Re: [Talk-ca] Disconnected addresses

[Pierre Béland]

Stewart C. Russell> * Looks like some heuristics got to Mackinac Crescent and 
made it the
> faux-Scottish MacKinac Crescent. Even in Scotland we don't bother trying
> to normalize Mac/Mc/mac /M' variants.

La variante amérindienne : Il y a aussi Mekinac. Au Québec, 
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Importation - Canvec, les chemins Interpolation sont souvent coupés à la 
bordure des tuiles Canvec. Il faut corriger en fusionnant les deux segments. Un 
petit truc pour trouver ces segments, le chemin n'a qu'un noeud enfant. Voici 
le filtre JOSM pour les repérer :child(type:way & "addr:interpolation":) AND 
(nth:0 OR nth:-0) AND -"addr:housenumber":
 
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Re: [Talk-ca] Disconnected addresses

[Stewart C. Russell]

On 2017-10-31 06:37 PM, James wrote:
> not sure what that format is, but it's completely useless, need so much
> processing, might as well just fix them via OSMI

what, the Shapefile that Martin linked to?

Anyway, I took a look at some of the problems in my neighbourhood. A lot
date back to Canvec road import from 2010 or so. Some are clearly
mis-keyings, others a bit more subtle:

* Eglinton Avenue should be Eglinton Avenue East

* similarly, there are a few Lawrence Ave Es that should be Lawrence Ave
East

* Looks like some heuristics got to Mackinac Crescent and made it the
faux-Scottish MacKinac Crescent. Even in Scotland we don't bother trying
to normalize Mac/Mc/mac /M' variants.

* a couple of 'St Clair' and 'St Quentin's, even though it looks very
unwieldy in full form: Saint Clair Avenue East

I'm fixing what I can, but it's dull work

cheers,
 Stewart

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Re: [Talk-ca] Disconnected addresses

[Pierre Béland]

Martin, utiliser MapRoulette pour une telle opération ne me semble pas 
approprié à moins de vouloir faire un simple Revert pour revenir à la situation 
précédente. Qui dit que les contributeurs connaitront les règles de jumelage 
Addresse - Nom de rue, les adresses individuelles ou les interpolations et les 
règles propres à chaque province pour l'écriture des noms?  Aussi, on retrouve 
souvent pour une même rue plusieurs éléments à corriger. Il vaut mieux les 
traiter tous simultanément. Dans JOSM, le style «Coloured Streets» permet de 
localiser les problèmes et de vérifier si les corrections sont correctes. 
Quelque 24h plus tard, une fois OSMI mis à jour, il est possible de réviser la 
zone pour s'assurer que tout est bien corrigé.
C'est la procédure que j'ai suivi pour le Québec en 2016 la requête Overpass 
ci-dessous pour extraire uniquement les données d'adresses et de rues. De cette 
façon, à l'aide du style «Coloured Streets», on visualise mieux les objets à 
éditer.
voir http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/sIh
 
Pierre 
 

Le mardi 31 octobre 2017 18:40:29 HAE, Martijn van Exel  a 
écrit :  
 
 This comes directly out of OSMI, it may be useful to create a MapRoulette 
challenge or similar if we wanted to go that route.
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 4:37 PM, James  wrote:

not sure what that format is, but it's completely useless, need so much 
processing, might as well just fix them via OSMI

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 6:27 PM, Matthew Darwin  wrote:

  
No ideas from me... I was doing the Ottawa area manually.  It takes a while 
because you need to review the history of both the street and the address to 
see which one was most recently changed so you know which one to correct... 
plus add comments on the change that caused it to be out of alignment so people 
are aware.  (I didn't comment on every change... once I found a pattern, I 
stopped commenting).
 
There are still a few in Ottawa that don't match up.  Either because the 
address and the street are far apart and it is a false-positive error, or the 
capitalization on the street names don't match... I'm waiting (for 3 months 
now) for the City of Ottawa to get back to me on what is the correct name and 
then I will fix either the street or the address accordingly.   So long way of 
saying, anything within the bounds of the City of Ottawa, I will fix.
 
 On 2017-10-31 06:11 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
 
 Hi all, 
  We started fixing this in the Ottawa region, but the problem is bigger than 
just around the ways that our team updated. I updated the ticket with a dump 
that we got from OSMI. We are looking at how to best approach this pretty 
significant fix up task. I will keep you updated. In the mean time, if you have 
any ideas for how to approach this, let me know. Thanks! Martijn 
  
 On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:05 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote: 
  Hi all,  
  Matthew Darwin pointed out on Github that some street name updates by the 
Telenav team lead to 'orphaned' address nodes. The ticket is here: 
https://github.com/Telen avMapping/mapping-projects/ issues/34  
  This is just to let you know that we are aware and planning to fix soonest. 
  Thanks and my apologies. Let us know if you encountered this anywhere else. 
  Martijn   
  
  
  
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Re: [Talk-ca] Disconnected addresses

[Martijn van Exel]

This comes directly out of OSMI, it may be useful to create a MapRoulette
challenge or similar if we wanted to go that route.

