Re: [Talk-ca] [OSM Sherbrooke discussion] Re: Geobase / Canvec import workshop in Sherbrooke?

2009-11-08 Thread Michel Gilbert
Hi all,

Okay, I wait for Canvec Import tool/script to organize the "Sherbrooke Couch
Mapping Party". I wait for Sam's script or Frank's to make the call. I'll be
willing to test the development if you need it.

thx,

Michel



2009/11/8 Sam Vekemans 

> Oh ya,
> I'll be there via skype/video chat & IRC :)
>
> Sam
>
> On 11/8/09, Daniel Bégin  wrote:
> > I’m in!
> >
> >
> >
> >   _
> >
> > From: Michel Gilbert [mailto:michc...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: November 7, 2009 19:49
> > To: osm-sherbrooke-discuss...@lists.coactivate.org; Talk-CA
> OpenStreetMap
> > Cc: Yves Moisan; jfd...@hotmail.com
> > Subject: Re: [OSM Sherbrooke discussion] Re: Geobase / Canvec import
> > workshop in Sherbrooke?
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Frank, Yves and all,
> >
> > I like the idea to have a mapping party in Sherbrooke that may attract
> > people of other regions. The mapping party, considering we are in
> November,
> > could concentrate on importing CanVec data for OSM. So, a Mapping Party
> with
> > no field work, only desktop work in front of a fireplace.  We would need
> a
> > place in Sherbrooke with good wireless connections, good coffees and a
> room
> > where we can talk and help each other. I think that "La Brulerie" on
> > Wellington meets all the requirements.
> >
> > In order to make the event possible we will need experts that could
> explain
> > importing tools (python, java, fme) and editing tools (josm, potlatch).
>  Any
> > volunteers ? Also, we need available data to import. My preference would
> be
> > to have data that include all the CanVec feature classes. At my
> knowledge, I
> > don't think such data can be generated rigth now. There are tools in
> > development to generate such data but are not ready for importation. We
> > (Daniel and I) do plan to work on a FME CanVec Import tool this winter
> but
> > the tool won't be available in short terms.
> >
> > If we have Canvec OSM file ready to import, I will participate to
> organize
> > the "Sherbrooke Couch Mapping Party". Here are some ideas for the agenda:
> >- Explain translation between CanVec features and OSM tags
> >- Training on Importing tools
> >- Explain OSM xml file
> >- Training on JOSM
> >- Importing session. Each participant take a region and import data.
> >
> > Let me know if anyone would like to participate at such event. We will
> keep
> > on discussing to put in place the missing pieces.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Michel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2009/11/6 Frank Steggink 
> >
> > Yves Moisan wrote:
> >
> > Hi Frank,
> >
> > Sorry for top posting, but I just want the ball rolling on the OSM
> > Sherbrooke list.  Michel was thinking of a Sherbrooke OSM meeting end
> > November.  I think the training you are proposing could be part of that
> > meeting, although it is probably a bit technical for the average mapper.
> > Michel, what do you think ?
> >
> > Yves
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I just had an idea, but because I don't know if it is a good one, I'll
> > share it with you. Would it be a good idea to organize a workshop to
>  import
> > Geobase and Canvec data?
> >
> > Today I was contacted by Oxalin, who has been editing in Granby  lately,
> and
> > he mentioned that he and a friend are willing to help with  the import as
> > well (at least for St-Jean-sur-Richelieu). Perhaps there  are also some
> > people from Montreal interested. There is a large  concentration of users
> in
> > Sherbrooke, and because it is somewhat in  between Montreal and Quebec, I
> > think it would be the most obvious  location.
> >
> > Regarding the workshop: I could explain how to import the roads, and
>  edit /
> > make connections with JOSM. We could also discuss the import of  Canvec
> and
> > NHN (hydro) data, because both Daniel and I are interested  in it. Maybe
> > Michel can explain how he imported the data through FME,  although I'm
> not
> > sure if this is relevant, because not everyone has  access to it.
> >
> > About NHN import: I think that users from the Montreal area should  also
> > pick up the gauntlet. There is a whole lot of data to be  imported. I
> also
> > have no idea about the current data quality, but I  expect this to be a
> huge
> > undertaking. (And what I've done so far pales  in comparison with that.)
> > Anyways, they'll also benefit from OSM :)
> >
> > If you think this would be a good idea, what would be the term to
>  organize
> > such an event? A couple of hours, together with a small  mapping party
> > (proposal: gathering and entering addresses) should be  enough. And of
> > course a dinner at the end of the day :) For me it  won't be a problem to
> > come from Quebec, but I would prefer doing this  before the winter really
> > sets in. The winter is too cold and snowy to  venture outdoors anyways,
> so
> > what would be better than to spend our  time importing data in our
> beloved
> > Open Street Map?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Frank
> >
> > Hi Yves,
> >
> > What kind of meeting are you considering? Is it a mapp

Re: [Talk-ca] [OSM Sherbrooke discussion] Re: Geobase / Canvec import workshop in Sherbrooke?

