Re: [Talk-ca] not a mapping party but...
Le mardi 16 septembre 2008 à 21:37 -0600, Jason Reid a écrit : > Pierre-Luc Beaudoin wrote: > > Le mardi 16 septembre 2008 à 14:34 -0600, Jason Reid a écrit : > >> I will be there. And fingers crossed the openstreetmap.ca site will have > >> the Canadianized mapnik layer running on it by then so we can show it > >> off. > > Can we have more information on that? :) > > > > Thanks, > > > > Pierre-Luc > I've been working on a rule set for mapnik to give the Canadian map more > canadian flavour. So incorporating the real highway shields for most > provinces, plus a few color tweaks to start with and a few other shops > and amenities also get icons now. The shields are the time consuming > part, as I've had to generate the svg for each number for each province > (though its a bit more scripted now then it was to start, after > realizing exactly how many hundred numbered highways there are in just > Alberta). Once its up then I'll be open to other suggestions (or > patches) to change other things on the map. Nice, I've drawn the Québec's ones in the past (back when I wanted Google Maps to actually use them). I now realised they are low quality but I could spend sometime improving them if you like. I also have the seal for every numbered roads (1xx to 3xx) that are not motorways. For the colours, I'd say go for a nuanced palette... the current colours are too saturated... when you put a marker on it, it doesn't comes out. I am looking forward to see your work! > > -Jason Reid ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Talk-ca Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1
On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 21:55 -0500, Richard Degelder wrote: > > > > > Hey kid, want a WMS server? GeoBase has aerial imagery for us. In > some > > places it is higher resolution than current YWMS. If only we had a > WMS > > server to use it in our editors. > > > > What will it take to create a WMS server? Why not put those images on OpenAerialMap? -- Pierre-Luc Beaudoin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Changing admin level (provinces) to render like US states
On Sat, 2009-03-28 at 04:42 -0700, Sam Vekemans wrote: > > It still looks like the provincial borders should be changed so that > its visable from a few more zoom levels. > > Can someone explain why its not done yet? Perhaps im missing > something? None of the US state border is visible either. International borders starterd rather recently to show on the map. It looks like modification in Mapnik's configuration. May be worth to ask on a more general list? Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Province / State borders
2009/3/30 Richard Weait : > It does point out a potential shortcoming in the boundary data though. > Borders for Vermont and New York appear "bolder" than for Minnesota and > Illinois. Have they been tagged differently, or duplicated? Most likely. Same applies for country borders between Canada and US, or many countries in Europe. If you zoom in very deep, you'll see that some of these doubled borders are more detailed. Pierre-Luc ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Data polution
Hi, I just saw that the tiles are being rerendered with a red line (probably a long long building) going from Wien (Austria) to somewhere North West of Trois-Rivières. http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=46.63&lon=-70.15&zoom=7&layers=B000FTF I tried downloading both the start and end points in JOSM but I cannot see anything wrong. Any body else want to give it a look? (may be it already has been deleted, and the tiles just need to be rendered again). Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] How to tag Bixi stations?