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 4:37 PM, James  wrote:

> not sure what that format is, but it's completely useless, need so much
> processing, might as well just fix them via OSMI
>
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 6:27 PM, Matthew Darwin 
> wrote:
>
>> No ideas from me... I was doing the Ottawa area manually.  It takes a
>> while because you need to review the history of both the street and the
>> address to see which one was most recently changed so you know which one to
>> correct... plus add comments on the change that caused it to be out of
>> alignment so people are aware.  (I didn't comment on every change... once I
>> found a pattern, I stopped commenting).
>>
>> There are still a few in Ottawa that don't match up.  Either because the
>> address and the street are far apart and it is a false-positive error, or
>> the capitalization on the street names don't match... I'm waiting (for 3
>> months now) for the City of Ottawa to get back to me on what is the correct
>> name and then I will fix either the street or the address accordingly.   So
>> long way of saying, anything within the bounds of the City of Ottawa, I
>> will fix.
>> On 2017-10-31 06:11 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We started fixing this in the Ottawa region, but the problem is bigger
>> than just around the ways that our team updated. I updated the ticket with
>> a dump that we got from OSMI. We are looking at how to best approach this
>> pretty significant fix up task. I will keep you updated. In the mean time,
>> if you have any ideas for how to approach this, let me know. Thanks!
>> Martijn
>>
>> On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:05 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Matthew Darwin pointed out on Github that some street name updates by the
>> Telenav team lead to 'orphaned' address nodes. The ticket is here:
>> https://github.com/TelenavMapping/mapping-projects/issues/34
>>
>> This is just to let you know that we are aware and planning to fix
>> soonest.
>>
>> Thanks and my apologies. Let us know if you encountered this anywhere
>> else.
>>
>> Martijn
>>
>>
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[James]

not sure what that format is, but it's completely useless, need so much
processing, might as well just fix them via OSMI

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 6:27 PM, Matthew Darwin  wrote:

> No ideas from me... I was doing the Ottawa area manually.  It takes a
> while because you need to review the history of both the street and the
> address to see which one was most recently changed so you know which one to
> correct... plus add comments on the change that caused it to be out of
> alignment so people are aware.  (I didn't comment on every change... once I
> found a pattern, I stopped commenting).
>
> There are still a few in Ottawa that don't match up.  Either because the
> address and the street are far apart and it is a false-positive error, or
> the capitalization on the street names don't match... I'm waiting (for 3
> months now) for the City of Ottawa to get back to me on what is the correct
> name and then I will fix either the street or the address accordingly.   So
> long way of saying, anything within the bounds of the City of Ottawa, I
> will fix.
> On 2017-10-31 06:11 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> We started fixing this in the Ottawa region, but the problem is bigger
> than just around the ways that our team updated. I updated the ticket with
> a dump that we got from OSMI. We are looking at how to best approach this
> pretty significant fix up task. I will keep you updated. In the mean time,
> if you have any ideas for how to approach this, let me know. Thanks!
> Martijn
>
> On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:05 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Matthew Darwin pointed out on Github that some street name updates by the
> Telenav team lead to 'orphaned' address nodes. The ticket is here:
> https://github.com/TelenavMapping/mapping-projects/issues/34
>
> This is just to let you know that we are aware and planning to fix soonest.
>
> Thanks and my apologies. Let us know if you encountered this anywhere else.
>
> Martijn
>
>
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No ideas from me... I was doing the Ottawa area manually.  It takes a 
while because you need to review the history of both the street and 
the address to see which one was most recently changed so you know 
which one to correct... plus add comments on the change that caused it 
to be out of alignment so people are aware. (I didn't comment on every 
change... once I found a pattern, I stopped commenting).


There are still a few in Ottawa that don't match up.  Either because 
the address and the street are far apart and it is a false-positive 
error, or the capitalization on the street names don't match... I'm 
waiting (for 3 months now) for the City of Ottawa to get back to me on 
what is the correct name and then I will fix either the street or the 
address accordingly.   So long way of saying, anything within the 
bounds of the City of Ottawa, I will fix.


On 2017-10-31 06:11 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:

Hi all,

We started fixing this in the Ottawa region, but the problem is 
bigger than just around the ways that our team updated. I updated 
the ticket with a dump that we got from OSMI. We are looking at how 
to best approach this pretty significant fix up task. I will keep 
you updated. In the mean time, if you have any ideas for how to 
approach this, let me know. Thanks!

Martijn

On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:05 PM, Martijn van Exel > wrote:


Hi all,

Matthew Darwin pointed out on Github that some street name updates 
by the Telenav team lead to 'orphaned' address nodes. The ticket is 
here: https://github.com/TelenavMapping/mapping-projects/issues/34


This is just to let you know that we are aware and planning to fix 
soonest.


Thanks and my apologies. Let us know if you encountered this 
anywhere else.


Martijn




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Re: [Talk-ca] Disconnected addresses

[Martijn van Exel]

Hi all,

We started fixing this in the Ottawa region, but the problem is bigger than 
just around the ways that our team updated. I updated the ticket with a dump 
that we got from OSMI. We are looking at how to best approach this pretty 
significant fix up task. I will keep you updated. In the mean time, if you have 
any ideas for how to approach this, let me know. Thanks!
Martijn

> On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:05 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> Matthew Darwin pointed out on Github that some street name updates by the 
> Telenav team lead to 'orphaned' address nodes. The ticket is here: 
> https://github.com/TelenavMapping/mapping-projects/issues/34 
>  
> 
> This is just to let you know that we are aware and planning to fix soonest.
> 
> Thanks and my apologies. Let us know if you encountered this anywhere else.
> 
> Martijn

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[Talk-ca] Disconnected addresses

[Martijn van Exel]

Hi all,

Matthew Darwin pointed out on Github that some street name updates by the
Telenav team lead to 'orphaned' address nodes. The ticket is here:
https://github.com/TelenavMapping/mapping-projects/issues/34

This is just to let you know that we are aware and planning to fix soonest.

Thanks and my apologies. Let us know if you encountered this anywhere else.

Martijn
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