2009-11-08 Thread Sam Vekemans
Oh ya,
I'll be there via skype/video chat & IRC :)

Sam

On 11/8/09, Daniel Bégin  wrote:
> I’m in!
>
>
>
>   _
>
> From: Michel Gilbert [mailto:michc...@gmail.com]
> Sent: November 7, 2009 19:49
> To: osm-sherbrooke-discuss...@lists.coactivate.org; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
> Cc: Yves Moisan; jfd...@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [OSM Sherbrooke discussion] Re: Geobase / Canvec import
> workshop in Sherbrooke?
>
>
>
> Hi Frank, Yves and all,
>
> I like the idea to have a mapping party in Sherbrooke that may attract
> people of other regions. The mapping party, considering we are in November,
> could concentrate on importing CanVec data for OSM. So, a Mapping Party with
> no field work, only desktop work in front of a fireplace.  We would need a
> place in Sherbrooke with good wireless connections, good coffees and a room
> where we can talk and help each other. I think that "La Brulerie" on
> Wellington meets all the requirements.
>
> In order to make the event possible we will need experts that could explain
> importing tools (python, java, fme) and editing tools (josm, potlatch).  Any
> volunteers ? Also, we need available data to import. My preference would be
> to have data that include all the CanVec feature classes. At my knowledge, I
> don't think such data can be generated rigth now. There are tools in
> development to generate such data but are not ready for importation. We
> (Daniel and I) do plan to work on a FME CanVec Import tool this winter but
> the tool won't be available in short terms.
>
> If we have Canvec OSM file ready to import, I will participate to organize
> the "Sherbrooke Couch Mapping Party". Here are some ideas for the agenda:
>- Explain translation between CanVec features and OSM tags
>- Training on Importing tools
>- Explain OSM xml file
>- Training on JOSM
>- Importing session. Each participant take a region and import data.
>
> Let me know if anyone would like to participate at such event. We will keep
> on discussing to put in place the missing pieces.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michel
>
>
>
>
> 2009/11/6 Frank Steggink 
>
> Yves Moisan wrote:
>
> Hi Frank,
>
> Sorry for top posting, but I just want the ball rolling on the OSM
> Sherbrooke list.  Michel was thinking of a Sherbrooke OSM meeting end
> November.  I think the training you are proposing could be part of that
> meeting, although it is probably a bit technical for the average mapper.
> Michel, what do you think ?
>
> Yves
>
>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I just had an idea, but because I don't know if it is a good one, I'll
> share it with you. Would it be a good idea to organize a workshop to  import
> Geobase and Canvec data?
>
> Today I was contacted by Oxalin, who has been editing in Granby  lately, and
> he mentioned that he and a friend are willing to help with  the import as
> well (at least for St-Jean-sur-Richelieu). Perhaps there  are also some
> people from Montreal interested. There is a large  concentration of users in
> Sherbrooke, and because it is somewhat in  between Montreal and Quebec, I
> think it would be the most obvious  location.
>
> Regarding the workshop: I could explain how to import the roads, and  edit /
> make connections with JOSM. We could also discuss the import of  Canvec and
> NHN (hydro) data, because both Daniel and I are interested  in it. Maybe
> Michel can explain how he imported the data through FME,  although I'm not
> sure if this is relevant, because not everyone has  access to it.
>
> About NHN import: I think that users from the Montreal area should  also
> pick up the gauntlet. There is a whole lot of data to be  imported. I also
> have no idea about the current data quality, but I  expect this to be a huge
> undertaking. (And what I've done so far pales  in comparison with that.)
> Anyways, they'll also benefit from OSM :)
>
> If you think this would be a good idea, what would be the term to  organize
> such an event? A couple of hours, together with a small  mapping party
> (proposal: gathering and entering addresses) should be  enough. And of
> course a dinner at the end of the day :) For me it  won't be a problem to
> come from Quebec, but I would prefer doing this  before the winter really
> sets in. The winter is too cold and snowy to  venture outdoors anyways, so
> what would be better than to spend our  time importing data in our beloved
> Open Street Map?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Frank
>
> Hi Yves,
>
> What kind of meeting are you considering? Is it a mapping party, or just an
> event planned in an evening. In the latter case it won't be possible for me
> to attend, because of the distance. When the idea is to hold a mapping party
> (on a day in the weekend), I think it can be combined very well. For
> example, we could start an hour earlier in the morning, and I can explain a
> number of things about the import. The mapping party itself could start
> afterwards, so then people who do not care about the import, don't have to
> hear all of this stuff. I only mentioned "a co