Hi, As Bixi [1] is gaining on popularity, I think we should add them to the map! But how do you tag such a thing? I wonder what Velib used in Paris... I am open to suggestions! I commented on a Facebook post of Bixi to suggest them to do that, I wonder if they'll do it. Pierre-Luc [1] www.bixi.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] SOTM 09 -Amsterdam
On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 18:06 -0700, Sam Vekemans wrote: > Hi all, > is anyone in Canada planning on attending? > Unfortunatly i cant this year :( > if anyone is going and wants to give a Canada update, id like to chat > with u, as i can provide a write up. I will be attending the 3 days, cutting on the other conference I will be attending before (Gran Canaria Desktop Summit). It will be my first time at STOM so I don't know exactly how things happen there. I'll be giving a talk at GCDS about the location aware free desktop (using geoclue and libchamplain, the latter using OSM as data source). I see that Richard Weait seems to have things under control for your presentation problem! Who else will I be meeting? :) Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] How to tag carriage porch or "porte co chère"
Hi, While mapping my area I come across a lot of carriage porches [1], which allow cars or pedestrian to access the inner court or a service alley (ruelle). How do you suggest we map these? A tunnelled footway or way would somewhat makes sens. If the entrance is blocked by a gate it should be marked too. What do you think? Pierre-Luc [1] http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porte_coch%C3%A8re signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] [OSM-talk-fr] Fwd: How to tag car riage porch or "porte cochère"
On Tue, 2009-08-11 at 17:25 +0100, Emilie Laffray wrote: > Dans le cas exprimé par Pierre-Luc, on aurait un barrier = gate à > l'extrémité fermée par une porte, donnant surement dans une rue. Les "gates" sont souvent que de simples porte de fer forgé. Il existe aussi un cas où cette porte cochère est le seul moyen d'accéder au stationnement intérieur d'un édifice ou d'accéder à la ruelle entre les cours des bâtiments (qui est de toute évidence un lieu publique puisqu'on y retrouve de la signalisation municipale. Je peux y aller avec highway = pedestrian + tunnel = yes + layer = -1. Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Côte-de-Beaupré area imported from G eobase
Hi, Just to inform the list that I finished importing the file Yan Morin prepared for me covering the Côte-de-Beaupré region, just East of Québec City. The NTS Tile (AFAIK) is 021M2. I'll go over the missing names in my next trips visiting my parents. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=47.072&lon=-70.837&zoom=11&layers=B000FTF (current tiles still containt errors I already fixes ;-) Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Geobase related fixes needed in Mapnik and Maplint
Hi, I remember reading here about fixing Mapnik so that it doesn't think that ways with a different geobase:uuid are different (therefore repeating road number signs and such). Did anyone act on it? :) Also, looking at the Maplint overlay for imported areas and every Geobase ways are highlighted in Yellow for having tags no in MapFeatures. Did anyone think about patching maplint's rules to ignore Geobase tags? :) Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Geobase related fixes needed in Mapnik and Maplint
On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 14:18 +0200, Lennard wrote: > Mapnik doesn't even _get_ to see the geobase:* tags, and even if it > had access to them, wouldn't do anything with those. It only repeats > the labels and signs because these *are* actually separate ways, both > in the OSM database, as in the PostGIS database that mapnik queries. Oh! Thanks for the enlightenment. Can't we improve it then to not render repeated signs for prettier map output? See the 360 on this map http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=47.1061&lon=-70.8097&zoom=12&layers=B000FTF Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] address:block
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 01:23 -0400, Richard Weait wrote: > From GeoBase, some provinces / territories provide "block face > addressing" and tell us what street addresses are on a particular > section of road. Does that include Québec? If so, I'll stop manual tagging of addresses, it is time consuming! :) As for addr:block, how is it different from putting an addr:housenumber node on the corner of the street and using an addr:interpolation line in between? (similar to this: http://osm.org/go/cIrN_LB8s-- the renderer somehow do now show all the numbers). It looks to me as a duplicate way of tagging things. My 2 ¢. Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Local Chapters Working Group Update
