building shells be tagged? Colin. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Telecommunications Buildings
On Mon, 2014-03-10 at 13:35 -0400, Colin McGregor wrote: On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Adam Martin s.adam.mar...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Quick question regarding tagging buildings. I've come across several that are owned and maintained by a local telecom company. These are buildings, usually located in residential areas, look somewhat like houses, but are there to provide switching and distribution of communications equipment (telephone, Internet, etc). What should these be tagged as? My assumption would be building = yes and a Works = tag. Thoughts? Adam Excellent question that I would love an answer for. In similar fashion our local electric power company (Toronto Hydro) has put up a number of houses (and other buildings), basically fake building shells to hide electrical transformers (with signs on/beside the door noting the building ownership and warning of possible electrocution to trespassers (in other words the buildings and their role is not super secret, but also not announced loudly). How should these building shells be tagged? There are fake buildings used to avoid gaps in terraces on the London Underground. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1210778/Dont-believe-eyes--Pizza-delivery-men-tricked-pranksters-ordering-food-fake-houses.html Useful to know if you don't like your local pizza delivery company. Phil (trigpoint) ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Telecommunications Buildings
On Mon, 2014-03-10 at 13:48 -0400, Harald Kliems wrote: Since this phenomenon is not specific to Canada (see for example http://www.messynessychic.com/2013/01/29/the-fake-townhouses-hiding-mystery-underground-portals/ ) it might be a good idea to ask on the general tagging list. I quickly looked up the examples mentioned in the article and didn't see any specific tagging in OSM. Harald. 23 and 24 Leinster Gardens are tagged as building=facade. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/95307263 Phil (trigpoint) On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Colin McGregor colin.mc...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Adam Martin s.adam.mar...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Quick question regarding tagging buildings. I've come across several that are owned and maintained by a local telecom company. These are buildings, usually located in residential areas, look somewhat like houses, but are there to provide switching and distribution of communications equipment (telephone, Internet, etc). What should these be tagged as? My assumption would be building = yes and a Works = tag. Thoughts? Adam Excellent question that I would love an answer for. In similar fashion our local electric power company (Toronto Hydro) has put up a number of houses (and other buildings), basically fake building shells to hide electrical transformers (with signs on/beside the door noting the building ownership and warning of possible electrocution to trespassers (in other words the buildings and their role is not super secret, but also not announced loudly). How should these building shells be tagged? Colin. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Please use encrypted communication whenever possible! Key-ID: 0x34cb93972f186565 ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Telecommunications Buildings
Since this phenomenon is not specific to Canada (see for example http://www.messynessychic.com/2013/01/29/the-fake-townhouses-hiding-mystery-underground-portals/) it might be a good idea to ask on the general tagging list. I quickly looked up the examples mentioned in the article and didn't see any specific tagging in OSM. Harald. On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Colin McGregor colin.mc...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Adam Martin s.adam.mar...@gmail.comwrote: Hey all, Quick question regarding tagging buildings. I've come across several that are owned and maintained by a local telecom company. These are buildings, usually located in residential areas, look somewhat like houses, but are there to provide switching and distribution of communications equipment (telephone, Internet, etc). What should these be tagged as? My assumption would be building = yes and a Works = tag. Thoughts? Adam Excellent question that I would love an answer for. In similar fashion our local electric power company (Toronto Hydro) has put up a number of houses (and other buildings), basically fake building shells to hide electrical transformers (with signs on/beside the door noting the building ownership and warning of possible electrocution to trespassers (in other words the buildings and their role is not super secret, but also not announced loudly). How should these building shells be tagged? Colin. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Please use encrypted communication whenever possible! Key-ID: 0x34cb93972f186565 ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