Re: [Talk-ca] [OSM Sherbrooke discussion] Re: Geobase / Canvec import workshop in Sherbrooke?

2009-11-08 Thread Daniel Bégin
I’m in!

 

  _  

From: Michel Gilbert [mailto:michc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: November 7, 2009 19:49
To: osm-sherbrooke-discuss...@lists.coactivate.org; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Cc: Yves Moisan; jfd...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [OSM Sherbrooke discussion] Re: Geobase / Canvec import
workshop in Sherbrooke?

 

Hi Frank, Yves and all,

I like the idea to have a mapping party in Sherbrooke that may attract
people of other regions. The mapping party, considering we are in November,
could concentrate on importing CanVec data for OSM. So, a Mapping Party with
no field work, only desktop work in front of a fireplace.  We would need a
place in Sherbrooke with good wireless connections, good coffees and a room
where we can talk and help each other. I think that "La Brulerie" on
Wellington meets all the requirements.

In order to make the event possible we will need experts that could explain
importing tools (python, java, fme) and editing tools (josm, potlatch).  Any
volunteers ? Also, we need available data to import. My preference would be
to have data that include all the CanVec feature classes. At my knowledge, I
don't think such data can be generated rigth now. There are tools in
development to generate such data but are not ready for importation. We
(Daniel and I) do plan to work on a FME CanVec Import tool this winter but
the tool won't be available in short terms.

If we have Canvec OSM file ready to import, I will participate to organize
the "Sherbrooke Couch Mapping Party". Here are some ideas for the agenda:
   - Explain translation between CanVec features and OSM tags
   - Training on Importing tools
   - Explain OSM xml file
   - Training on JOSM
   - Importing session. Each participant take a region and import data.

Let me know if anyone would like to participate at such event. We will keep
on discussing to put in place the missing pieces.

Cheers,

Michel 




2009/11/6 Frank Steggink 

Yves Moisan wrote:

Hi Frank,

Sorry for top posting, but I just want the ball rolling on the OSM
Sherbrooke list.  Michel was thinking of a Sherbrooke OSM meeting end
November.  I think the training you are proposing could be part of that
meeting, although it is probably a bit technical for the average mapper.
Michel, what do you think ?

Yves

 

Hi guys,

I just had an idea, but because I don't know if it is a good one, I'll
share it with you. Would it be a good idea to organize a workshop to  import
Geobase and Canvec data?

Today I was contacted by Oxalin, who has been editing in Granby  lately, and
he mentioned that he and a friend are willing to help with  the import as
well (at least for St-Jean-sur-Richelieu). Perhaps there  are also some
people from Montreal interested. There is a large  concentration of users in
Sherbrooke, and because it is somewhat in  between Montreal and Quebec, I
think it would be the most obvious  location.

Regarding the workshop: I could explain how to import the roads, and  edit /
make connections with JOSM. We could also discuss the import of  Canvec and
NHN (hydro) data, because both Daniel and I are interested  in it. Maybe
Michel can explain how he imported the data through FME,  although I'm not
sure if this is relevant, because not everyone has  access to it.

About NHN import: I think that users from the Montreal area should  also
pick up the gauntlet. There is a whole lot of data to be  imported. I also
have no idea about the current data quality, but I  expect this to be a huge
undertaking. (And what I've done so far pales  in comparison with that.)
Anyways, they'll also benefit from OSM :)

If you think this would be a good idea, what would be the term to  organize
such an event? A couple of hours, together with a small  mapping party
(proposal: gathering and entering addresses) should be  enough. And of
course a dinner at the end of the day :) For me it  won't be a problem to
come from Quebec, but I would prefer doing this  before the winter really
sets in. The winter is too cold and snowy to  venture outdoors anyways, so
what would be better than to spend our  time importing data in our beloved
Open Street Map?