On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 09:37 -0700, Sam Vekemans wrote: > I'm planning on making my schedule work to try to phone in, and make > my self more involved. I'm watching what Australia is doing, as they > want to be a Chapter (im pretty sure of that). Btw, I attended the Local Chapters meeting at SOTM 2009 where representatives from many countries were. The discussion mainly over what is a local chapter, why should you form one and what are the obligations you have toward the OSM Foundation. To me, the whole thing just seemed way too big for what we need. After all, OSMappers in Canada are not meeting on a regular base, do not need a structured decision process, do not own servers or operate services (not even a wiki) nor receive donations. A local chapter seemed to make sens in Germany where companies were giving away servers and ressources and needed a national receiving entity for taxes and legal reasons. I didn't follow up on the subject after this meeting. Pierre-Luc Beaudoin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] address:block - brain storming
On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 10:58 -0700, Sam Vekemans wrote: > Talk-ca list, is it the same in your town? Yes Google has this "block" address on the map for Montréal too, but as you can see here: http://www.openstreetmap.cl/comparacion/index.html?mt0=googlemap&mt1=mapnik&lon=-73.56978&lat=45.5129596&z=18 their data is shit compared to what I found on site (and entered in OpenStreetMap). We should only enter actual data in OpenStreetMap. It should be the render's job to make it pretty (by printing such nice numbers, rounded or not). Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] address:block - brain storming
On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 11:46 -0700, Sam Vekemans wrote: > > This address 'block' information can be found on Street signs. So it > IS actual map data... I see your point now... but I think it is more of a styling issue than about how the data is in OSM. The actual door numbers should be entered and then the renderer does the job. Sure you have the info on the street name panels, but it happens to be "duplicated" data derived from the door numbers :) > .. so why not? ... or is it that the community just 'doesn't like it' > and an unspoken 'hush falls over the croud when those forbidden > words are spoken'? just as someone saying "Why cant i trace > Google Maps?',, and the veins pop out... lol :) (FYI i'm joking, > Richard)... :-) I don't like it, but that doesn't stop it here. I am not the community, we are. :) Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Tutorial on how to contribute to OSM thi s Saturday in Montréal
Hi, I'll be giving a tutorial on how to contribute to OpenStreetMap using Ubuntu (or GNU/Linux hehe) this Saturday October 3rd at 14:00. The presentation will be in French, but I'll welcome questions in English or German. This presentation will be in the context of Ubuntu Global Jam. More information on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuebecTeam/GlobalJam2009 Location: École de technologie supérieure (http://www.etsmtl.ca/) Room A-1300 1100, rue Notre-Dame Ouest Montréal (Québec) http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=45.49504&mlon=-73.56279&zoom=16&layers=B000FTF Topics: * Qu'est-ce qu'OpenStreetMap * L'état de la carte * Concepts généraux des données * Comment contribuer (potlach, josm, walking papers) * Comment modifier les données avec Josm Pierre-Luc Beaudoin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] google street view is live in canada
On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 13:20 -0400, William Rieck wrote: > http://www.cbc.ca/canada/windsor/story/2009/10/07/tech-internet-google-street-view-toronto.html Also discussed in Québec's medias: http://technaute.cyberpresse.ca/nouvelles/internet/200910/07/01-909267-google-street-view-a-montreal-et-quebec.php http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/surLeWeb/index.shtml#anchor126048 Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Canvec import in Montréal with ? nam es
Hi, I've been a little disconnected about the whole import process. Tonight I've seen CanVec streets appear in my neighboorhood with odd tags such as: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.509963468565353&lon=-73.561728000640869&zoom=18 name = "?" name2= "?" address:street:leftside="?" address:street:rightside="?" is_in="?" I believe such approach is unproductive as it takes quite a lot of work to clean up the tags afterwards or even to print a nice map without ? everywhere. Tags should not be set to FIXME or "?". They should not be set. Then they'll show up on the "no name" layer. Please someone fix that import script. :) Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Olympic Lane / Voie Olympique
On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 18:55 -0800, Adam Dunn wrote: > For those wondering what this is about, Vancouver is designating > certain traffic lanes for official Olympic vehicles (public transit > buses, athlete transportation, media transportation, etc). Other lanes > on the same street are to remain open for public use. See > [http://olympichostcity.vancouver.ca/gettingaround/driving/olympic-route-network.htm#1] for more details. These reserved lanes are similar to the reserved bus lanes we have in Québec. They haven't been tagged yet anywhere. If we look at Map Features, it appears that http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:psv is the right tagging to use, but this is for a whole way, not lanes. I don't think that adding a separate way just for the Olympic lane is a solution. You might want to take this discussion one level up. A quick check in UK, the tag watch reveals a total of 4 ways tagged with "bus_name=yes" or "buslane=yes". This needs to be discussed :) Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Meetup group
