Re: [Talk-ca] Ïle d'Orléan
It is good to point out how OpenCycleMap (OCM) displays both infrastructure and routes (lcn, rcn, ncn, icn). Seeing how infrastructure is displayed (e.g. cycleway=lane shows blue casing on a highway) and how a route relation turns into colors on the map are subtle, different. Just as slightly different as are how OSM tags infrastructure (highway=cycleway, cycleway=lane, bicycle=yes...) and how we build route relations to stitch them into routes. OSM "lets us" have mismatches here, but it is much nicer when it is put together as it should be put together. Tag infrastructure, tag routes, they are different things in the map and they should be put together sensibly. I believe creating four route=bicycle relations tagged network=lcn and name=* (a ref tag will get you up to three alphanumerics as the value, displayed as a shield at wider zooms...) is an excellent next step here. If they are loops (I don't know them) then having them look like a butterfly or whatever is neat. Real loops in real life? Look, they are really there in our map. Geography is so pretty. This layer (OCM, Cycle Map) can refresh tiles in a day or two, a week or two or a month or two, rendering is not predictable and is at various zoom levels at different schedules. This makes it interesting. Stitch 'em in. Have fun. Build a pretty network, especially if real life has one. SteveA > On Jul 8, 2019, at 5:31 PM, Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca > wrote: > > That’s fine. Better would be to have a cycle route relation of type Local and > identify the four official loops advertised locally with they given name. > That would be four relations to create. I might get to do it one day. But > they are just documented routes with no infrastructure to speak of > > Martin Chalifoux > E martin.chalif...@icloud.com > C 514-233-9701 > > On Jul 8, 2019, at 20:27, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Ïle d'Orléan
That’s fine. Better would be to have a cycle route relation of type Local and identify the four official loops advertised locally with they given name. That would be four relations to create. I might get to do it one day. But they are just documented routes with no infrastructure to speak of Martin Chalifoux E martin.chalif...@icloud.com C 514-233-9701 > On Jul 8, 2019, at 20:27, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > > The routes that are blue on Cycle Map on ïle d'Orléans are not mapped as bike > paths, but rather highway=secondary + bicycle=designated e.g. > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/118535448 and a route=bicycle "lcn" or > local cycle network https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2393203 > >> On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 at 10:48, Martin Chalifoux >> wrote: >> Je viens juste de faire le tour de l’île. Il y a zéro piste cyclable. On >> peut y créer une route mais svp pas mettre de lane ou track. Il y en a pas >> du tout. >> >> Martin Chalifoux >> E martin.chalif...@icloud.com >> C 514-233-9701 >> >>> On Jul 8, 2019, at 09:25, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: >>> >>> I don't know if that is the case here, but I've also seen objects >>> straight-up missing from the cycle map layer. I think its import of new and >>> changed ways is sometimes buggy. >>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/43.64972/-79.41785&layers=C is an >>> example I'm familiar with, >>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/43.64580/-79.41198&layers=C another >>> around the corner. In the latter case it's been 4 months since the missing >>> paths were edited. >>> On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 at 09:12, Pierre Boucher wrote: Bonjour à tous, Comment ce fait-il que l'ïle d'Orléans n'apparaît pas lorsqu'on affiche les pistes cyclables? https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=11/46.9266/-71.0239&layers=C -- Pierre Boucher Ste-Thérèse (Québec) Canada ...Pensez à l'environnement avant d'imprimer ce courriel !. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >>> ___ >>> Talk-ca mailing list >>> Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Ïle d'Orléan
The routes that are blue on Cycle Map on ïle d'Orléans are not mapped as bike paths, but rather highway=secondary + bicycle=designated e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/118535448 and a route=bicycle "lcn" or local cycle network https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2393203 On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 at 10:48, Martin Chalifoux wrote: > Je viens juste de faire le tour de l’île. Il y a zéro piste cyclable. On > peut y créer une route mais svp pas mettre de lane ou track. Il y en a pas > du tout. > > Martin Chalifoux > *E* martin.chalif...