Cheers,

Frank

Hi Yves,

What kind of meeting are you considering? Is it a mapping party, or just an
event planned in an evening. In the latter case it won't be possible for me
to attend, because of the distance. When the idea is to hold a mapping party
(on a day in the weekend), I think it can be combined very well. For
example, we could start an hour earlier in the morning, and I can explain a
number of things about the import. The mapping party itself could start
afterwards, so then people who do not care about the import, don't have to
hear all of this stuff. I only mentioned "a couple of hours" because I was
not aware you were thinking about organizing something yourself, and someone
from farther away would not come if there was not a mapping party or
something else going on.

Right now the import of Geobase and Canvec data in Quebec is gaining
momentum, so

Re: [Talk-ca] [OSM Sherbrooke discussion] Re: Geobase / Canvec import workshop in Sherbrooke?

2009-11-07 Thread Sam Vekemans
Cool,
thanks for the clarification. And yuppee!
 You understood!
That would be great if you could maintain that 'portal' batch script :)

just say the programs i need to install and the buttons to press,
...so i can sit back & watch the batch do its 'magic'.


The technical editing (scripting) just needs to be done by 1 person
(at a time) but we all know that :)

fyi, im now working 4 night shifts a week (mainly because my part of
the conversion script is just about done) :) ... And i can start
planning for my trip Across Canada next year! :-)


actually it'll be in the next few days, but im giving it longer,
so i can 'cleanup' my own script. (sams_babel-to-english.exe')

cheers,
Sam

On 11/7/09, Frank Steggink  wrote:
> Hi Sam,
>
> Waiting for Nov. 21st isn't a problem. The idea I had to discuss the
> conversion (both Geobase and Canvec) is still fresh, and we haven't set
> a date yet, nor settled on the details. Since I have a bit of experience
> with the Geobase conversion (with the new method to copy over data), and
> especially with the cleaning up part, I want to share it. That way
> others might benefit from it, and help us getting it all done. It would
> also be a good occasion to discuss / demonstrate the Canvec import for
> our region (roughly NTS tiles 021E and 021L). Michel has already thought
> about this more.
>
> Regarding the conversion script: which script are you talking about?
> Earlier this week I mentioned I wanted to rewrite your batch files
> (which call Ian's shp-to-osm) to Python, so they can be used on other
> OS's, and hopefully they'll also be easier to maintain. That's all. I
> haven't given other aspects much thought, before my e-mail this morning.
> I won't be available as the maintainer for such a script for a number of
> reasons, so I'll only do the "port" of your batch files. Hopefully this
> is clear now.
>
> By the way, instead of working on the Python-version of your batch
> files, I imported some Geobase data. Just one sheet left, and I'll put
> it on hold for a while (although that remains to be seen ;) ).
>
> Frank
>
> Sam Vekemans wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Would you be able to hold out until nov 21st?
>>
>> At that time, myself will have the shp-to-osm java script out of beta,
>> and available to 'build-from' using python/java FME tools.
>>
>> Frank has offered to be the main person to maintain the conversion
>> script once im done with it.
>>
>> And Yes, i agree, the actual act of importing the .osm files (made by
>> the scripts) can be done with a 'couch mapping party'
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Sam
>>
>>
>> On 11/7/09, Michel Gilbert  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Frank, Yves and all,
>>>
>>> I like the idea to have a mapping party in Sherbrooke that may attract
>>> people of other regions. The mapping party, considering we are in
>>> November,
>>> could concentrate on importing CanVec data for OSM. So, a Mapping Party
>>> with
>>> no field work, only desktop work in front of a fireplace.  We would need
>>> a
>>> place in Sherbrooke with good wireless connections, good coffees and a
>>> room
>>> where we can talk and help each other. I think that "La Brulerie" on
>>> Wellington meets all the requirements.
>>>
>>> In order to make the event possible we will need experts that could
>>> explain
>>> importing tools (python, java, fme) and editing tools (josm, potlatch).
>>> Any
>>> volunteers ? Also, we need available data to import. My preference would
>>> be
>>> to have data that include all the CanVec feature classes. At my
>>> knowledge, I
>>> don't think such data can be generated rigth now. There are tools in
>>> development to generate such data but are not ready for importation. We
>>> (Daniel and I) do plan to work on a FME CanVec Import tool this winter
>>> but
>>> the tool won't be available in short terms.
>>>
>>> If we have Canvec OSM file ready to import, I will participate to
>>> organize
>>> the "Sherbrooke Couch Mapping Party". Here are some ideas for the agenda:
>>>- Explain translation between CanVec features and OSM tags
>>>- Training on Importing tools
>>>- Explain OSM xml file
>>>- Training on JOSM
>>>- Importing session. Each participant take a region and import data.
>>>
>>> Let me know if anyone would like to participate at such event. We will
>>> keep
>>> on discussing to put in place the missing pieces.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Michel
>>>
>