On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 13:59 -0500, Richard Weait wrote: > I suggest that this list, talk-ca is one ideal venue to advise > Canadian mappers of upcoming events. Also, for events in Québec, I started this 'Free Computing' agenda website for such events. http://www.agendadulibre.qc.ca The event in Sherbrooke was listed there. Btw, I would like to organize monthly events in Montreal starting from January. I'll announce the events here. Any suggestions on what works the best? Saturdays or week days evening? For winter, I was going for "inside" parties focusing on training and adding tags. Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Import mess in southern Québec
Hi! :) There are some places just south of Montréal that have duplicated data for every ways. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.3085&lon=-73.5243&zoom=12&layers=B000FTF That include Saint-Constant, Delson, down to Saint-Rémi (following the 209). The overpasses of the 15,.30 and 132 are particularly ugly right now. I had started a manual clean up but gave up, I am sure there is a better tool for that! Can someone have a look? Thanks, Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Import mess in southern Québec
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 22:18 -0500, Pierre-Luc Beaudoin wrote: > We should get in touch with them so we can exchange datasets such as > Municipalités régionales de comté, City boundaries, counties and > administrative regions (at least). They do have the data (1/20 000) in vector format available for sale for 100$ + conversion rates of 7$ on http://geoboutique.mrnf.gouv.qc.ca . Past that, it's only a question of licences. Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Import mess in southern Québec
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 21:37 -0500, Richard Weait wrote: > From a quick look at that page, it appears to be vectors at an > equivalent scale of 1:100. That may not offer us enough detail to > include in OSM. A shame. Most valuable datasets (not already available in Geobase or federal sets): * Municipalités régionales de comté (MRC) et territoires équivalents (Format Zip, 9 Mo) * Régions administratives (Format Zip, 657 Ko) But as stated in this news item from december, Sécurité publique du Québec uses OpenStreetMap as one of their data source. http://media.baliz-geospatial.com/fr/node/5038 We should get in touch with them so we can exchange datasets such as Municipalités régionales de comté, City boundaries, counties and administrative regions (at least). A volonteer? Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Import mess in southern Québec
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 00:37 -0500, Pierre-Luc Beaudoin wrote: > I had started a manual clean up but gave up, I am sure there is a > better tool for that! Can someone have a look? Alright, although it wasn't a witch hunt, the "guilty" man replied to me in private and fixed it :) Problem solved! Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Administrative boundaries Quebec
Hi Frank, Nice work, it we ever get our hands on real data, you'll be ready! On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 21:43 -0500, Frank Steggink wrote: > would like to propose to use admin_level=5 for the > regions. They have at least a semi-offical status. Others might be > able to elaborate on it more. Administrative regions are taught early in elementary school (I remember learning their respective numbers!). As for authority, I believe it is limited: regional elected members do meet (Conférence régionales des Élus) and I believe the current government gave regions more decision power regarding economic stimulus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regions_of_Quebec They have administrative value but also touristic/naming. > This leaves the urban agglomerates (Montreal > and Quebec only), for which admin_level=7 would be a natural choice, > although I'm not sure if they have any official status. There are 2 "communauté urbaines" in Québec, they include all cities that form an urban area. Each of them is directed by the elected members of the cities. They have powers in fields of landuse, shared services, public transit... Communauté urbaine de Québec: http://www.cmquebec.qc.ca Communauté métropolitaine de Montréal: http://www.cmm.qc.ca/ Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Administrative boundaries Quebec
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 21:43 -0500, Frank Steggink wrote: > So far I have only created relationships, including the municipality > name. I would like to share it with you, in order to gather feedback. > The result can be found here: [2]. That data is awesome :) we need to get our hands on it! Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Administrative boundaries Quebec
On Tue, 2010-01-19 at 10:52 -0500, Pierre-Luc Beaudoin wrote: > There are 2 "communauté urbaines" in Québec, they include all cities > that form an urban area. Please strike "urbaines" and replace with "métropolitaine". The word urban was replaced by metropolitan with the big reorganizations of municipalities in 2001 (mergers) and 2003 (partial un-mergers). Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Administrative boundaries of Québec
