Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020i OSM Distributed Model and Education

2018-02-06 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
Please see https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Key:level

SteveA

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Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020i OSM Distributed Model and Education

2018-02-06 Thread john whelan
Ground floor is one storey, etc.  I think its the same in the UK for OSM
its the number of storeys not the name.

In the UK a two storey house has a ground floor and a first floor.  In
Canada its normally counted ground is the first floor and the storey above
is the second.  I have seen office blocks with Ground, First, second etc as
well as Ground 2nd, 3rd etc.

What beats me is a split level.  Is it one, two or 1.5?

Cheerio John

On 6 February 2018 at 13:01, Stewart C. Russell  wrote:

> On 2018-02-02 06:06 PM, john whelan wrote:
> >
> > It would be useful if someone could produce a sample in R that takes a
> > .osm file and counts the buildings.
>
> R might be rather overkill:
>
> grep "k='building'" file.osm | wc -l
>
> One might have to do some clever trickery around buildings that are
> relations (those with courtyards), though.
>
> > A task from that would be to extend
> > it to count the number of two storey (story) buildings.
>
> I wonder if OSM uses the UK concept of storey, where a two storey
> building has three levels (ground floor, first floor, second floor)? Was
> a huge confusion for me when I first moved to Canada: first floor means
> one level up.
>
>  Stewart
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Re: [Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

2018-02-06 Thread Matthew Darwin

Hi Stewart,

Thanks for your comment. I'm relatively new to OSM, so I don't have 
all the history, so I appreciate you and others jumping in.


I saw the discussion page when I started working on this.  However, it 
is from 2012, so I'm not clear if this represents current state or 
not. People are still clearly adding contact:phone etc tags


I can see contact:twitter/facebook/etc is way more popular than 
twitter/facebook alone.   So if we use the non contact:* type, then 
these don't align with the majority. Or would you suggest 
phone/fax/website don't use contact: where as twitter/facebook do use 
that prefix?


I personally don't have a strong opinion on which way to go, other 
than try to be consistent.


I tried the iD editor... and it seems to have support for contact:*, 
but use "phone/fax/email/website" in the quick pick list.



On 2018-02-06 01:10 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote:

On 2018-02-05 04:44 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote:

I don't know why people use phone=* vs contact:phone=*

Because it's the default in most editors, and it's shorter. I'd prefer
it over contact:phone, because that's a needless namespace. Also, this:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:contact#Deprecate_this_tag_family

  Stewart

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Re: [Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

2018-02-06 Thread Stewart C. Russell
On 2018-02-05 05:17 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote:
> 
> use the letters instead of numbers "+1-555-GOT-BEER"

I'd suggest mapping these to the numbers BUT international phone pads
have a superset of what we use here (7 has Q and 9 has Z) and older
phones may not be consistent with what we assume now. In the UK, ABC
used to be on 2.

cheers,
 Stewart

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Re: [Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

2018-02-06 Thread Stewart C. Russell
On 2018-02-05 04:44 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote:
> I don't know why people use phone=* vs contact:phone=*

Because it's the default in most editors, and it's shorter. I'd prefer
it over contact:phone, because that's a needless namespace. Also, this:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:contact#Deprecate_this_tag_family

 Stewart

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Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020i OSM Distributed Model and Education

2018-02-06 Thread Stewart C. Russell
On 2018-02-02 06:06 PM, john whelan wrote:
> 
> It would be useful if someone could produce a sample in R that takes a
> .osm file and counts the buildings. 

R might be rather overkill:

grep "k='building'" file.osm | wc -l

One might have to do some clever trickery around buildings that are
relations (those with courtyards), though.

> A task from that would be to extend
> it to count the number of two storey (story) buildings.

I wonder if OSM uses the UK concept of storey, where a two storey
building has three levels (ground floor, first floor, second floor)? Was
a huge confusion for me when I first moved to Canada: first floor means
one level up.

 Stewart

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Re: [Talk-ca] using image recognition to create building foot prints.

2018-02-06 Thread Stewart C. Russell
On 2018-02-02 11:01 AM, Gravel, Pierre (NRCan/RNCan) wrote:
> 
> I take the opportunity to ask you if you accept to give us a feedback on
> these footprints before the official launch.
> 
> If yes, It will be my pleasure to provide a pre-production data for
> those who want to check them.
> 
> It sounds good ?

It sounds amazing, thanks. I'd be very happy to take a look at a sample
from Toronto if one's available. I'd like to see how it compares with
the not-yet-usable-in-OSM Toronto building data.

cheers,
 Stewart

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Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020i OSM Distributed Model and Education

2018-02-06 Thread Stewart C. Russell
On 2018-01-30 10:49 AM, Jonathan Brown wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know of OSM expertise that we could tap into for a mapathon
> event in the Durham Region? Thanks.

Well, us Toronto mappers aren't *that* far away. Let us know dates and
scope.

 Stewart

(was travelling, hence late reply)

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