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Re: [Talk-ca] [OSM Sherbrooke discussion] Re: Geobase / Canvec import workshop in Sherbrooke?

2009-11-07 Thread Frank Steggink
Hi Sam,

Waiting for Nov. 21st isn't a problem. The idea I had to discuss the 
conversion (both Geobase and Canvec) is still fresh, and we haven't set 
a date yet, nor settled on the details. Since I have a bit of experience 
with the Geobase conversion (with the new method to copy over data), and 
especially with the cleaning up part, I want to share it. That way 
others might benefit from it, and help us getting it all done. It would 
also be a good occasion to discuss / demonstrate the Canvec import for 
our region (roughly NTS tiles 021E and 021L). Michel has already thought 
about this more.

Regarding the conversion script: which script are you talking about? 
Earlier this week I mentioned I wanted to rewrite your batch files 
(which call Ian's shp-to-osm) to Python, so they can be used on other 
OS's, and hopefully they'll also be easier to maintain. That's all. I 
haven't given other aspects much thought, before my e-mail this morning. 
I won't be available as the maintainer for such a script for a number of 
reasons, so I'll only do the "port" of your batch files. Hopefully this 
is clear now.

By the way, instead of working on the Python-version of your batch 
files, I imported some Geobase data. Just one sheet left, and I'll put 
it on hold for a while (although that remains to be seen ;) ).

Frank

Sam Vekemans wrote:
> Hi,
> Would you be able to hold out until nov 21st?
>
> At that time, myself will have the shp-to-osm java script out of beta,
> and available to 'build-from' using python/java FME tools.
>
> Frank has offered to be the main person to maintain the conversion
> script once im done with it.
>
> And Yes, i agree, the actual act of importing the .osm files (made by
> the scripts) can be done with a 'couch mapping party'
>
> Cheers,
> Sam
>
>
> On 11/7/09, Michel Gilbert  wrote:
>   
>> Hi Frank, Yves and all,
>>
>> I like the idea to have a mapping party in Sherbrooke that may attract
>> people of other regions. The mapping party, considering we are in November,
>> could concentrate on importing CanVec data for OSM. So, a Mapping Party with
>> no field work, only desktop work in front of a fireplace.  We would need a
>> place in Sherbrooke with good wireless connections, good coffees and a room
>> where we can talk and help each other. I think that "La Brulerie" on
>> Wellington meets all the requirements.
>>
>> In order to make the event possible we will need experts that could explain
>> importing tools (python, java, fme) and editing tools (josm, potlatch).  Any
>> volunteers ? Also, we need available data to import. My preference would be
>> to have data that include all the CanVec feature classes. At my knowledge, I
>> don't think such data can be generated rigth now. There are tools in
>> development to generate such data but are not ready for importation. We
>> (Daniel and I) do plan to work on a FME CanVec Import tool this winter but
>> the tool won't be available in short terms.
>>
>> If we have Canvec OSM file ready to import, I will participate to organize
>> the "Sherbrooke Couch Mapping Party". Here are some ideas for the agenda:
>>- Explain translation between CanVec features and OSM tags
>>- Training on Importing tools
>>- Explain OSM xml file
>>- Training on JOSM
>>- Importing session. Each participant take a region and import data.
>>
>> Let me know if anyone would like to participate at such event. We will keep
>> on discussing to put in place the missing pieces.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Michel
>> 

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Re: [Talk-ca] [OSM Sherbrooke discussion] Re: Geobase / Canvec import workshop in Sherbrooke?

2009-11-07 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi,
Would you be able to hold out until nov 21st?

At that time, myself will have the shp-to-osm java script out of beta,
and available to 'build-from' using python/java FME tools.