Hi, Let's start a thread to create an official organization of the administrative divisions in regards with the numbering in OSM [1]. Skipping levels higher than 4 (reserved for things greater than Québec). Here's my first shot based on all the info I could find on the Ministère des affaires minicipales, des régions de l'Occupation du territoire (gosh they like the long names!) [3]: Level 4: Provinces and territories Level 5: Région administratives / Administrative regions (Level 5.5: Here would fit L'Agence métropolitaine de transport, not worth mapping) Level 6: Communautés métropolitaines / Urbans or metropolitan communities Level 7: Municipalités régionales de compté (MRCs) (Level 7.5: Here would fit the Conférences régionales des élus of Montérégie (which is divided in 3), other CRÉ match their MRC boundaries, but I believe this information is not worth of mapping. Maps [4]). Level 8: Municipalités et villes / Municipalities, Cities Level 9: Arrondissements / Boroughs Level 10: Quartier / Quarter This list does not contain federal electoral districts, provincial electoral districts, municipal electoral districts, school boards, "Régions municipales de recensement" and "Agglomérations de recensement" [5] (what are theses?). Should we include all of them? Now if you look closely at the wiki table, my suggestion doesn't fit with the rest of Canada: Québec's MRCs would be one level down compared to Ontario. That's because we have 2 levels between the province and the cities. A real life example would be for the place I used to live in Québec City: Level 4: Québec Level 5: Capitale-Nationale (ref=03) Level 6: Communauté urbaine de Québec Level 7 is N/A (Québec is not part of an MRC, being a big city) Level 8: Québec Level 9: La cité (Map of the borough [2]) Level 10: Montcalm I believe it would make sens for all those names show up on a map as they are commonly used. Are there other opinions? Pierre-Luc NB: I believe there was a report from the OCDE stating that Montréal was being over administrated. I agree :) [1]: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary=administrative [2]: http://www.ville.quebec.qc.ca/apropos/portrait/arrondissements/lacite/plan.aspx [3] http://www.mamrot.gouv.qc.ca [4] http://www.mamrot.gouv.qc.ca/publications/cartotheque/CRE.pdf [5] http://www.mamrot.gouv.qc.ca/publications/cartotheque/atlas_AR_RMR.pdf signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Administrative boundaries of Québec
On Tue, 2010-01-19 at 19:10 +0100, stegg...@steggink.org wrote:
> Thank you for your insights. I was under the impression that the
> Communautés métropolitaines had less authority than MRCs, although I
> didn't look into it. If it weren't for these "comet"s (as this dataset
> is called), there wouldn't be a problem.
>
> However, when looking at the extent of the Communauté métropolitaine
> de Québec ([1]), it turns out that it spans multiple regions
> (Capitale-Nationale and Chaudière-Appalaches), so it doesn't fit
> nicely in the hierarchy. I think it would be better to treat them as a
> different entity, and admin_level=6 can be used for the MRCs. The
> Montreal "comet" contains municipalities of even more regions
> (Montreal, Laval, Montérégie, Laurentides, Lanaudière).
Hum, right but I wouldn't put the Comet before regions, I feel they have
less "authority" or cultural relevance. Let's not forget that all
theses structures are simply committees of elected members. I think the
best way to see this is that Comets are associated cities (and not MRCs
or regions). Therefore, why they span over many regions, they are just
a level over cities, but since they tend to cover more land than MRCs,
they deserve to be higher than MRCs. IMHO.
The subject came up with friends last December: why is the south shore
of Québec City a different region? it doesn't make sens hehe Just as the
fact that there is 19 boroughts in Montréal, while New York has 5. :)
> Regarding MRCs vs urban areas: I'll check in the data if that
> information can be disseminated. Because they and MRCs are mutually
> exclusive, they can have the same admin_level, but their designations
> should properly reflect the situation. Wikipedia has an overview of
> the agglomerations: [2]. I wonder if this list is really complete, and
> I don't think that all of them are MRC equivalents. In Quebec City
> there are also the enclaves of Wendake (First Nations) and
> Notre-Dame-des-Anges (covering only the Hôpital général de Québec).
> Anyways, I'll use the information from the geodata, and not base
> anything on Wikipedia.
What do you mean by Urban Areas? Are you talking about Québec (including
the attached cities of L'Ancienne-Lorette and
Saint-Augustin-de-Desmaures?). If so, yes, they are in all practical
matters MRCs. Same applies for cities that voted for unmerger in 2003.
> The borough map of Quebec is already outdated. Things got change on
> Nov 1st last year. La Cité and Limoilou have merged, and Laurentides
> has been divided over other boroughs. See [3]. Anyways, a minor
> detail :)
Sorry, I haven't kept up to date with Québec's municipal life. :) The
underlying quarter probably still exist.
> For the other types of boundaries (electorial districts,
> schoolboards), other values for the boundary keys should be used. [4]
> For electorial boundaries boundary=political is used
> ("boundary=electorial" would be better imho).
Good, that'll keep the levels sane!