@icloud.com > *C* 514-233-9701 > > On Jul 8, 2019, at 09:25, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > > I don't know if that is the case here, but I've also seen objects > straight-up missing from the cycle map layer. I think its import of new and > changed ways is sometimes buggy. > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/43.64972/-79.41785&layers=C is an > example I'm familiar with, > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/43.64580/-79.41198&layers=C another > around the corner. In the latter case it's been 4 months since the missing > paths were edited. > > On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 at 09:12, Pierre Boucher wrote: > >> Bonjour à tous, >> >> Comment ce fait-il que l'ïle d'Orléans n'apparaît pas lorsqu'on affiche >> les pistes cyclables? >> >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=11/46.9266/-71.0239&layers=C >> -- >> >> *Pierre Boucher* >> Ste-Thérèse (Québec) Canada >> -- >> >> *...Pensez à l'environnement avant d'imprimer ce courriel !.* >> ___ >> Talk-ca mailing list >> Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >> > ___ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > > ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Ïle d'Orléan
Je viens juste de faire le tour de l’île. Il y a zéro piste cyclable. On peut y créer une route mais svp pas mettre de lane ou track. Il y en a pas du tout. Martin Chalifoux E martin.chalif...@icloud.com C 514-233-9701 > On Jul 8, 2019, at 09:25, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > > I don't know if that is the case here, but I've also seen objects straight-up > missing from the cycle map layer. I think its import of new and changed ways > is sometimes buggy. > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/43.64972/-79.41785&layers=C is an > example I'm familiar with, > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/43.64580/-79.41198&layers=C another > around the corner. In the latter case it's been 4 months since the missing > paths were edited. > >> On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 at 09:12, Pierre Boucher wrote: >> Bonjour à tous, >> >> Comment ce fait-il que l'ïle d'Orléans n'apparaît pas lorsqu'on affiche les >> pistes cyclables? >> >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=11/46.9266/-71.0239&layers=C >> -- >> Pierre Boucher >> Ste-Thérèse (Québec) Canada >> >> ...Pensez à l'environnement avant d'imprimer ce courriel !. >> >> ___ >> Talk-ca mailing list >> Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > ___ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Ïle d'Orléan
Bonjour Pierre J'ai aussi constaté l'absence des Iles de tout l'Estuaire du Saint-Laurent à partir du Lac Saint-Pierre. Il y a 3 relations qui décrivent les 3 sections de l'Estuaire du Fleuve Saint-Laurent. Estuaire fluvial Estuaire Moyen https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2427871 J'ai réparé et trié les membresEstuaire Maritime YanikB qui est un amateur de cartes Wiikipedia (par exemple https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estuaire_du_Saint-Laurent), a créé un nouvelle relation il y a 18 jours qui couvre la même zone que les 3 relations. https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/9706230 Pierre Le lundi 8 juillet 2019 09 h 13 min 09 s UTC−4, Pierre Boucher a écrit : Bonjour à tous, Comment ce fait-il que l'ïle d'Orléans n'apparaît pas lorsqu'on affiche les pistes cyclables? https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=11/46.9266/-71.0239&layers=C -- Pierre Boucher Ste-Thérèse (Québec) Canada ...Pensez à l'environnement avant d'imprimer ce courriel !. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Ïle d'Orléan
I don't know if that is the case here, but I've also seen objects straight-up missing from the cycle map layer. I think its import of new and changed ways is sometimes buggy. https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/43.64972/-79.41785&layers=C is an example I'm familiar with, https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/43.64580/-79.41198&layers=C another around the corner. In the latter case it's been 4 months since the missing paths were edited. On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 at 09:12, Pierre Boucher wrote: > Bonjour à tous, > > Comment ce fait-il que l'ïle d'Orléans n'apparaît pas lorsqu'on affiche > les pistes cyclables? > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=11/46.9266/-71.0239&layers=C > -- > > *Pierre Boucher* > Ste-Thérèse (Québec) Canada > -- > > *...Pensez à l'environnement avant d'imprimer ce courriel !.* > ___ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Ïle d'Orléan
Il se peut il y a eu une correction dans le dernier mois? Le cycle map est une tierce partie qui le maintiens et est mise à jour ~au 30 jours. On Mon., Jul. 8, 2019, 9:14 a.m. Pierre Boucher, wrote: > Bonjour à tous, > > Comment ce fait-il que l'ïle d'Orléans n'apparaît pas lorsqu'on affiche > les pistes cyclables? > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=11/46.9266/-71.0239&layers=C > -- > > *Pierre Boucher* > Ste-Thérèse (Québec) Canada > -- > > *...Pensez à l'environnement avant d'imprimer ce courriel !.* > ___ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Ïle d'Orléan
Bonjour à tous, Comment ce fait-il que l'ïle d'Orléans n'apparaît pas lorsqu'on affiche les pistes cyclables? https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=11/46.9266/-71.0239&layers=C -- */Pierre Boucher/* Ste-Thérèse (Québec) Canada *...Pensez à l'environnement avant d'imprimer ce courriel !.* ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