Frank has offered to be the main person to maintain the conversion
script once im done with it.

And Yes, i agree, the actual act of importing the .osm files (made by
the scripts) can be done with a 'couch mapping party'

Cheers,
Sam


On 11/7/09, Michel Gilbert  wrote:
> Hi Frank, Yves and all,
>
> I like the idea to have a mapping party in Sherbrooke that may attract
> people of other regions. The mapping party, considering we are in November,
> could concentrate on importing CanVec data for OSM. So, a Mapping Party with
> no field work, only desktop work in front of a fireplace.  We would need a
> place in Sherbrooke with good wireless connections, good coffees and a room
> where we can talk and help each other. I think that "La Brulerie" on
> Wellington meets all the requirements.
>
> In order to make the event possible we will need experts that could explain
> importing tools (python, java, fme) and editing tools (josm, potlatch).  Any
> volunteers ? Also, we need available data to import. My preference would be
> to have data that include all the CanVec feature classes. At my knowledge, I
> don't think such data can be generated rigth now. There are tools in
> development to generate such data but are not ready for importation. We
> (Daniel and I) do plan to work on a FME CanVec Import tool this winter but
> the tool won't be available in short terms.
>
> If we have Canvec OSM file ready to import, I will participate to organize
> the "Sherbrooke Couch Mapping Party". Here are some ideas for the agenda:
>- Explain translation between CanVec features and OSM tags
>- Training on Importing tools
>- Explain OSM xml file
>- Training on JOSM
>- Importing session. Each participant take a region and import data.
>
> Let me know if anyone would like to participate at such event. We will keep
> on discussing to put in place the missing pieces.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michel
>
>
>
> 2009/11/6 Frank Steggink 
>
>> Yves Moisan wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Frank,
>>>
>>> Sorry for top posting, but I just want the ball rolling on the OSM
>>> Sherbrooke list.  Michel was thinking of a Sherbrooke OSM meeting end
>>> November.  I think the training you are proposing could be part of that
>>> meeting, although it is probably a bit technical for the average mapper.
>>> Michel, what do you think ?
>>>
>>> Yves
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Hi guys,

 I just had an idea, but because I don't know if it is a good one, I'll
  share it with you. Would it be a good idea to organize a workshop to
  import Geobase and Canvec data?

 Today I was contacted by Oxalin, who has been editing in Granby  lately,
 and he mentioned that he and a friend are willing to help with  the
 import
 as well (at least for St-Jean-sur-Richelieu). Perhaps there  are also
 some
 people from Montreal interested. There is a large  concentration of
 users in
 Sherbrooke, and because it is somewhat in  between Montreal and Quebec,
 I
 think it would be the most obvious  location.

 Regarding the workshop: I could explain how to import the roads, and
  edit / make connections with JOSM. We could also discuss the import of
  Canvec and NHN (hydro) data, because both Daniel and I are interested
 in
 it. Maybe Michel can explain how he imported the data through FME,
 although
 I'm not sure if this is relevant, because not everyone has  access to
 it.

 About NHN import: I think that users from the Montreal area should  also
 pick up the gauntlet. There is a whole lot of data to be  imported. I
 also
 have no idea about the current data quality, but I  expect this to be a
 huge
 undertaking. (And what I've done so far pales  in comparison with that.)
 Anyways, they'll also benefit from OSM :)

 If you think this would be a good idea, what would be the term to
  organize such an event? A couple of hours, together with a small
 mapping
 party (proposal: gathering and entering addresses) should be  enough.
 And of
 course a dinner at the end of the day :) For me it  won't be a problem
 to
 come from Quebec, but I would prefer doing this  before the winter
 really
 sets in. The winter is too cold and snowy to  venture outdoors anyways,
 so
 what would be better than to spend our  time importing data in our
 beloved
 Open Street Map?

 Cheers,

 Frank

>>> Hi Yves,
>>
>> What kind of meeting are you considering? Is it a mapping party, or just
>> an
>> event planned in an evening. In the latter case it won't be possible for
>> me
>> to attend, because of the distance. When the idea is to hold a mapping
>> party
>> (on a day in the weekend), I think it can be combined very well. For
>> example, we

Re: [Talk-ca] [OSM Sherbrooke discussion] Re: Geobase / Canvec import workshop in Sherbrooke?