Pierre-Luc
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Re: [Talk-ca] Administrative boundaries of Québec
On Fri, 2010-01-22 at 13:46 -0500, Bégin, Daniel wrote: > We are working on it for a while with the provinces. It should be made > available on GeoBase later this year. Good! Can you have a look at the other thread about how classifying these in OSM? The more opinions, the best. Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Administrative boundaries Quebec
On Fri, 2010-01-22 at 23:46 -0500, Frank Steggink wrote: > The last days I've flexed my Mapnik / osm2pgsql skills, and was able > to put a visualization of the tiles online. They can be found here: > [1]. The tiles themselves are generated as transparent PNGs, so they > didn't have to be integrated into the data. Note that I also adjusted > the zoomlevels, so they are visible earlier than they would be > normally. Levels 6 - 13 are available, but the last level is still > rendering as I write this. I haven't take care of any labeling yet, > although it is present in the DB. Cool! This allow us to assess that the resolution issues are really for cities with boundaries that match the islands they are on (such as Montréal, Laval, all municipalities of Orléans Island) or cities which ends on the Saint-Laurent river. It also help us to validate the city boundary data that has been entered in West Island (that's the cities on the south part of Montréal island). While some match perfectly, some other are a little off. I wonder what was the contributor's source. You have strong Mapnik / osm2pgsql skills! :) Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Administrative boundaries Quebec
On Sat, 2010-01-23 at 16:18 -0500, Nicolas Gignac wrote: > they will happy to know that some of their data has been used in OSM! > They might think of freeing other datasets... Note that this data is NOT part of OSM (yet)! it's only an overlay of the data over OSM. It hasn't been incorporated into the OSM database until all legal details have been cleared :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Autoroutes tag in Québec
On Tue, 2010-01-26 at 09:54 -0500, Nakor wrote: > My question here is whether we should keep tagging them as motorways > or is they should be changed to trunks. Concrete examples are parts of Highway 50, 55 and 73. They are highways: they have no traffic lights and have limited entrance and exits, but due to limited traffic or budget, there's one lane in each direction not separated. Funny fact: the overpasses have been build so that we can later separate the ways ;-) I believe we should stick with highway tag. So that they show up early in the zoom levels. Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Imported Canvec buildings with multiple nodes
Hi, Looking at this map [1], all the buildings that were recently uploaded seem to have multiple nodes on the same spot. Once again, I can only report this, I don't know the tool or how to (efficiently) fix it :) Thanks to the one who will be fixing this, Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Imported Canvec buildings with multiple nodes
On Tue, 2010-01-26 at 17:45 -0500, Frank Steggink wrote: > Are you referring to buildings near Montreal or near Quebec City. In > both cases buildings have been updated recently. Or are you talking > about buildings outside of Quebec? I observed that in Montréal so far on the maplint layer. See the link at the bottom. The building on Sherbrooke Street still has doubled nodes in the database. > If you would like to know who has uploaded them, you can select a > building, and view the history. When you enable the data layer in OSM, > you can even select items from there, review tags, and go to the > history. Yes I know, but I don't want that to turn into a witch hunt. > By the way, no link was included in your mail. Indeed I forgot. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.51077&lon=-73.57047&zoom=16&layers=B000TTF signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] IRC channel for Canada (English / french / dutch / german & any other language welcome)
On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 15:16 -0800, Sam Vekemans wrote: > I have set up an IRC chat room for Canada at #osm-ca On which server would that be? :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Saskatchewan disappeared?
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 11:22 -0500, Richard Weait wrote: > The "SK" at z4 and "Saskatchewan" at z5,6,7,8,etc. have disappeared. > Manitoba and Alberta appear to be fine. I took a quick look at the SK > border relations in the corners. Anybody notice when this happened or > have a suggestion as to the cause (and fix?) This is probably the result of vandalism. The SK and Saskatchewan are display because of a node a this point. Here's Manitoba's node: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/305700705 You probably can look for the deleted node in changes where the SK should be. Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] State of the Map 2010
On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 15:05 -0400, Richard Weait wrote: > It's hard to explain the benefit of attending to somebody who hasn't > attended a similar conference before. I attended last year's, I totally agree: it is very interesting. The best place to meet other people with the same passion for OpenStreetMap. I learnt quite a few tricks on how to improve the quality of my mapping and how people are doing the same around the world each with their limitations (ie some countries prohibit GPSes!). Unfortunately I won't attend this year, but everyone should! :) Pierre-Luc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