2009-11-07 Thread Michel Gilbert
Hi Frank, Yves and all,

I like the idea to have a mapping party in Sherbrooke that may attract
people of other regions. The mapping party, considering we are in November,
could concentrate on importing CanVec data for OSM. So, a Mapping Party with
no field work, only desktop work in front of a fireplace.  We would need a
place in Sherbrooke with good wireless connections, good coffees and a room
where we can talk and help each other. I think that "La Brulerie" on
Wellington meets all the requirements.

In order to make the event possible we will need experts that could explain
importing tools (python, java, fme) and editing tools (josm, potlatch).  Any
volunteers ? Also, we need available data to import. My preference would be
to have data that include all the CanVec feature classes. At my knowledge, I
don't think such data can be generated rigth now. There are tools in
development to generate such data but are not ready for importation. We
(Daniel and I) do plan to work on a FME CanVec Import tool this winter but
the tool won't be available in short terms.

If we have Canvec OSM file ready to import, I will participate to organize
the "Sherbrooke Couch Mapping Party". Here are some ideas for the agenda:
   - Explain translation between CanVec features and OSM tags
   - Training on Importing tools
   - Explain OSM xml file
   - Training on JOSM
   - Importing session. Each participant take a region and import data.

Let me know if anyone would like to participate at such event. We will keep
on discussing to put in place the missing pieces.

Cheers,

Michel



2009/11/6 Frank Steggink 

> Yves Moisan wrote:
>
>> Hi Frank,
>>
>> Sorry for top posting, but I just want the ball rolling on the OSM
>> Sherbrooke list.  Michel was thinking of a Sherbrooke OSM meeting end
>> November.  I think the training you are proposing could be part of that
>> meeting, although it is probably a bit technical for the average mapper.
>> Michel, what do you think ?
>>
>> Yves
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> I just had an idea, but because I don't know if it is a good one, I'll
>>>  share it with you. Would it be a good idea to organize a workshop to
>>>  import Geobase and Canvec data?
>>>
>>> Today I was contacted by Oxalin, who has been editing in Granby  lately,
>>> and he mentioned that he and a friend are willing to help with  the import
>>> as well (at least for St-Jean-sur-Richelieu). Perhaps there  are also some
>>> people from Montreal interested. There is a large  concentration of users in
>>> Sherbrooke, and because it is somewhat in  between Montreal and Quebec, I
>>> think it would be the most obvious  location.
>>>
>>> Regarding the workshop: I could explain how to import the roads, and
>>>  edit / make connections with JOSM. We could also discuss the import of
>>>  Canvec and NHN (hydro) data, because both Daniel and I are interested  in
>>> it. Maybe Michel can explain how he imported the data through FME,  although
>>> I'm not sure if this is relevant, because not everyone has  access to it.
>>>
>>> About NHN import: I think that users from the Montreal area should  also
>>> pick up the gauntlet. There is a whole lot of data to be  imported. I also
>>> have no idea about the current data quality, but I  expect this to be a huge
>>> undertaking. (And what I've done so far pales  in comparison with that.)
>>> Anyways, they'll also benefit from OSM :)
>>>
>>> If you think this would be a good idea, what would be the term to
>>>  organize such an event? A couple of hours, together with a small  mapping
>>> party (proposal: gathering and entering addresses) should be  enough. And of
>>> course a dinner at the end of the day :) For me it  won't be a problem to
>>> come from Quebec, but I would prefer doing this  before the winter really
>>> sets in. The winter is too cold and snowy to  venture outdoors anyways, so
>>> what would be better than to spend our  time importing data in our beloved
>>> Open Street Map?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Frank
>>>
>> Hi Yves,
>
> What kind of meeting are you considering? Is it a mapping party, or just an
> event planned in an evening. In the latter case it won't be possible for me
> to attend, because of the distance. When the idea is to hold a mapping party
> (on a day in the weekend), I think it can be combined very well. For
> example, we could start an hour earlier in the morning, and I can explain a
> number of things about the import. The mapping party itself could start
> afterwards, so then people who do not care about the import, don't have to
> hear all of this stuff. I only mentioned "a couple of hours" because I was
> not aware you were thinking about organizing something yourself, and someone
> from farther away would not come if there was not a mapping party or
> something else going on.
>
> Right now the import of Geobase and Canvec data in Quebec is gaining
> momentum, so this is an excellent occasion to get more people jumping in :)
> Daniel already mentioned that he and